Vince Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 I thought the article in the Star was excellent and when Peter Oakes talks about Speedway it's a good time to stop talking and listen. I doubt if there is anybody on here who has seen Speedway from as many angles as Peter and he's a clever bloke as well. He won't have just pulled the name ha suggests out of a hat, he clearly knows the man and thinks he could do a good job (as always that's if he was allowed to). For me that is a good enough recommendation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 45 minutes ago, Vince said: I thought the article in the Star was excellent and when Peter Oakes talks about Speedway it's a good time to stop talking and listen. I doubt if there is anybody on here who has seen Speedway from as many angles as Peter and he's a clever bloke as well. He won't have just pulled the name ha suggests out of a hat, he clearly knows the man and thinks he could do a good job (as always that's if he was allowed to). For me that is a good enough recommendation. how long after the appointment would it be .before the secret meetings of the old guard with their own interests at heart ? anybody who tries to treat speedway like a real sport ,soon falls foul of the old guard , Sandhu . BMR , rick frost , next up will be glasgow mark my words 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, adonis said: how long after the appointment would it be .before the secret meetings of the old guard with their own interests at heart ? anybody who tries to treat speedway like a real sport ,soon falls foul of the old guard , Sandhu . BMR , rick frost , next up will be glasgow mark my words Although I dream about one person ( or a small committee ) running UK speedway I cannot see the Old Guard letting control out of their hands. If they could have done, they would have acted 5 years ago. They see no need, as I think they still believe they can turn it around. They would rather see it all crumble than allow someone else to take all the key decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 7 hours ago, iainb said: ... But what has Jonathan Chapman ever done for Speedway? I think he did quite a bit to help Leicester get going , in fact I'm sure I heard at one time he was to be the promoter , sadly Hemsley got his feet under the table , and a blank canvas with a fair old crowd and potential to be great went to waste 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, adonis said: how long after the appointment would it be .before the secret meetings of the old guard with their own interests at heart ? anybody who tries to treat speedway like a real sport ,soon falls foul of the old guard , Sandhu . BMR , rick frost , next up will be glasgow mark my words Maybe even those who have delivered the Sport to where we are have finally, after twenty or so years of nonsense, realised that their operating model, (which as a collective they are 100% responsible for), is boll.... (not very good)... Or maybe not getting the Sky Money any more to mask the nonsense put in front of the fans for far too long has focused their attention?? Either way, now they may actually start to listen to ideas from 'outsiders', eg the likes of Glasgow and Belle Vue (and of course the fans)... Edited July 15, 2018 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 I think Mr Chapman is/was a poster on this forum, I am hoping if he sees this thread he will give his own thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, mikebv said: Maybe even those who have delivered the Sport to where we are have finally, after twenty or so years of nonsense, realised that their operating model, (which as a collective they are 100% responsible for), is boll.... (not very good)... Or maybe not getting the Sky Money any more to mask the nonsense put in front of the fans for far too long has focused their attention?? Either way, now they may actually start to listen to ideas from 'outsiders', eg the likes of Glasgow and Belle Vue (and of course the fans)... we can only hope , past records don't indicate any reason why we should though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 9 hours ago, Star Lady said: Conversely, what have the fans making suggestions on this thread ever done? JC did a fair bit for Lynn whilst he was a promoter, the publicity, presentation etc have never been better in my 50+ years following the sport. He also brought about the Super Sevens which many fans thought a step forward. He probably did more but it's too hot to argue I' m not saying he's the best person for the job, or even if he wants it, but to suggest he has done nothing is incorrect. I honestly don't think he has ever done anything to adversely affect the sport. I'm not having a pop at the guy, I just wondered why the op thinks he's going to be the saviour... I remember the super7 series, I'll take your word for the KL promotion... Does he have the respect of many people in the sport... Like Colin Pratt and Peter Oakes for example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, iainb said: I'm not having a pop at the guy, I just wondered why the op thinks he's going to be the saviour... I remember the super7 series, I'll take your word for the KL promotion... Does he have the respect of many people in the sport... Like Colin Pratt and Peter Oakes for example? You would have to ask them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Star Lady said: You would have to ask them. I kind of am 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, iainb said: I kind of am Maybe Philip Rising might have some idea.....whether he will share I know not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 On 7/14/2018 at 3:17 PM, Byker Biker said: There have been some good business people with proven sales and marketing skills in Speedway in the last decade but unfortunately were driven out by the win at all costs brigade. They win at all costs mentalitists were never into the long term just who or how hard they could shaft the opposition using everything except 4 laps on a Speedway bike to achieve it. This confuses me. Firstly, who are the “good business people with proven sales and marketing skills” because I can’t think of any that have been driven out in the last decade? Secondly, if there are any, how can the “win at all cost mentalists” not be in it for the long term if they have been driving people out in the last decade? I can’t think of more than one person, Rick Frost, who might just fulfil your criteria. You’re not suggesting Chris Morton and David Gordon, Steve Jenson, David Hemsley or, heaven forfend Trump and Sandhu can be defined that way, surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Why have they stopped calling it the super se7en , I thought that sounded good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 15 minutes ago, bruno said: Why have they stopped calling it the super se7en , I thought that sounded good Arithmetic There aren’t 7 (or se7en) shared events nowadays. Even then, there were only six (but si6x looks wrong) so they added the under 21 for marketing purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Sorry for late reply to this thread, but it was hidden away under a section I don't often look at. I don't think raising funding is the issue anymore as the only way to take the sport forward is to start from ground zero. This essentially means an amateur/semi pro sport which is run by promoters who want to rebuild speedway as a sport with 'grit' which every working person in this country can afford to be part of. I believe speedway needs an entrepreneurial type of leader to take this challenge forward, one with a track record in sport and business would certainly be helpful. Whilst truly flattered at the suggestion I am the person for this, I am restricted within my employment terms as Chief Executive of the British Assessment Bureau to take on ANY additional roles of responsibility (professional or non professional) without board approval. However, I would and could, happily offer my services as an unofficial advisor to a person or group who wished to take this challenge on. Hope that helps. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 When you look back to when the sport was last in dire straights along came Mike Parker and soon after we had the boom years of the 70,s and 80,s so it can be done, where are we going to find another MP that is the question. JC does have some good ideas and im sure would be a very good asset in an advisory capacity as stated above. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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