Sheffield v Lakeside SGBCL 26/07/2018 @ 19.30

[Hel'n'Back]

Agree, last weeks meeting was far more entertaining than last night but then the weather was a spoiler last night.

[RobHowe]

On 7/27/2018 at 1:34 PM, Whisperer said:

Have you completely missed the posts concerning the lack of fixtures for the rest of the league? Some of them have or will be going 4 weeks without a home meeting. At the height of the season when the best opportunity should be there to attract new customers. Don't worry, you're alright Jack carry on with the positive attitude then you can race Scunny and Leicester every other week.

Your original point was that it had been a stop start season at Sheffield. I don’t see how that has been the case given the very few Thursdays that we’ve not had a meeting on. Are you still saying that it has been?

As for other teams, I’m aware of that some them have had periods without a home meeting, but ultimately we will all have the same number of league meetings and we will all have a similar number of Shield and KOC meetings. So it’s not as if some teams will get considerably more meetings than others. 

Granted it’s not ideal to have periods without one, but ultimately every team will have a very similar number of home meetings. 

[RobHowe]

On 7/27/2018 at 1:12 PM, Moranboys said:

only because we have been fortunate not to have too many rain offs.but season over by  23rd august not taking in the c.r.f is not acceptable.

Why is it not acceptable?

Would you,rather the club ran a series of potentially loss-making meetings at the end of the season just to keep everyone happy?

Obviously I’d much rather see speedway run as far into September as possible, but you can only work with the situation that you’ve got.

And as I’ve mentioned already had it not been for the incredible weather we’ve had over the past few months (six rained off meetings last year against just one this year) - not to mention progressing further in the Shield and the KOC - we WOULD be riding in September. In fact we could well be struggling for free Thursdays, meaning we’d be looking to ride on other days of the week and creating issues with rider availablilty, etc. No doubt people would have started complaining about that too. 

[RobHowe]

On 7/27/2018 at 1:18 PM, Moranboys said:

why would it be "boring" winning the league title again.so you found winning the pairs meeting again for the second year "boring".myself and my son were certainly not stood at the oak tree shouting for the other teams because we thought that it would be boring for the tigers to win it again.the best thing for you then would be for you to be a neutral and not support one particular team.

I didn’t say that. I said winning everything every year would be boring.

What would be the point in turning up if you knew you were going to win everything?

I’d much rather watch Sheffield win by 2 points with a last heat decider than be 20 points up by heat 12 and watch the final few meaningless races.

Give me close, entertaining and competitive meetings every week, even if that means losing the odd one. 

[Whisperer]

1 minute ago, RobHowe said:

Your original point was that it had been a stop start season at Sheffield. I don’t see how that has been the case given the very few Thursdays that we’ve not had a meeting on. Are you still saying that it has been?

As for other teams, I’m aware of that some them have had periods without a home meeting, but ultimately we will all have the same number of league meetings and we will all have a similar number of Shield and KOC meetings. So it’s not as if some teams will get considerably more meetings than others. 

Granted it’s not ideal to have periods without one, but ultimately every team will have a very similar number of home meetings. 

Yes that's a fair point and I did feel like I was having a pop at you instead of the current situation, apologies. I am frustrated that yet again clubs are being run up to the cut off to get fixtures in and find it unacceptable that some clubs are declining fixtures in the full knowledge that denying the request contributes to a lack home fixtures, continuity and to get those crucial matches in that could see the requesting club make the play offs. Historically the BSPA have forced some clubs to accept re-arranged fixtures to complete the league programme, this year the same people have forced clubs to cancel fixtures that had been accepted and agreed leaving even bigger gaps and a complete disregard for; fans who had made plans, rider movements and progress with the competitions.

Whilst there may have been some justification in looking at fixtures it's been handled appallingly, significantly benefits 1 club and has been made by a committee made up of your Promoter, Leicester's Promoter (who works for your Promoter) and their best mate the Vice Chairman. That more than anything is a good enough reason to handle the matter sensitively and in the now famous "transparent and open way" promised.

[Moranboys]

2 hours ago, RobHowe said:

I didn’t say that. I said winning everything every year would be boring.

What would be the point in turning up if you knew you were going to win everything?

I’d much rather watch Sheffield win by 2 points with a last heat decider than be 20 points up by heat 12 and watch the final few meaningless races.

Give me close, entertaining and competitive meetings every week, even if that means losing the odd one. 

there is no way that ever happens in speedway anyway.no club ever wins everything year in year out and it is very special when your club is doing well following numerous years without winning much.the problem is, if your team isn't winning anything then certain supporters enthusiasm starts to wain.i never mentioned that i wanted to see sheffield hammer teams week in week out, yes ,that would truly be not a good thing and i am all for close meetings with close racing, but given the nature of results, even losing a few meetings especially at home, means that it makes it v.difficult to even make the play offs.last season was fantastic if you were a sheffield supporter both home and away but we were never going to repeat that feat this season.

[Moranboys]

2 hours ago, RobHowe said:

Why is it not acceptable?

Would you,rather the club ran a series of potentially loss-making meetings at the end of the season just to keep everyone happy?

Obviously I’d much rather see speedway run as far into September as possible, but you can only work with the situation that you’ve got.

And as I’ve mentioned already had it not been for the incredible weather we’ve had over the past few months (six rained off meetings last year against just one this year) - not to mention progressing further in the Shield and the KOC - we WOULD be riding in September. In fact we could well be struggling for free Thursdays, meaning we’d be looking to ride on other days of the week and creating issues with rider availablilty, etc. No doubt people would have started complaining about that too. 

no, i wouldn't like to see the club run a series of potentially loss-making meetings and the fixture situation is not the clubs fault but the sooner the people that run the sport realise that they are killing it ,the better.as i mentioned before, continuity is what is needed, no as you said not particularly sheffield but most clubs, look at workington as an example.speedway is a sport where it has got to make the most of the weather as it is very weather orientated and to have long breaks for a lot of clubs given the weather has to be financial suicide even though as you pointed out they will still have the same amount of fixtures.when you also are trying your utmost to introduce new people to the sport and they take to it the first time they attend it is hard to explain that it might be another three weeks before they see another fixture and in that period their enthusiasm could well wane.this fixture situation needs to be resolved one way or another  or i do genuinely fear for the promoters.