DC2 Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Poole’s wheelings and dealings now give them a team that would have had a starting average at the beginning of the season of 46.74. Swindon have been forced to make one change and their team would have been 41.93. Poole have now used 12 riders. Is it fair to allow a team to make so many changes and to gain a 5 point advantage over what might be temporary losses of form? Should teams be allowed no more than two tactical changes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 All within the rules! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 more blah blah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted July 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Steve0 said: All within the rules! That’s the point. Should the rules be changed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 minute ago, DC2 said: That’s the point. Should the rules be changed? AGAIN? Torn up more like. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 They must be fair. It's Poole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, waytogo28 said: They must be fair. It's Poole. this is guaranteed another 500 pages ITS POOLE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted July 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Poole have only three riders of their original seven and have dropped the other four in tactical switches, not due to injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, DC2 said: Poole have only three riders of their original seven and have dropped the other four in tactical switches, not due to injury. the holder situation was out of there hands, and sundstrom asked to be dropped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) Removing Poole from the argument (is not all about them all the time) I think there should be a maximum number of changes per season. Back in 2002 Wagstaff used twenty odd riders across the season and it was ridiculous, it was impossible to bond with most of the team as they kept getting replaced. Operate squads if need be but any more than three or four non injury changes is too many. Edited July 15, 2018 by Bagpuss 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldRacer Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, Arthur54 said: the holder situation was out of there hands, and sundstrom asked to be dropped Still not convinced about that. "Linus, we are bringing in Harris. Do you want to say you asked to be dropped or should we tell everyone you were canned?" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted July 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Arthur54 said: the holder situation was out of there hands, and sundstrom asked to be dropped I haven’t counted Holder and even if we believe the line about Sundstrom it falls outside an injury replacement and so should be one of a limited number of tactical changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 I would change the present day for the 70s 80s any day, you might get the odd change but all in all it was the bulk of the team year after year, you would get that bond with the riders 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted July 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, Arthur54 said: I would change the present day for the 70s 80s any day, you might get the odd change but all in all it was the bulk of the team year after year, you would get that bond with the riders Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 40 minutes ago, DC2 said: Poole’s wheelings and dealings now give them a team that would have had a starting average at the beginning of the season of 46.74. Swindon have been forced to make one change and their team would have been 41.93. Poole have now used 12 riders. Is it fair to allow a team to make so many changes and to gain a 5 point advantage over what might be temporary losses of form? Should teams be allowed no more than two tactical changes? Yes it is fair and team changes should never be restricted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 hour ago, DC2 said: Poole’s wheelings and dealings now give them a team that would have had a starting average at the beginning of the season of 46.74. Swindon have been forced to make one change and their team would have been 41.93. Poole have now used 12 riders. Is it fair to allow a team to make so many changes and to gain a 5 point advantage over what might be temporary losses of form? Should teams be allowed no more than two tactical changes? Why you moaning DC, its all above board and they all come in on the correct averages or below.. If you are a little concered that we might just steel you thunder have a word with Rosco, perhaps he can chuck a couple of your riders out just to appease you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 37 minutes ago, OldRacer said: Still not convinced about that. "Linus, we are bringing in Harris. Do you want to say you asked to be dropped or should we tell everyone you were canned?" Think you are mixing speedway promoters and the british government up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted July 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, Starman2006 said: Why you moaning DC, its all above board and they all come in on the correct averages or below.. If you are a little concered that we might just steel you thunder have a word with Rosco, perhaps he can chuck a couple of your riders out just to appease you... Quite the contrary. I’m in favour of teams keeping as many riders as possible. Poole change their team every month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) Surely its what any team s;port is about - if riders are out of form or not producing the goods you change them within whatever window of opportunity exists, with another who you hope will improve the team's performance. Speedway is only complicated by having averages!! If you have a striker in football or a good run-maker in cricket who isn't scoring then you replace them - either temporarily in the hope they can reclaim their form - or permanently. Edited July 15, 2018 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted July 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Surely its what any team sport is about .... ... except other team sports are a financial free for all and not based on team building averages and the notion of “equalisation”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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