Sings4Speedway Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 Found this which is very informative http://www.spensites.co.uk/mdl.html#mdlabout Good news is you are both correct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHarris Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mimmo said: I'm tied up for a few days Kelvin, but I will answer your question in due course. Was the MDL on the go in 2011? If it was, can you give me a pointer as to what clubs were in it, as I have nor records of it? Thanks Mike, The 2011 edition was known as the Midland League but came to be known as the MDL half way through. It was an unofficial league as the MDL was not sanctioned by the BSPA until 2012 so I doubt any results for 2011 would be listed in their archives. For the record 5 teams took part - Halifax, Long Eaton, Scunthorpe, Sheffield and Team Viking Academy (based at Sheffield). Long Eaton and Viking Academy then raced in a 2 leg Grand Final. Unfortunately I dont have the scores anymore as my laptop from that time has died. I will do my best to dig any info I can out though. I would have a good bet on Connor Dwyer being up there. In the meantime this may help http://www.spensites.co.uk/mdlinfo11.html Edited January 24, 2019 by kelvinlapworth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Central Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 5 hours ago, kelvinlapworth said: Thanks Mike, The 2011 edition was known as the Midland League but came to be known as the MDL half way through. It was an unofficial league as the MDL was not sanctioned by the BSPA until 2012 so I doubt any results for 2011 would be listed in their archives. For the record 5 teams took part - Halifax, Long Eaton, Scunthorpe, Sheffield and Team Viking Academy (based at Sheffield). Long Eaton and Viking Academy then raced in a 2 leg Grand Final. Unfortunately I dont have the scores anymore as my laptop from that time has died. I will do my best to dig any info I can out though. I would have a good bet on Connor Dwyer being up there. In the meantime this may help http://www.spensites.co.uk/mdlinfo11.html Kelvin it is very interesting to read your summary of that year . Heady days indeed. Thank you for everything you did in running and promoting it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 8 hours ago, Great Central said: Kelvin it is very interesting to read your summary of that year . Heady days indeed. Thank you for everything you did in running and promoting it. Likewise its great to look back and see the humble beginnings which grew so rapidly in just a couple of years. Far too many dismiss the league and its racing but the list of riders who have progressed through the MDL and into NL and beyond is extensive so a great many owe you, Nigel and all the other volunteers a huge debt of thanks (if only the bspa were as supportive). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Got slightly bored but a very quick look at the archives for 2012-2014 shows just how many riders progressed through the MDL into the higher leagues (ive only listed full time places and not unattached guests as that would make it even longer. Many notable names along with some wasters but still impressive and a credit to all those involved in organising and 2 fingers to those who brand it the wobblers club. Max Clegg Chris Widman Andy Mellish Tom Woolley Shaun Tedham Adam Kirby Jack Kingston David Holt Josh Bates Daniel Greenwood Lee Geary Conor Dwyer Tyler Govier Martin Knuckey Adam Portwood Ellis Perks Oliver Greenwood Liam Rumsey Connor Coles Nick Laurence Danno Verge Ryan Terry-Daley Adam Sheppard Connor Dugard Danny Phillips Martin Wrathall Luke Chessell Matt Williamson Rob Shuttleworth Adam Extance Sam Woods Nathan Greaves Luke Crang James Shanes Martin Knuckey Lewis Rose Josh Bailey Connor Mountain Ryan MacDonald Arron Mogridge Lee Payne Reece Downes Sam Chapman Layne Cupitt Stefan Farnaby Tom Bacon Ben Basford Robert Parker Danyon Hume Jason Garrad Paul Bowen Ryan Kinsley Alex Wilson Danny Ayres Luke Harris Jamie Couzins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted January 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 quite an impresssive list there , makes it all the more dissapointing seeing it , that this particular production line was largely disregarded by the BSPA except for the revenue it collected by way of licenses and registrations . I very much doubt that in another 8 years you will be able to compile such an impressive list 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 6:56 PM, kelvinlapworth said: Thanks Mike, The 2011 edition was known as the Midland League but came to be known as the MDL half way through. It was an unofficial league as the MDL was not sanctioned by the BSPA until 2012 so I doubt any results for 2011 would be listed in their archives. For the record 5 teams took part - Halifax, Long Eaton, Scunthorpe, Sheffield and Team Viking Academy (based at Sheffield). Long Eaton and Viking Academy then raced in a 2 leg Grand Final. Unfortunately I dont have the scores anymore as my laptop from that time has died. I will do my best to dig any info I can out though. I would have a good bet on Connor Dwyer being up there. In the meantime this may help http://www.spensites.co.uk/mdlinfo11.html Here is what you wanted Kelvin. MIDLAND DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE RIDERS’ POINTS 2011(Includes Guest Rides & Tactical Rides)(Unofficial) Lee Geary 83 Luke Chessell 46 Chris Widman 45 Ricky Scarboro 41 Conor Dwyer 40 Oliver Greenwood 38 Adam Kirby 36 Jordan Tyrer 31 Daniel Mitchell 29 Ben Holloway 27 Liam Rumsey 27 Steven Jones 22 Adam Kenyon 20 Michael Mitchell 20 Ben Hopwood 17 Tom Woolley 17 Rachel Hellowell 13 Andrew Blackburn 12 Connor Coles 12 Tom Hill 11 Adam Wrathall 11 Wayne Carter 9 Tamas Sike 9 Lewis Blackbird 5 Adam Briggs 5 David Holt 5 Trevor Bebbington 4 Benji Compton 4 Alex McLeod 4 Ross Walter 4 Adam Portwood 2 Paul Chester 0Compiled by Mike Moseley MIDLAND DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE RIDERS' POINTS 2012-2018 David Holt 403 Lee Geary 371 Layne Cupitt 337 Alex Wilson 270 Adam Portwood 258 Conor Dwyer 251 Shaun Tedham 245 Sam Chapman 234 Tom Bacon 223 Max Clegg 219 Andy Mellish 205 Rob Watts 200 Adam Sheppard 197 Luke Whitehead 194 Stephen Whitehouse 193 Tom Woolley 191 Adam Kirby 186 Josh Bailey 171 Sam Ward 154 Connor King 153 Jeremy Pestell 146 Jack P Blackburn 144 Ryan Terry-Daley 139 Robert Parker 136 Niall Strudwick 135 Michael Neale 131 Danny Ayres 127 Sam Darroch 123 Danyon Hume 122 Sam Woolley 121 Daniel Phillips 120 Lee Springthorpe 119 Jamie Halder 114 Connor Fletcher 108 Rob Shuttleworth 106 Oliver Greenwood 103 Lee Payne 103 Kean Dicken 102 William O’Keefe 102 Kyle Roberts 101 Ben Basford 98 Sam Wright 94 Ryan Kinsley 91 Cameron Hoskins 89 Matt Williamson 84 Taylor Hampshire 83 Ben Holloway 82 George Hunter 82 Tom Spencer 82Martin Knuckey 81 Mitchell Beckett 79 James Chattin 75 Connor Mountain 74 Sam Woods 73 Scooter Webster 72 Andrew Blackburn 70 Arran Butcher 70 Sheldon Davies 68 Danno Verge 68 Chris Bambury 63 Andy Mountain 63 Ben Hewitt 60 Dan Gilkes 56 Daniel Greenwood 52 Joe Alcock 51Nathan Greaves 51 Chris Watts 51 Liam Rumsey 50 Bradley Andrews 47 Paul Bowen 47 Chris Hay 47 John Markham 47 Ryan MacDonald 47 Andrew Braithwaite 44 Ben Rathbone 43 Alec Wright 43 Lewis Whitmore 43 Jack Thomas 41 James Shanes 40 Reece Downes 39 Jake Isherwood 37 Connor Coles 36 Lloyd Ditchburn 36 Lewis Austen 35 Carl Basford 35 Luke Harris 34 Arron Mogridge 34 Sean Phillips 34 Henry Atkins 33Ryan Burton 31 Craig Osborne 31 Jason Garrad 29 Sam Bebee 28 Martin Wrathall 28 Ben Woodhull 26 Josh Embleton 25 Luke Crang 25 David Morgan 25 George Rothery 25 Alex Spooner 25 Alfie Bowtell 23 Adam Extance 23 Mark Baldock 22 Ross Walter 22 Dan Miles 21 Liam Sanderson 21 Chris Widman 21 Adam Barber 20 John Gaskell 20 Ellis Perks 20 Gavin Parr 20 Bradley Seal 20 Charles Wallace 20 Lawrence Fielding 19 Josh Bates 18 Tommy Fenwick 18 Bailey Fellows 18 Nick Laurence 18 Rachel Hellowell 17 Jordan Jenkins 17 Joe Lawlor 17 Jack Kingston 16 Luke McKenna 15 Lewis Rose 15 Paul Quarterman 13 Lewis Millar 12 Martin Pearce 12 Tom Stokes 12 David Wallinger 12 Michael Faulkner 11 Tom Sipos 11 Callum Walker 11 Danny Wright 11 Tim Colley 10 Kevin Whelan 10 Saul Bulley 9 Luke Chessell 9 Corban Pavitt 9 Luke Ruddick 9 Jamie Bursill 8 Joe Exley 8 Lewis Griggs 8 Dale Lamb 8 Jake Williams 8 Trevor Bebbington 7 James Hitchen 7 Alex McLeod 7 Harvie Banks 6 Simon Allan 6 Tom Braddock 6 Jack Hall 6 James Jessop 6 Rikki Mullins 6 Jamie Sealey 6 James Spencer 6 Kurtis Scarboro 6 Stefan Farnaby 5 Damon Hall 5 Stuart Freeman 5 Tyler Govier 5 Dan Mitchell 5 Brad Tokley 5 Stevie Anderson 4 Jamie Couzins 4 Emerson Jones 4 Harry Jones 4 Freddie Owen 4 Russell Barnett 3 Jamie Collins 3 Daniel Hunt 3 Simon Pearce 3 Ollie Rutter 3 David Speight 3 Luke Woodhull 3 Ronan Atkinson 2 Jacob Clouting 2 Connor Dugard 2 Callum Harris 2 Craig Hancock 2 Kevin Keay 2 Chris Neame 2 Blair Smith 2 Jack Smith 2 Daniel Woodward 2 Haydon Ball 1 Lloyd Barrett 1 Adam Briggs 1 David Lidgett 1 Steve Cook 0 Liam Carr 0 Compiled by Mike Moseley. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Hey mike you fancy doing the same for the njl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Huge thanks for the list (who would have suspected Liam Carr would have been bottom). Plenty of long forgotten names in there along with loads of established ones too. By my quick rough count there are over 90 riders in the list that have been declared in full league 1-7's at some point. Think thats very impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 14 hours ago, phillwhitewasmad said: Hey mike you fancy doing the same for the njl Hi don't think I have any records prior to 2012. I will at some point have a look at doing what you want from 2012 onwards, but it won't be immediate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Mimmo said: Hi don't think I have any records prior to 2012. I will at some point have a look at doing what you want from 2012 onwards, but it won't be immediate. Phil, I can find records dating back to 2011, but I believe the NJL started in 2010 didn't it? If so, do you know where I can locate the results and scorers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Mimmo said: Phil, I can find records dating back to 2011, but I believe the NJL started in 2010 didn't it? If so, do you know where I can locate the results and scorers? no sorry I don't 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHarris Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 5 hours ago, Mimmo said: Phil, I can find records dating back to 2011, but I believe the NJL started in 2010 didn't it? If so, do you know where I can locate the results and scorers? Dick Barrie (press officer at Berwick?) may be your best bet. I'm sure he was the one running it from 2010 - 2012. After that Jamie Swales took it over for a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 On 1/30/2019 at 7:22 PM, phillwhitewasmad said: Hey mike you fancy doing the same for the njl I haven't been able to get any riders points for 2010 I'm afraid, so this is from 2011 onwards. NORTHERN JUNIOR LEAGUE RIDERS' POINTS 2011-2018 Archie Freeman 239 Corban Pavitt 221 Josh Embleton 204 Kieran Douglas 187 Sam McGurk 177 Jordan Palin 176 James Hitchen 175 Ryan MacDonald 170 Gavin Parr 159 Kevin Whelan 157 Carl Basford 153 Dale Lamb 153 Luke Harrison 150 Daniel Phillips 144 Elliot Kelly 143 Harry McGurk 143 Lewis Millar 135 Kean Dicken 133 Leon Flint 130 Gregor Millar 121 Kieran McCoy(aka Taylor) 119 Ben Basford 110 James McBain 105 George Rothery 103 Ryan Morris 97 Kyle Bickley 96 Tommy Fenwick 96 Jack Wright 94 Luke Ruddick 84 Dan Gilkes 82 Alex Goldsbrough 81 Paul Bowen 77 Max Perry 71 David Morgan 70 Peter Johnson 63 Rob Shuttleworth 57 Stefan Farnaby 56 Mark Mclkenny 55 Luke McKenna 54 Lloyd Ditchburn 52 Joe Lawlor 52 Sheldon Davies 50 Liam Carr 47 Blair Smith 42 Jay Farish 40 Chris Hay 40 Kyran Lyden 39 Sam Darroch 38 Jack Bell 36 John MacPhail 35 Dale Pate 35 Ben Rathbone 35 Steven Morris 32 Kevin Keay 30 Danny Smith 30 Jack Flynn 29 Andrew Sturrock 28 Tom Spencer 28 Brenton Barnfield 27 Jamie Halder 27 Rikki Anderson 20 Gary Flint 20 Beau Stonehewer 20 Ace Pijper 19 Connor Lamb 18Bailey Fellows 17 Greg Mackie 16 Arlo Bugeja 15 Adam Kenyon 15 Caydin Martin 15 Brady Mudgway 14 Kyle Deans 13 Matt Williamson 13 Callum Gill 12 Max Clegg 11 Daniel Mitchell 11 David Pye 11 Liam Little 10 Michael Neale 10 Glyn Picken 10 James Cartmell 9 Marty Rathbone 9 Montana Jowett 8 Lee Baldwin 7 William Cairns 7 Emerson Jones 7 William O’Keefe 7 John Atkinson 6 Jake Isherwood 6 Alex Wilson 6 Jack Hall 5 Phil Learmonth 5 Adam Barber 4 John Gaskell 4 Rachel Hellowell 4 Ashton Vale 4 Connor Coles 3 James Culbert 3 Dean Douglas 3 Joe Fisher 3Freddie Fox-Baron 3 Dan Thompson 3 Joe Thompson 3 Ben Trigger 3 Luke Whitehead 3 Luke Woodhull 3 Andrew Blackburn 2 Sam Chapman 2 Kris Forster 2 Archie Wareham 1 Stephen Whitehouse 1 Daniel Woodward 1 Lewis Winthrop 0 Compiled by Mike Moseley. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted February 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Just seen that Milton Keynes have managed to secure a home for MDL this year At brum / having seen the announcement of their squad . especailly who has been named captain . I no lionger have any interest in MDL , 39 year olds who have been in mdl for at least 5 years and have still got 0 point averages hold no interest for me I'm afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 On 2/23/2019 at 10:58 PM, adonis said: Just seen that Milton Keynes have managed to secure a home for MDL this year At brum / having seen the announcement of their squad . especailly who has been named captain . I no lionger have any interest in MDL , 39 year olds who have been in mdl for at least 5 years and have still got 0 point averages hold no interest for me I'm afraid Sadly MK don't have the scope within the lower ranks of the sport anymore to find / introduce riders not quite ready for the step up (as per the leagues initial concept) although in their defence they are not alone. The league though is becoming clogged up with riders who are just starting out in the sport rather than having a couple of years at amateur level then pushing for dev league spots, in turn this is dragging down the standard of the leagues and tarnishing the good names that the hard working volunteers are trying to protect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHarris Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/23/2019 at 10:58 PM, adonis said: Just seen that Milton Keynes have managed to secure a home for MDL this year At brum / having seen the announcement of their squad . especailly who has been named captain . I no lionger have any interest in MDL , 39 year olds who have been in mdl for at least 5 years and have still got 0 point averages hold no interest for me I'm afraid I understand where your'e coming from but "mature riders" are nothing new in the MDL. If you go back to the first couple of editions of the MDL a good number of the riders were over 30 but thankfully league developed into what it was intended and the majority of riders are now under 20. Sadly though with the league now combined with the southern tracks, teams may have to rely move heavily on the over 30's to travel down to the likes of Eastbourne, Isle of White and Plymouth as midland and northern based youngsters will struggle to do the journey in the week if their dads can't get time off. Lets not forget they are not paid travel expenses, etc at this level. Someone has pointed out on another thread that it won't be a problem as lads want to race regardless of where in the country it is. True, but its not the kids that are having to take the time off work and drive them around. I do hope the S+MDL works but I do fear it will put too much on the Midland/Northern based riders. Hopefully this is just for one season and next year more tracks will come back into the fold so the leagues can be regionalised again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 47 minutes ago, kelvinlapworth said: I understand where your'e coming from but "mature riders" are nothing new in the MDL. If you go back to the first couple of editions of the MDL a good number of the riders were over 30 but thankfully league developed into what it was intended and the majority of riders are now under 20. Sadly though with the league now combined with the southern tracks, teams may have to rely move heavily on the over 30's to travel down to the likes of Eastbourne, Isle of White and Plymouth as midland and northern based youngsters will struggle to do the journey in the week if their dads can't get time off. Lets not forget they are not paid travel expenses, etc at this level. Someone has pointed out on another thread that it won't be a problem as lads want to race regardless of where in the country it is. True, but its not the kids that are having to take the time off work and drive them around. I do hope the S+MDL works but I do fear it will put too much on the Midland/Northern based riders. Hopefully this is just for one season and next year more tracks will come back into the fold so the leagues can be regionalised again. Is it not time to introduce the 125/150 class same as the njl there’s loads of youth riders in the south on those bikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 11 hours ago, phillwhitewasmad said: Is it not time to introduce the 125/150 class same as the njl there’s loads of youth riders in the south on those bikes With respect are there enough 125/150 riders of a sensible level to be split between all the teams and who would be willing/able to do all the travelling for non guaranteed rides. 6 teams means 12-16 riders required, the youth rounds don't back up that there are that many out there willing to compete so its never been officially introduced. On a personal level i find the NJL format a bit tedious and lacking variety plus despite the drop in standard of the dev leagues the sport needs more riders and opportunities to hone their skills not less. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted March 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: With respect are there enough 125/150 riders of a sensible level to be split between all the teams and who would be willing/able to do all the travelling for non guaranteed rides. 6 teams means 12-16 riders required, the youth rounds don't back up that there are that many out there willing to compete so its never been officially introduced. On a personal level i find the NJL format a bit tedious and lacking variety plus despite the drop in standard of the dev leagues the sport needs more riders and opportunities to hone their skills not less. even if there were . I would not want to see it . the MDL has been devalued enough with the inclusion of absolute no hopers , lets not make it into Billy smarts circus with cobbled together teams made up of anyone who owns any sort of speedway bike , this year is the death knell of amateur/development racing , so make the most of it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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