geoff100 Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 I know the track was bad but back in the day riders had more throttle control tracks were rougher with lots more dirt on them , i remember first time i went to berwick in1972 was like a ploughed field bikes bouncing everywhere but they got on with it .riders today should know throttle works both ways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 hour ago, ReadingRacer2017 said: Club Statement THE following relates to Monday night v Leicester: The management of Swindon Speedway recognise that track conditions for Monday’s meeting against Leicester were far from perfect. A number of factors came together to create a perfect storm of problems. We are working hard on the issues and expect to have them resolved by next Monday’s meeting against Wolverhampton. The way it was dragging on last night, next Monday's match almost became the second part of a double-header. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 7 hours ago, Baldyman said: Maybe it's time to move away from the shale tracks and try something else, for example what's used at show jumping or all weather horse tracks. Has anything like this ever been trialled? Yes at Newcastle. We opened Newcastle in 1997 and had a local Aluminium smelter, Alcan, on the coast at Newbiggin. We trialled 'furnace bottoms' on a path in Northumberland during the winter and it looked Ok to do the job. The new track and the fence were put in, and the track compacted like shale tracks. A difficulty was found on P % P day, when a hole appeared which caused Andre Compton to fall and he receive a spiral fracture on the leg bone. More work was carried out and during our first opening meeting, the track broke up badly and the riders were not happy, but with intervention from my 'friend' Ian Thomas he helped us to get thought the meeting with the riders agreeing to see the meeting out with a new inside line down to avoid the holes. The problem was that the furnace bottoms doesn't bind like shale. despite any amount of compaction. In fact compaction only toughened up the top surface, but it you spun the rear wheel it went through the toughened surface, and dropped into a new hole created by the spinning. During the following week this material was dug out and scattered around the car park and interior areas to get rid of it whilst the then closed Cleveland Park was opened up and all it's shale transported to Brough by lorries. This was compacted in layers, and meant we are fit enough to open up with our second meeting the following week with massive praise from all the riders at such good track. Later on in 1999, Newport had a similar problem with compaction of their 'oatmeal' looking shale, and Tim Stone had to stop riders warming their tyres on the home straight. The main issue with a material is compaction, and the materials ability to bind under pressure. Old engine oil from 'loss' engine systems, and some later on, helped this sticky problem, but that is now not allowed under the H % S environment rules. The test of any track is to squeeze a handful of shale to see it is sucks together, and hope that the pinky/red shale is dark during a meeting as a change to pink means it is now too dry and needs some water. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tsunami said: The main issue with a material is compaction, and the materials ability to bind under pressure. Old engine oil from 'loss' engine systems, and some later on, helped this sticky problem, but that is now not allowed under the H % S environment rules. The test of any track is to squeeze a handful of shale to see it is sucks together, and hope that the pinky/red shale is dark during a meeting as a change to pink means it is now too dry and needs some water. A few years ago at i track I rode for we had some shale delivered that was rubbish and didn’t bind at all and made it’s terrible to ride so when we were prepping the track at 11pm the night before our next meeting the tractor accidentally knocked over the waste oil drum in the pits which rolled onto the track and continued to roll round the track untill it was completely empty,as much as we tried we just couldn’t stop it rolling the next day it rained in the morning and the track was a nice shade of blue and yellow but was nice to ride if not a little sticky Edited July 24, 2018 by THE DEAN MACHINE 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: A few years ago at i track I rode for we had some shale delivered that was rubbish and didn’t bind at all and made it’s terrible to ride so when we were prepping the track at 11pm the night before our next meeting the tractor accidentally knocked over the waste oil drum in the pits which rolled onto the track and continued to roll round the track untill it was completely empty,as much as we tried we just couldn’t stop it rolling the next day it rained in the morning and the track was a nice shade of blue and yellow but was nice to ride if not a little sticky I've known this accident happen many times after the ban was introduced, but the difficulty is that you had to have at least one receipt of having an oil drum taken away by the environment agency. Difficult to stop these sort of accidents. Edited July 25, 2018 by Tsunami 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 22 hours ago, A ORLOV said: Yes they do have a large water truck but used that to top up the small sprayer, if they had not done that there would have been no or very little water available due to the lack of water pressure in the area. I get more water out of my tap at home than they sometimes get at the track. So Swindon is being cunningly shafted to the point where it becomes unfeasible to operate any more? Add to that, environmental issues (stemming from poor water supply of course!). Problems with flooding to dwellings due to the prescence of a stadium. What a bunch of fools they've been made to look. Or are they?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 On 7/24/2018 at 3:19 PM, cityrebel said: That's the risk I take when I go to Kent. No curfew, no speedway at central park, it's as simple as that. Last night was the first time it has happened this season. A rider receiving medical treatment for a serious injury has to take priority over running three races. Two weeks in a row now????This time even less heats run I think and no refund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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