Grand Central Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) Last night's refereeing performance at the British GP must go down as one of the worst in the history of the SGP. He had one difficult decision to make all night but still managed to mess up several others that were straightforward. Live .. these incidents can produce the tensions and shout-out moments that add to the controversy, atmosphere and buzz. As the ref becomes a pantomime villain of sorts, he can become part of the show. But watching on TV .... Less so. You don't tend to get that 'extra dimension' you can at the track from such an incompetent in the box. It just irritates the hell out of the viewer and the injustice created festers more. I was begging for some FIM white coated medics to come along at the interval and escort the poor man back to his facility. Some one needed to help him get out of there for his own good. Edited July 22, 2018 by Grand Central 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 He did look totally bemused every time they showed him. I think he entered a 'collect 20 crisp packets and become a referee for the night' competition.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 Either the weakest of eyes. the tiniest of brains or the least experience of any ratified referee ever ( assuming he was ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 what was his name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 What can be done ?. As fans, complain and move on, as FIM/BSI make sure last night referee is never again allowed any where near a SGP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike1944 Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 49 minutes ago, ch958 said: what was his name? Either Dumbo or Mickey Mouse Seriously though, from a source in another post he was named as Quote Ref was Christian Froschauer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 hour ago, screm said: What can be done ?. As fans, complain and move on, as FIM/BSI make sure last night referee is never again allowed any where near a SGP. NOTHING to do with BSI but FIM not impressed although obviously they won't say so publicly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: NOTHING to do with BSI but FIM not impressed although obviously they won't say so publicly. Fair enough, never a good sign when the refereeing makes the head lines and last night Mr Froschauer certainly did that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: NOTHING to do with BSI but FIM not impressed although obviously they won't say so publicly. Is there any likelihood of the FIM Jury stepping in in such cases. If not, surely last night could be used as justification for a new rule allowing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Star Lady said: Is there any likelihood of the FIM Jury stepping in in such cases. If not, surely last night could be used as justification for a new rule allowing it. STEPPING in at what stage? During a meeting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 57 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: STEPPING in at what stage? During a meeting? If necessary yes. Or an appeal procedure to the jury during a meeting, obviously number limited to avoid frivolous appeals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 3 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: NOTHING to do with BSI but FIM not impressed although obviously they won't say so publicly. Not saying it’s right but looking at it from bsi point of view he was a dream for them, he got the crowd wound up like a pantomime villain and we are still talking about it today, as I said it’s not right as it’s a professional sport but a little bit of crowd interaction is never a bad thing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 At the end of the day it’s up to the FIM to appoint properly qualified and competent referees who can officiate at this level. Someone clearly didn’t do his homework on this idiot who has slipped through the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 55 minutes ago, Star Lady said: If necessary yes. Or an appeal procedure to the jury during a meeting, obviously number limited to avoid frivolous appeals. NOT practical ... would take ages to convene the jury, the time taken would be prohibitive. It is not like the referee doesn't have countless TV replays to help him. But his decision is final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 39 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: NOT practical ... would take ages to convene the jury, the time taken would be prohibitive. It is not like the referee doesn't have countless TV replays to help him. But his decision is final. 2 refs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 I seem to recall a ref for an ovesrseas final at poole , appointend by the fim , only ever done domestic speedway in italy , brought his whole extended family for a fotrnights holiday all paid for by the fim . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 2 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: NOT practical ... would take ages to convene the jury, the time taken would be prohibitive. It is not like the referee doesn't have countless TV replays to help him. But his decision is final. I don't see why it's not practical. The FIM jury are in Cardiff anyway (unless they've banned jollies), put them in a room with access to TV replays and a phone. Would take no longer than TMO in rugby or VAR in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, Star Lady said: I don't see why it's not practical. The FIM jury are in Cardiff anyway (unless they've banned jollies), put them in a room with access to TV replays and a phone. Would take no longer than TMO in rugby or VAR in football. THEY have various other duties during the course of a meeting and are rarely all in one place. 11 minutes ago, Star Lady said: I don't see why it's not practical. The FIM jury are in Cardiff anyway (unless they've banned jollies), put them in a room with access to TV replays and a phone. Would take no longer than TMO in rugby or VAR in football. But the referee's decision is still final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 I don`t want to see any decisions taken by committee as that would only confuse things still further IMO, best left to one referee on the night. Those who ask for a football VAR system for the referee, I think we already have that with all the tv replay assistance there is on the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 3 hours ago, adonis said: 2 refs What happens when the two refs disagree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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