Grand Prix Calendar and Venues 2019

[Humphrey Appleby]

16 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said:

(Speedway of Nations sounds like an 'open' meeting - just call in the Speedway World Cup which is, after all, what it is but with a different format).

Except it isn't the Speedway World Cup - it's a best pairs competition with an occasional Under 21 rider.

Just call it the Speedway World Pairs (or Speedway World Triples if you like), then you won't contravene the trade description act. 

Edited September 6, 2018 by Humphrey Appleby

[PHILIPRISING]

14 hours ago, RPNY said:

Having just watched Belle Vue v Somerset we live in hope that there is a GP in Manchester next year.

DON'T think it will happen much as I would like it to. BSI are fearful of doing anything that would diminish the crowd at Cardiff, which is their jewel in the crown. The fact of the matter is that none of us actually know whether it would or it wouldn't. The two events would be very different, no one is going to spend the day hanging around Kirky Lane, the weather could be a factor, the stadium doesn't have the facilities of the Principality, etc, etc.

But what we saw last night underlines what a fantastic race track they have at the NSS and that alone should attract a decent crowd. But would fans go to one or the other or both? That is the 64,000 dollar question that we cannot answer and I don't see BSI taking a risk, at least not in 2019.

Cardiff attracts many, many fans who do not go to any other speedway event in the UK during the course of a season. 

[BarracudaAce]

On 9/1/2018 at 7:49 PM, STEPHEN 333 said:

I was in Wroclaw just a few weeks ago for the Wroclaw v Torun meeting, fantastic venue, fantastic city, and yes fantastic track, just as good as the NSS in Manchester, can not wait for a date to be announced, that's another weekend in Poland to sort out , already booked the Warsaw GP.

Was at the same match and couldn't agree more!!

Having visited a number of Polish cities over the last eleven years or so, I commented to a friend that Wroclaw was fast becoming my favourite Polish city and Polish speedway venue.

[RPNY]

40 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said:

DON'T think it will happen much as I would like it to. BSI are fearful of doing anything that would diminish the crowd at Cardiff, which is their jewel in the crown. The fact of the matter is that none of us actually know whether it would or it wouldn't. The two events would be very different, no one is going to spend the day hanging around Kirky Lane, the weather could be a factor, the stadium doesn't have the facilities of the Principality, etc, etc.

But what we saw last night underlines what a fantastic race track they have at the NSS and that alone should attract a decent crowd. But would fans go to one or the other or both? That is the 64,000 dollar question that we cannot answer and I don't see BSI taking a risk, at least not in 2019.

Cardiff attracts many, many fans who do not go to any other speedway event in the UK during the course of a season. 

Buggar! With Cardiff being announced for September there are a lot of us that put 2 and 2 together and made 5!

Edited September 6, 2018 by RPNY

[Mark]

1 hour ago, PHILIPRISING said:

DON'T think it will happen much as I would like it to. BSI are fearful of doing anything that would diminish the crowd at Cardiff, which is their jewel in the crown. The fact of the matter is that none of us actually know whether it would or it wouldn't. The two events would be very different, no one is going to spend the day hanging around Kirky Lane, the weather could be a factor, the stadium doesn't have the facilities of the Principality, etc, etc.

But what we saw last night underlines what a fantastic race track they have at the NSS and that alone should attract a decent crowd. But would fans go to one or the other or both? That is the 64,000 dollar question that we cannot answer and I don't see BSI taking a risk, at least not in 2019.

Cardiff attracts many, many fans who do not go to any other speedway event in the UK during the course of a season. 

If they were far enough apart in the calendar I would go to both.    If Manchester was made free to air via BT Sport, give great racing, then the crowd at Cardiff could maybe swell.         With Cardiff being in the south the more northern Manchester compliments

Edited September 6, 2018 by Mark

[RPNY]

If Round one was in Manchester I see no reason why it would remotely affect Cardiff. Great City, Great track, Stadium that although is not a patch on Cardiff, is more than worthy of a GP. Madness if they dont have a GP there IMO.

Edited September 6, 2018 by RPNY

[Mark]

21 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said:

HE did...  although talking to Armando Castagna in Gorzow two weeks ago it is now probable. When better than to have Russia as the defending champions. The scoring will be different too. Badgered Armando about changing the name (Speedway of Nations sounds like an 'open' meeting - just call in the Speedway World Cup which is, after all, what it is but with a different format). Also suggested that riders with tape warnings have them scrapped before the semis or final. Nothing worse than a title being decided in a three man race. Of course, if a rider breaks the tapes he should still be excluded but not for a relatively minor offence which could just be in the eye of the referee on the night.

Great for the Russians but a pain for the huge majority who will struggle to get to Togliatti.      Good idea about the naming and tapes.     Hoping they get the scoring right for the Final in 2019.  

[PHILIPRISING]

THE FIM are very keen for these events to be taken to new venues.

[racers and royals]

17 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said:

THE FIM are very keen for these events to be taken to new venues.

Don’t worry about the quality of the racing!!! Lets have it at places like Tampere.

[Mark]

18 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said:

THE FIM are very keen for these events to be taken to new venues.

I'm all for new venues if they provide good racing but accessability maybe has to be taken into account.

[RPNY]

To be fair Togliatti is a great stadium and a good track. They will have a full house there. Cant begrudge Russia holding one FIM event!

Edited September 6, 2018 by RPNY

[jeffster]

22 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said:

THE FIM are very keen for these events to be taken to new venues.

Wonder if the new national stadium in Bratislava will be considered in a couple of years ?

Bratislava is a great city to spend time in.

 

https://spectator.sme.sk/c/20906724/slovakia-to-pay-more-for-its-ultra-modern-national-stadium.html

 

Slovakia to pay more for its ultra-modern national stadium

Bratislava will have one of most modern football stadiums in Europe and the state is ready to pay more, says PM Peter Pellegrini.

Bratislava will soon have one of the most modern football stadiums in Europe, Prime Minister Peter Pellegrini said after visiting the construction site of the National Football Stadium (NFS) on September 4. He admitted that the state’s investments in this project could increase.

This is partly because the construction costs will be higher than the original amount resulting from the tender. Ivan Kmotrík Senior, the head of the construction investor – National Football Stadium – admitted, as quoted by the TASR newswire, that the price has changed over time. This is a consequence of increased labour costs and new UEFA demands regarding lighting and certain parts of the stadium’s infrastructure, according to him. “It will be €7 million, perhaps €12 million more expensive. I’d be glad it if it weren’t more than five-six million,” said Kmotrík, according to TASR.

Setting priorities and negotiating

Whether the state will eventually pay more than expected when buying the stadium is a question of negotiations as well as priorities, the PM noted. “We must clearly determine whether we want the most up-to-date lighting and infrastructure possible, or if we’ll require something cheaper that lags behind the modern world,” Pellegrini said.

He added that “if we are to build a stadium, it must be in such a way that all who come to it will admire it”. According to the PM, it also depends on what's left on the investor’s shoulders as a result of the increased investments and what the state can contribute.

“We’re ready, I repeat ready to talk about it,” said Pellegrini, stressing that the decision must be transparent and that it's the right thing to do.

In this regard, he argued that the cost of the stadium, with the technical parameters that it is supposed to have, will be one of the lowest in current conditions when calculating cost per seat (the capacity will be 22,500 seats). “In any case, the capital city deserves a modern football stadium,” he stressed, as cited by the newswire.

Other potential use of the stadium

Bratislava Mayor Ivo Nesrovnal agrees, pointing out that the new “Tehelné Pole” (meaning Brick-field, name of the area and the previous stadium) will allow Slovakia to host teams and hold big matches. The stadium will also become the site of great cultural events.

“The background of the stadium can help create opportunities for developing congress tourism, which has huge potential,” Nesrovnal said, as quoted by the Sme daily.

The new stadium should receive final commissioning approval by the end of the year or early 2019. Although it is possible that the first match will be played there as early as this year, regular matches should be played from the beginning of the spring during the current football season, TASR wrote.

The new stadium is being built by STRABAG Pozemné a Inžinierske Staviteľstvo which, according to the contract with the investor – NFS – is supposed to complete the stadium within 76 weeks for €49.81 million ex-VAT (€59.77 million VAT-included). The state pledged to complete the construction and subsequently buy the non-commercial part of the stadium and to provide NFS with a contribution worth €27.2 million, which is due to be deducted from the purchase price.

On the same day, the football pitch, which the investor built in the complex of the nearby athletic elementary school Kalinčiakova, was opened. Another similar football pitch will be built in the school premises by the investor, Sme reported.

 

[screm]

On 9/5/2018 at 4:32 PM, PHILIPRISING said:

HE did...  although talking to Armando Castagna in Gorzow two weeks ago it is now probable. When better than to have Russia as the defending champions. The scoring will be different too. Badgered Armando about changing the name (Speedway of Nations sounds like an 'open' meeting - just call in the Speedway World Cup which is, after all, what it is but with a different format). Also suggested that riders with tape warnings have them scrapped before the semis or final. Nothing worse than a title being decided in a three man race. Of course, if a rider breaks the tapes he should still be excluded but not for a relatively minor offence which could just be in the eye of the referee on the night.

No problem with the tape rule as it is now, though I take your point regarding semi finals and finals. On another point how about teams showing up with the correct number of riders i.e three. I enjoyed the SoN but teams with no Under-21 reserve was a big let down to the competition.

[racers and royals]

23 minutes ago, screm said:

No problem with the tape rule as it is now, though I take your point regarding semi finals and finals. On another point how about teams showing up with the correct number of riders i.e three. I enjoyed the SoN but teams with no Under-21 reserve was a big let down to the competition.

In 2019 every team has to have a U21 reserve rider- that was in this years rules(for next year)

[Mark]

On 9/6/2018 at 3:00 PM, RPNY said:

To be fair Togliatti is a great stadium and a good track. They will have a full house there. Cant begrudge Russia holding one FIM event!

Did you see the meeting today.   Rubbish.   R&R says its like that for the majority.     I'm not expecting a good SON.

[KrisB]

Let’s have a second British GP at the NSS early in the season .....

[RPNY]

On 9/7/2018 at 4:31 PM, Mark said:

Did you see the meeting today.   Rubbish.   R&R says its like that for the majority.     I'm not expecting a good SON.

I did not Sir but seen a few good meetings there in the past. 

[DutchGrasstrack]

Malilla got a new deal for 3 more years.

[erinil1]

Just now, DutchGrasstrack said:

Malilla got a new deal for 3 more years.

And Hallstavik got a new deal for 2 more years.

https://www.svt.se/sport/motorsport/vm-tavling-stannar-i-malilla

[james1234]

Phil Morris says there will be a new country on the calendar for next year

https://www.monsterenergy.com/news/in-depth-meet-sgp-race-director-phil-morris