Mark Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 21 minutes ago, racers and royals said: It would be awesome if the 2 qualifiers were at Belle Vue and Czestochowa- the 2 best race tracks in the world. Wherever they are, every competing nation must have a U21 reserve rider in 2019 that would be great and with a full Polish program on Sunday after the Saturday qualifier. I'd make a trip to see those two meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, f-s-p said: 2019 book not published yet. I had read that text also from LAST years book. EDIT: last or this, you get what I mean I do however i do think the FIM will push through the U21 change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, racers and royals said: I do however i do think the FIM will push through the U21 change. They can do that. Entries had to be in a month ago with last years rules. But like I think I said, nobody wants the U21 rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, f-s-p said: They can do that. Entries had to be in a month ago with last years rules. But like I think I said, nobody wants the U21 rule. What do they want ? 3 senior rider teams ?(cost implications) or 2 man teams ?(injuries and you and the punters are stuffed ) Edited November 2, 2018 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Who wants an what! If I say there are 4 nations fighting for the top 3 spots, how many of them has good enough of a U21 rider? What cost implications? If one of our top2 gets injured, we might as well stay home. We have no good enough U21 riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, f-s-p said: Who wants an what! If I say there are 4 nations fighting for the top 3 spots, how many of them has good enough of a U21 rider? What cost implications? If one of our top2 gets injured, we might as well stay home. We have no good enough U21 riders. Well Poland, Russia, Denmark, Sweden USA, GB, Latvia, France, Australia and the Czech Rep all have a U21 rider that is half decent- which leaves 5 teams who might struggle. Prize money is rubbish and far better to split between 2 seniors and a U21 than 3 seniors ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Well Poland, Russia, Denmark, Sweden USA, GB, Latvia, France, Australia and the Czech Rep all have a U21 rider that is half decent- which leaves 5 teams who might struggle. Prize money is rubbish and far better to split between 2 seniors and a U21 than 3 seniors ! Sweden? Usa? I’m a bit iffy with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, f-s-p said: Sweden? Usa? I’m a bit iffy with this. .Joel Kling, Alexander Woentin,Anton Karlsson and Jonatan Grahn Luke Becker Edited November 2, 2018 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) Who are they? EDIT: cant see luke in the u21 list of the world and kling is an also ran. What you thin Morgan thinks, take an also ran isntead of AJ or Lindbäck? Edited November 2, 2018 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, f-s-p said: Who are they? EDIT: cant see luke in the u21 list of the world and kling is an also ran. What you thin Morgan thinks, take an also ran isntead of AJ or Lindbäck? You want to get out more and lay off the sauce Anton Karlsson is a real talent and Luke Becker has just finished a season in Poland for Rzeszow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: What do they want ? 3 senior rider teams ?(cost implications) or 2 man teams ?(injuries and you and the punters are stuffed ) 3 senior riders for me. its about entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Been out, now in. Who is this Karlsson fellow? Neverheard, and you think he`ll turn the SoN in Swedens way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 23 minutes ago, f-s-p said: Been out, now in. Who is this Karlsson fellow? Neverheard, and you think he`ll turn the SoN in Swedens way? Vastervik rider and a real talent- Lindback and Lindgren are more than capable of doing a job on their own for Sweden !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 9 hours ago, racers and royals said: Vastervik rider and a real talent- Lindback and Lindgren are more than capable of doing a job on their own for Sweden !!! But thats the problem! Should anything happen to the top 2, most teams have to rewrite their plans to succeed as their reserve U21 is well out of his depth. Finland as a prime example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 3 hours ago, f-s-p said: But thats the problem! Should anything happen to the top 2, most teams have to rewrite their plans to succeed as their reserve U21 is well out of his depth. Finland as a prime example. For fear of repeating myself, unless there is a major hike in the prize fund the tournament cannot support teams of 3 senior riders. If you take the published prize money and work out that this has to cover riders wages, hotels, travel, team managers,mechanics for 3 meetings it’s just ridiculous. For 2019 that has to include travelling to Russia !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 39 minutes ago, racers and royals said: For fear of repeating myself, unless there is a major hike in the prize fund the tournament cannot support teams of 3 senior riders. If you take the published prize money and work out that this has to cover riders wages, hotels, travel, team managers,mechanics for 3 meetings it’s just ridiculous. For 2019 that has to include travelling to Russia !!!! Prize money itself isn’t funding the teams. Not even Team Finland. and besides, who says the U21 rider has mechanics for free and they sleep together in the van. 4free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 Qualifier dates: 08th June ACU Qualifying Round 1 Glasgow Great Britain 08th June SMF Qualifying Round 2 Zarnovica Slovakia 08th June FMI Qualifying Round 3 Lamothe L. France 10th June DMSB Qualifying Round 4 Abensberg Germany 24th August HMS Challenge Gorican Croatia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingersfin Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 Another great event for Scotland. Happy about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 Belle Vue gets the U21 World Team Cup final on 12th-13th July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Woz01 said: Belle Vue gets the U21 World Team Cup final on 12th-13th July. That Belle Vue final i think is Either the 12th OR the 13th July- full U21 calendar Individual Junior World Championships: May 25 - 1st qualifying round - Pardubice (Czech Republic) 25 May - 2nd qualifying round - Germany (location not yet known) May 25 - 3rd qualifying round - Poland (location not yet known) 27 July - 1st finale - Poland (location not yet known) September 14 - 2nd finale - Latvia (location not yet known) October 4 - 3rd finale - Pardubice (Czech Republic) Junior World Junior Team: 29 June - 1st semi-final - Daugavpils (Latvia) June 29 - Semi-final - Vetlanda (Sweden) 12/13 July - finals - Manchester (Great Britain) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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