Bagpuss Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 8 hours ago, iainb said: Some people won't be happy unless it's held in their own backyard. There were a lot of people that travelled a lot further than the North of the country to this event. Even holding it at BV is no guarantee of great racing, remember the world cup event of a few years ago There is never a guarantee on racing but it’s much, much more likely to be good at Belle Vue than Cardiff. The World Cup final two years ago was good, it was the race off the night before which wasn’t as the track was far too grippy. As Rob B says it would be to compliment Cardiff and not replace it, but I’d like to think they learn something from each Cardiff meeting and try to make racing better the next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: There is never a guarantee on racing but it’s much, much more likely to be good at Belle Vue than Cardiff. The World Cup final two years ago was good, it was the race off the night before which wasn’t as the track was far too grippy. As Rob B says it would be to compliment Cardiff and not replace it, but I’d like to think they learn something from each Cardiff meeting and try to make racing better the next time. They don't though , there has been some decent GP's at Cardiff in the past , this however wasnt one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 The racing wasn't great on Saturday. It has been a few years since I've been to a Cardiff GP (2008 I think) but it seemed to me that it was done more on a budget than previously, but perhaps I've been spoiled by the slickness of Poland in recent years. The date for next year looks an absolute nightmare, right at the start of the School Holidays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Col said: The racing wasn't great on Saturday. It has been a few years since I've been to a Cardiff GP (2008 I think) but it seemed to me that it was done more on a budget than previously, but perhaps I've been spoiled by the slickness of Poland in recent years. The date for next year looks an absolute nightmare, right at the start of the School Holidays. Excellent. What could be better then Mums and Dads taking kids to the GP, or even kids mythering mums and dads to take them. Isn’t that what speedway needs, more youngsters. Well the opportunity is on a plate. The speedway nation should be embracing it, not whinging about it. I’m convinced a lot of this forums members are happy to be moaners. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 On one hand that's good in that it could attract more youngsters one the other hand the route to Cardiff is also the route to allot of UK holiday destinations. The M5 also goes to Cornwall & Devon. Also the hotels will be more expensive! Not so good for speedway fans who don't have children of school age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 IN all honesty I think the tracks are now "too good" in the sense that they are smooth, no ruts, and World class riders can do four laps without making mistakes. The inherent problem now is how to create an outside racing line. The track dimensions cannot change (no room) and I'm no expert but if they could introduce more banking that might help. However, I do know that it is something that is being discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 37 minutes ago, Col said: The racing wasn't great on Saturday. It has been a few years since I've been to a Cardiff GP (2008 I think) but it seemed to me that it was done more on a budget than previously, but perhaps I've been spoiled by the slickness of Poland in recent years. The date for next year looks an absolute nightmare, right at the start of the School Holidays. DON'T forget that BSI have to abide by availability of the stadium. This year it was late because of the Rugby World Cup... in 2020 when the rugby season returns to normal things changed again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: IN all honesty I think the tracks are now "too good" in the sense that they are smooth, no ruts, and World class riders can do four laps without making mistakes. The inherent problem now is how to create an outside racing line. The track dimensions cannot change (no room) and I'm no expert but if they could introduce more banking that might help. However, I do know that it is something that is being discussed. You make a perfect point. The tracks are too good which is safer for the riders but the racing is not exciting. Any rider who went wide at Cardiff lost ground. From the TV the outside lines were in deep dirt and they lacked drive. Edited September 23, 2019 by Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 15 hours ago, iainb said: I'm the sandwich guy, cheese and onion from Aldi... When the last time a cheese and onion sandwich or a bottle of water killed anybody though I don't know... Can you make a bomb out of a cheese and onion sandwich and a bottle of water? Sandwich unlikely, but you can do a lot of damage with a bottle of "clear liquid" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 14 hours ago, mikebv said: Fireputterouter Sam it is then... Essential nowadays to get it completely right and face up to the fact that Fireputterouter has quite a ring to it, if the pronunciation stresses are in the correct place. Next step will be to call them all Fire Officers in the rush for "democracy' in the ranks. Women's speedway to follow on from the new "craze" of women's football? Have to give away a lot of tickets at Cardiff for that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothers Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Is anyone else having problems with buying their 'own' seats again for next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yearbyred Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Boothers said: Is anyone else having problems with buying their 'own' seats again for next year? Mine worked fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Absolute borefest again and the reason why i dont part with my hard earned cash. Irrelevant to me is the buzz beforehand i want to be entertained by what goes on on the track and Cardiff this year same as most years is boring racing. Anyone who went wide looking for grip just went backwards.....riders just stuck to the white line and the riders behind couldnt pass. The only real overtaking was going down the back straight of lap one going into bend 3 with riders having the drive off of bend two to either hold the outside or shoot up the inner Emil got over Madsen but rode wide and Madsen kept it low and got back Lambert was so much slower then Madsen but as long as he rode tight Madsen was never going to pass him I think the razzamatazz of the occasion clouds peoples judgements.... was possibly the worst gp of the season 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 13 hours ago, falcace said: I would love the thought of a 'second GP' here some place... a "European GP." Or whatever, at another venue. I would be up for that concept. 100 percent. If it's at the NSS then Bring It On! If it's anywhere else in the UK. then it would be pointless. Increasing the number of tracks where good racing is part of the event should be the aim of the organisers. Especially if the idea is to help make UK speedway more buoyant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazysue Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Gavan said: Absolute borefest again and the reason why i dont part with my hard earned cash. Irrelevant to me is the buzz beforehand i want to be entertained by what goes on on the track and Cardiff this year same as most years is boring racing. Anyone who went wide looking for grip just went backwards.....riders just stuck to the white line and the riders behind couldnt pass. The only real overtaking was going down the back straight of lap one going into bend 3 with riders having the drive off of bend two to either hold the outside or shoot up the inner Emil got over Madsen but rode wide and Madsen kept it low and got back Lambert was so much slower then Madsen but as long as he rode tight Madsen was never going to pass him I think the razzamatazz of the occasion clouds peoples judgements.... was possibly the worst gp of the season This may mark me as not a proper speedway fan but it's the buzz, the social side, the atmosphere that I mainly go for...I know the racing is more than likely not going to be the best due to it being a temporary track so if it's not, it is no surprise and if the racing does turn out to be good....bonus! Plus the fact I don't get out much, so any day out is a momentous occasion to be celebrated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffster Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 21 hours ago, jeff said: This was approx 13.30. Told all cheaper tickets had sold out. I understand why they do this. I'm just saying that it's a short term policy. I wouldn't go again on the spur of the moment. I always buy from "See Tickets" well in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffster Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 21 hours ago, bluebee said: Agree racing was not great but a good atmosphere and it had the feel of a special event. Took a newbie (duaghter's partner from Amsterdam) and he commented on the first our of the gate nature of the racing. Unfortuantely, Cardiff reinforces the stereotypical view of speedway and that can't help the sport. I've been to 5 Cardiff GPs and seen this one wasn't the best but OK. My major gripe was the traffic. We travelled down from the Midlands and the traffic around Newport and Cardiff was horrendous. With a major event on why was there no good Park and Ride set up from East Cardiff? Seems to me that the GP organisers should consider possible alternatives and remind Cardiff of the value of 40000 hungry and thirsty speeday supporters. There are good stadia now in other UK cities that might offer a more comfortable experience. Sad to say glad Zmarzlik didn't win. Poles around me were pains. If English supporters had behaved like them there would have been complaints galore. It was Brits in U15, the lady immediately to my right and I had our backs doused with beer from the drunk lads behind me ! I think there were from south Wales judging by their accent, but not entirely sure ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Paulco said: They don't though , there has been some decent GP's at Cardiff in the past , this however wasnt one of them I’ll be honest mate I’m struggling to remember the last decent Cardiff meeting. I didn’t miss one from 2001-2014 and the social side was always the highlight of the weekend. Certainly wouldn’t want it removed from the calendar but as a general point sone of the poor tracks do as we’ve had too many boring rounds and not enough exciting ones. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 13 hours ago, Fromafar said: Well done to Charles Wright, didn’t let anybody down with that performance. Agree well done Charles, would probably have got one or two more points if the ref had not made a big error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangerBoy Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: Excellent. What could be better then Mums and Dads taking kids to the GP, or even kids mythering mums and dads to take them. Isn’t that what speedway needs, more youngsters. Well the opportunity is on a plate. The speedway nation should be embracing it, not whinging about it. I’m convinced a lot of this forums members are happy to be moaners. Think the point might be fun and games just getting there ie traffic. Took me over 4 hours Saturday from Reading!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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