Stoke Potter Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, ch958 said: after Swindon last night we're better off keeping it a secret Exactly! Any Marketing of the current offering will only hasten the demise of the sport in this country... Fix the tracks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) Speedway promoters are funny, though. They cancel an evening meeting when England plays a football match earlier in the day but don't believe the crowd will drop when there's a live speedway game on TV at the same time. Edited July 24, 2018 by moxey63 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Shoe Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Icicle said: Key words there are " PROPER MARKETING &ADVERTISING". The key words should be Entertainment and Value For Money. No point marketing and advertising if the product isn't good. Edited July 24, 2018 by Hot Shoe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 7 hours ago, mikebv said: Before it truly is too late... It truly is too late. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 15 hours ago, Hot Shoe said: The key words should be Entertainment and Value For Money. No point marketing and advertising if the product isn't good. And certainly don’t ever show that sort of crap live on TV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 54 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: And certainly don’t ever show that sort of crap live on TV Pointless in having live speedway on TV of that quality. Any casual viewer who stumbled across it might wonder how much the people were paid to stand and watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwayTShirts Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 In my opinion, which is not that highly regarded..... Speedway needs to become staged and treated as a form of entertainment more so than a sport. Not necessarily from a results point of view but definitely from a rivalry point of view with staged banter, fights between riders / team managers, pre match enticing, after match aggro etc. Virtually the same as wrestling which is thriving all over the world packing the likes of Cardiff on a weekly basis in the USA. Most importantly new fans need to be found to support speedway. If you say the average age of a speedway fan is about 50, then the life of the sport here in the UK is 30 years max. Without new fans flocking in, and I do mean flocking in then the sport is doomed. If we can't compete with what's on offer entertainment wise in 2018 what hope do we have in another 5 or 10 years. Time for big changes or time to accept the best days are behind us and thank the lord that we have the memories of better times, when we were kids etc and went to busy stadiums with atmospheres and craved the next visit. Nothing else to add, but nice to be slightly involved again this year and I've actually booked the day off next year to take the family to Cardiff to show them what speedway used to be like and the buzz it gave you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spl77 Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 22 hours ago, ChrisSimpson said: In my opinion, which is not that highly regarded..... Speedway needs to become staged and treated as a form of entertainment more so than a sport. Not necessarily from a results point of view but definitely from a rivalry point of view with staged banter, fights between riders / team managers, pre match enticing, after match aggro etc. Virtually the same as wrestling which is thriving all over the world packing the likes of Cardiff on a weekly basis in the USA. Most importantly new fans need to be found to support speedway. If you say the average age of a speedway fan is about 50, then the life of the sport here in the UK is 30 years max. Without new fans flocking in, and I do mean flocking in then the sport is doomed. If we can't compete with what's on offer entertainment wise in 2018 what hope do we have in another 5 or 10 years. Time for big changes or time to accept the best days are behind us and thank the lord that we have the memories of better times, when we were kids etc and went to busy stadiums with atmospheres and craved the next visit. Nothing else to add, but nice to be slightly involved again this year and I've actually booked the day off next year to take the family to Cardiff to show them what speedway used to be like and the buzz it gave you. There used to be plenty of inter team rivalry and riders having fisty cuffs however that difficult for that to happen when the following night those riders could be in the same team. For that to happen you need to return to 7 riders 1 team end of. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 I think it was the other night in that True Grit documentary, Nigel Pearson stating a rider could be racing one night for the same team and in opposition the next. Had I been a casual observer, I'd have ditched any thought of getting serious about such a silly sport. To blame riders having to earn a living for such an oddity is bowing too much to the riders who must be wanting the sport to fund them all year through. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singy13 Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, moxey63 said: I think it was the other night in that True Grit documentary, Nigel Pearson stating a rider could be racing one night for the same team and in opposition the next. Had I been a casual observer, I'd have ditched any thought of getting serious about such a silly sport. To blame riders having to earn a living for such an oddity is bowing too much to the riders who must be wanting the sport to fund them all year through. I'll never forget sticking up for Speedway when the Workington RL club Directors were slating the sport during a coach journey with them.....speedway, incidentally, did bring much needed earnings to the RL hosts...(maybe still does?). However to a man they were convinced that Speedway was seriously unreal....the example they touted as their evidence was when Stoney had guested, and scored well, for Newcastle who were challenging the Comets for honours, how could that happen?...They wouldn't wear the 'guest' system at all.......and maybe other non fans see it similarily.?? Edited July 28, 2018 by singy13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, singy13 said: I'll never forget sticking up for Speedway when the Workington RL club Directors were slating the sport during a coach journey with them.....speedway, incidentally, did bring much needed earnings to the RL hosts...(maybe still does?). However to a man they were convinced that Speedway was seriously unreal....the example they touted as their evidence was when Stoney had guested, and scored well, for Newcastle who were challenging the Comets for honours, how could that happen?...They wouldn't wear the 'guest' system at all.......and maybe other non fans see it similarily.?? Plenty of 'actual' fans see it that way too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singy13 Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) 35 minutes ago, foamfence said: Plenty of 'actual' fans see it that way too. Yes I agree.......it's just something that's been in place many years, a difficult prob, and we fans tend to accept it while ignoring what 'outsiders' think? I mean we turn the proverbial 'blind eye' to the situation because of loving the sport ! Edited July 28, 2018 by singy13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 Somebody may have mentioned this already and if so, sorry for the repeat. Large branches of Sainsbury's stock SS, at least my local does so I guess other branches do too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post E I Addio Posted July 28, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 If the hijackers will now let us get this thread back in line with its title, it is interesting that Speedway Star have devoted a whole page to an interview with Rob Godfrey and he has simply used it to blame everyone but himself for the trouble he has caused in having fixtures removed from the fixture list. Fixtures, that is, that Godfrey and his (mis) Management Committee, had approved before the season started and the fans relied on. This is the problem with this blinkered shower on the Management Committee (and I use the term "management " in its loosest possible sense) , they are apparently unaware that the sport is on its knees and each time they mess up in this way, more fans walk away. It really is a disgrace and unacceptable for the person whose committee is supposed to be running the sport , to blame other people for the problem he caused. If Scunthorpe hadn't needed guests none of this would have arisen. Still at least we have a member of the (mis) Management Committee acknowledging there is a problem. Until now we have simply had fixtures being pulled out of the list and a month of conspicuous silence from the MC, who have carried on as if nothing had happened, completely ignoring the fans.. I doubt whether Godfrey and his mates could run a stall in a Women's institute jumble say successfully. Incompetent beyond belief 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 Exactly..... here’s a poor fixture list at the start of the season....oh well change it....er no well change it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisperer Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 50 minutes ago, E I Addio said: If the hijackers will now let us get this thread back in line with its title, it is interesting that Speedway Star have devoted a whole page to an interview with Rob Godfrey and he has simply used it to blame everyone but himself for the trouble he has caused in having fixtures removed from the fixture list. Fixtures, that is, that Godfrey and his (mis) Management Committee, had approved before the season started and the fans relied on. This is the problem with this blinkered shower on the Management Committee (and I use the term "management " in its loosest possible sense) , they are apparently unaware that the sport is on its knees and each time they mess up in this way, more fans walk away. It really is a disgrace and unacceptable for the person whose committee is supposed to be running the sport , to blame other people for the problem he caused. If Scunthorpe hadn't needed guests none of this would have arisen. Still at least we have a member of the (mis) Management Committee acknowledging there is a problem. Until now we have simply had fixtures being pulled out of the list and a month of conspicuous silence from the MC, who have carried on as if nothing had happened, completely ignoring the fans.. I doubt whether Godfrey and his mates could run a stall in a Women's institute jumble say successfully. Incompetent beyond belief They could sell their engines on that stall! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 11 hours ago, E I Addio said: If the hijackers will now let us get this thread back in line with its title, it is interesting that Speedway Star have devoted a whole page to an interview with Rob Godfrey and he has simply used it to blame everyone but himself for the trouble he has caused in having fixtures removed from the fixture list. Fixtures, that is, that Godfrey and his (mis) Management Committee, had approved before the season started and the fans relied on. This is the problem with this blinkered shower on the Management Committee (and I use the term "management " in its loosest possible sense) , they are apparently unaware that the sport is on its knees and each time they mess up in this way, more fans walk away. It really is a disgrace and unacceptable for the person whose committee is supposed to be running the sport , to blame other people for the problem he caused. If Scunthorpe hadn't needed guests none of this would have arisen. Still at least we have a member of the (mis) Management Committee acknowledging there is a problem. Until now we have simply had fixtures being pulled out of the list and a month of conspicuous silence from the MC, who have carried on as if nothing had happened, completely ignoring the fans.. I doubt whether Godfrey and his mates could run a stall in a Women's institute jumble say successfully. Incompetent beyond belief I truly do not think they incompetent, they are corrupt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, E I Addio said: If the hijackers will now let us get this thread back in line with its title, it is interesting that Speedway Star have devoted a whole page to an interview with Rob Godfrey and he has simply used it to blame everyone but himself for the trouble he has caused in having fixtures removed from the fixture list. Fixtures, that is, that Godfrey and his (mis) Management Committee, had approved before the season started and the fans relied on. This is the problem with this blinkered shower on the Management Committee (and I use the term "management " in its loosest possible sense) , they are apparently unaware that the sport is on its knees and each time they mess up in this way, more fans walk away. It really is a disgrace and unacceptable for the person whose committee is supposed to be running the sport , to blame other people for the problem he caused. If Scunthorpe hadn't needed guests none of this would have arisen. Still at least we have a member of the (mis) Management Committee acknowledging there is a problem. Until now we have simply had fixtures being pulled out of the list and a month of conspicuous silence from the MC, who have carried on as if nothing had happened, completely ignoring the fans.. I doubt whether Godfrey and his mates could run a stall in a Women's institute jumble say successfully. Incompetent beyond belief Incompetence is one thing, self interest is another. This is far more about the latter, and that's much less forgivable. Edited July 29, 2018 by Halifaxtiger 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 Reading Godfreys article in the SS it looks like when he sobered up after the AGM he realised the rest had just pulled a flanker on him ,but has just brassed it out hoping it would sort it's self out. Bad luck Rob,it hasn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 MANY years ago the then Chairman of the SCB told me that it was easy to impose discipline on promoters because most of them were leaving meetings with shed loads of money in their car boots and the thought of losing their licence ensured they toed the line. Now, any threats are likely to be met with "we will close." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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