TheScotsman Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Told you Mark was very good! Monarchs old boys 32 points for ippo - the rest 16! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 A very entertaining meeting with some good battles and passing in many heats both inside and out As for the new boys Riss was excellent and anything close to that for the rest of the season and it could help the feel good factor return whether we make the play offs or not Garcia really got stuck in and perhaps tried too hard. Justified his inclusion with a score that matched that totalled from both reserves together from most fuxtures to date Wallinger so far out of his depth I expected filming for Baywatch to take place in the interval 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) Well, it was a win but I really can't decide what to make of the performance. You can probably argue that without the changes we may well have lost that but surely Lakeside will be a much stiffer test which is worrying. Was that a much better performance than the Bears have been putting in this season or were we apart from Riss just too inconsistent again at the top end. What can you say about Wallinger - I never thought I would see a worse rider than Karol Baran in a Witches team but I did tonight. Was there really no thrusting young buck riding in the NL who was prepared to jump at the chance of six meetings in the CL to prove that he could cut it at that level? I know Drew Kemp was riding around on his own but he looked considerably quicker than Wallinger. Edited July 19, 2018 by JamesB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Karol Baran was a superstar compared to Andre Pollen and Jurgen Hultgren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Maybe none were asked, and maybe this chap is doing it cheap, very cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Let's hope Riss doesn't up his average too much, keep it low for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Maybe none were asked, and maybe this chap is doing it cheap, very cheap. Based on what I saw tonight, I hope he is paying us for the pleasure of having a few laps around Foxhall. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Let's hope Riss doesn't up his average too much, keep it low for next year. 5 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Let's hope Riss doesn't up his average too much, keep it low for next year. Rather a silly thought . Surely you would want your riders to score as many points as possible Isn't that what Speedway is about which is to win matches not only for your team but for your wages as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Win matches scoring as many points as possible? Oh yeah, you can see exactly that with the inclusion of wallbanger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 To be fair would’ve been a little more comfortable had nico not suffered a puncture when leading and if rory hadn’t cut nico off in 15 then he was going round both and would’ve been a 4-2 also stopping Redcar getting a point - although not a big win we were ahead from heat 1 and generally in control throughout, riss looked good all night, Garcia a good start and should get better on the Home track in the next few weeks I know Wallinger is a stop gap etc. But from what I’ve seen today the only points he’s gonna get will be inherited via exclusions and retirements - puts a lot of pressure on the other guys knowing we’ve either gotta win with 6 riders or 5 when running r/r for Danny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, mickthemuppet said: Rather a silly thought . Surely you would want your riders to score as many points as possible Isn't that what Speedway is about which is to win matches not only for your team but for your wages as well Not always the case.... a rider you want next year is better to be paired with one that isn't and make sure the wanted one finishes behind the other... Wallinger Watch..... His race time for his 3rd heat was 63.2 He came out after the meeting and fell off in 2nd go.... With plenty of time after the meeting I would have expected Garcia out too. Also riding around after the meeting was Drew Kemp and Matt Marson Edited July 19, 2018 by 2ndbendbeerhut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedway28 Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Very good meeting tonight, best I've seen at Foxhall for a while with plenty of passing. Redcar were good value for their point, Jorgensen particularly impressive. Possibly harshly done by with his heat 13 exclusion too, depending on the angle people saw. Berge and Jonas Andersen improved over the meeting, however Barker, whilst all action, looked slow and couldn't make much of the impact. The reserves struggled, never looked comfortable. For the Witches, Schlein, Covatti and Heeps all did a decent job. Covatti was unlucky with a puncture and Schlein cutting him off in heat 15 when he possibly thought he was Jorgensen. Mark Riss looks a very good signing at home, clearly very comfortable at Foxhall. Garcia tried hard, throwing himself around everywhere and I'm sure he'll improve around Foxhall which will be needed against higher quality reserve pairings. As for Wallinger, there isn't really much to say. I didn't expect him to score a point but watching a Championship rider having to free wheel into the bends in his first race was a new experience. He might get Redcar away next week but I'd be amazed if he's still in the side for the next home meeting. You have to feel for him as he's completely out of his depth, an incredible decision from the promotion which needs explaining. An 'enthusiastic approach' is certainly not a good enough reason to sign a rider! Tom Brennan, Nathan Stoneman, Josh Bailey and Ryan Kingsley are all clear, stronger options. I presume Bailey has an average so probably can't guest but the other three must be able too and I'm sure they won't turn down the opportunities at Foxhall. On a sidenote, really pleased to see Connor Mountain win the Top Gun Individual at Sheffield tonight. Congratulations Connor. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Positive stuff first. Good debuts for mark and coty and both contributed to a entertaining meeting. Despite Wallinger not scoring it was very refreshing to see him practicing after the meeting and trying to improve and learn the track. Our riders need to be aware of where their team mate is on track. Cam impeded Rory several times and Rory done the same to Nico. Now for a moan. When a ten year old lad asks a rider for his autograph and gets told to wait til after the winning parade and then the rider failed to even look at this lad and give his autograph even though he patiently waited for ten minutes. Its hard enough to attract younger people but to treat them like that is very poor. The riders need to remember who pays their wages because soon there will be nobody left. A quick signature means so much and the riders become heroes with these youngsters but this experience has left a very sour taste 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkendlass Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 I was hoping for a point tonight, and so it turned out. Although never leading, the Bears hung on in there which hasn't been the case for a good while. Atoned a little after last Thursday's horror show v Edinburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: Positive stuff first. Good debuts for mark and coty and both contributed to a entertaining meeting. Despite Wallinger not scoring it was very refreshing to see him practicing after the meeting and trying to improve and learn the track. Our riders need to be aware of where their team mate is on track. Cam impeded Rory several times and Rory done the same to Nico. Now for a moan. When a ten year old lad asks a rider for his autograph and gets told to wait til after the winning parade and then the rider failed to even look at this lad and give his autograph even though he patiently waited for ten minutes. Its hard enough to attract younger people but to treat them like that is very poor. The riders need to remember who pays their wages because soon there will be nobody left. A quick signature means so much and the riders become heroes with these youngsters but this experience has left a very sour taste Riders moan that they get no track time. But when available to them they mostly pass it up. So is a nice change that Wallinger came out. Regards your 2nd point....Seems it the attitude of anyone in the sport.... the fans should be grateful to them for allowing us to be part of their life... Pretty easy to guess who you mean... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yearbyred Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, Speedway28 said: Very good meeting tonight, best I've seen at Foxhall for a while with plenty of passing. Redcar were good value for their point, Jorgensen particularly impressive. Possibly harshly done by with his heat 13 exclusion too, depending on the angle people saw. Berge and Jonas Andersen improved over the meeting, however Barker, whilst all action, looked slow and couldn't make much of the impact. The reserves struggled, never looked comfortable. For the Witches, Schlein, Covatti and Heeps all did a decent job. Covatti was unlucky with a puncture and Schlein cutting him off in heat 15 when he possibly thought he was Jorgensen. Mark Riss looks a very good signing at home, clearly very comfortable at Foxhall. Garcia tried hard, throwing himself around everywhere and I'm sure he'll improve around Foxhall which will be needed against higher quality reserve pairings. As for Wallinger, there isn't really much to say. I didn't expect him to score a point but watching a Championship rider having to free wheel into the bends in his first race was a new experience. He might get Redcar away next week but I'd be amazed if he's still in the side for the next home meeting. You have to feel for him as he's completely out of his depth, an incredible decision from the promotion which needs explaining. An 'enthusiastic approach' is certainly not a good enough reason to sign a rider! Tom Brennan, Nathan Stoneman, Josh Bailey and Ryan Kingsley are all clear, stronger options. I presume Bailey has an average so probably can't guest but the other three must be able too and I'm sure they won't turn down the opportunities at Foxhall. On a sidenote, really pleased to see Connor Mountain win the Top Gun Individual at Sheffield tonight. Congratulations Connor. Nice to see a reply that mentions that the Bears actually took part in the meeting. Was beginning to think I’d imagined it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Yearbyred said: Nice to see a reply that mentions that the Bears actually took part in the meeting. Was beginning to think I’d imagined it Fair comment and apologies - think with the whirlwind week of changes Witches fans are just very much caught up in their own bubble The Bears were deserving of their point without really threatening to take away any more All got stuck in and had their moments with Jorgensen particularly impressing A decent meeting and they are only possible when both teams play a part 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 roll on next week eh .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 11 hours ago, Speedway28 said: Very good meeting tonight, best I've seen at Foxhall for a while with plenty of passing. Redcar were good value for their point, Jorgensen particularly impressive. Possibly harshly done by with his heat 13 exclusion too, depending on the angle people saw. Berge and Jonas Andersen improved over the meeting, however Barker, whilst all action, looked slow and couldn't make much of the impact. The reserves struggled, never looked comfortable. For the Witches, Schlein, Covatti and Heeps all did a decent job. Covatti was unlucky with a puncture and Schlein cutting him off in heat 15 when he possibly thought he was Jorgensen. Mark Riss looks a very good signing at home, clearly very comfortable at Foxhall. Garcia tried hard, throwing himself around everywhere and I'm sure he'll improve around Foxhall which will be needed against higher quality reserve pairings. As for Wallinger, there isn't really much to say. I didn't expect him to score a point but watching a Championship rider having to free wheel into the bends in his first race was a new experience. He might get Redcar away next week but I'd be amazed if he's still in the side for the next home meeting. You have to feel for him as he's completely out of his depth, an incredible decision from the promotion which needs explaining. An 'enthusiastic approach' is certainly not a good enough reason to sign a rider! Tom Brennan, Nathan Stoneman, Josh Bailey and Ryan Kingsley are all clear, stronger options. I presume Bailey has an average so probably can't guest but the other three must be able too and I'm sure they won't turn down the opportunities at Foxhall. On a sidenote, really pleased to see Connor Mountain win the Top Gun Individual at Sheffield tonight. Congratulations Connor. There's only 2 people in the universe who think Wallinger is Championship level . himself and before last night , Chris Louis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 I'm guessing there was no sign of a new noise making drum for the Massif last night then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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