Popular Post PHILIPRISING Posted July 12, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 THE BSPA General Council met on Tuesday at a time when speedway in the UK is in crisis. But, as usual, no word from the inner chambers of ACU House in Rugby. We are not allowed to know what they discussed, what plans they have afoot or any decisions made. They have become the ultimate secret society. And yet they wonder (maybe they don't) why the paying public, on whom they depend, despair and are deserting the sport in their droves. Are they interested in what British fans, those that are left, are prepared to pay to watch? 21 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: THE BSPA General Council met on Tuesday at a time when speedway in the UK is in crisis. But, as usual, no word from the inner chambers of ACU House in Rugby. We are not allowed to know what they discussed, what plans they have afoot or any decisions made. They have become the ultimate secret society. And yet they wonder (maybe they don't) why the paying public, on whom they depend, despair and are deserting the sport in their droves. Are they interested in what British fans, those that are left, are prepared to pay to watch? Couldn't agree more with this or the sentiment of disappointment/being aghast. T*T$ up is the right phrase I think. shame because it's a great sport and I loved being a part of it. Oh for a Barry Hearn type figure. By the way, shame about SS and WH Smith, it's where I get mine as they're at the train station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 Your despair voiced here and in The Star today is totally understandable. But one thing we all have to face is that they haven't got a clue what to do. so putting that in a press release would be pretty pointless. A note handed out by the BSPA saying 'We're all doomed!' would be accurate ... But not tell us anything we don't already know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 MAYBE they could at least tell us what they hope might be the answer and gauge public reaction before it is too late. For what it is worth, one league seems to be firmly on the table. Swindon promoter Terry Russell makes some really good points in SS this week, especially about CL tracks living off the backs of PL ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: Couldn't agree more with this or the sentiment of disappointment/being aghast. T*T$ up is the right phrase I think. shame because it's a great sport and I loved being a part of it. Oh for a Barry Hearn type figure. By the way, shame about SS and WH Smith, it's where I get mine as they're at the train station. EMAIl star@pinegen.co.uk with your address or where you purchase and we will see what alternatives there are. It is a gamble for us but the intransigence of WH Smith towards not only Pinegen but other small publishers is shameful. Ultimately they will suffer and probably help hasten their demise which is already on the cards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argos Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 As Nigel Pearson is the official Press Officer of the BSPA would not the SS call him for a Statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPD444 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 26 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: THE BSPA General Council met on Tuesday at a time when speedway in the UK is in crisis. But, as usual, no word from the inner chambers of ACU House in Rugby. We are not allowed to know what they discussed, what plans they have afoot or any decisions made. They have become the ultimate secret society. And yet they wonder (maybe they don't) why the paying public, on whom they depend, despair and are deserting the sport in their droves. Are they interested in what British fans, those that are left, are prepared to pay to watch? What is the make up of this General Council, do we know who sits on it, how they get to be appointed; who do they report to; what is their mandate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, Argos said: As Nigel Pearson is the official Press Officer of the BSPA would not the SS call him for a Statement NIGEL can only put out what the BSPA will agree to ... which amounts to nothing as far as their meetings are concerned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, SPD444 said: What is the make up of this General Council, do we know who sits on it, how they get to be appointed; who do they report to; what is their mandate. ALL licensed promoters of every club can attend a General Council meeting. But not all (BV for example) have a vote. That is denied until the current promotion has held a licence for three years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: NIGEL can only put out what the BSPA will agree to ... which amounts to nothing as far as their meetings are concerned. You sense that promoters act like a group of spotty teenagers that gather regularly at one of their homes to play the old style tabletop speedway games, doing it purely for self-fulfilment and to have a sense of power, locked in a little bubble that only they know about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, moxey63 said: You sense that promoters act like a group of spotty teenagers that gather regularly at one of their homes to play the old style tabletop speedway games, doing it purely for self-fulfilment and to have a sense of power, locked in a little bubble that only they know about. That is a good summing of how the last 20 years have been run ( if that is a word that could be applied to what has gone on ). Locked in a little bubble that only they know about AND foolishly they believe they are "doing their best". The SS gets it right this time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 Very disappointed with today's Star. Nowhere near enough hard hitting comment and investigation in to the current crisis. I get that Oakes is an accomplished journalist but he's been on the other side of the fence too much here. Quoting a tweet from a fan as the lead article isn't enough in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 The way they handled the Rye House failure , just shows that as an Association they are clueless , other associations do all they can to help anyone struggling , not just sit back and say oh dear that's' a shame , still thanks for the bond and the rest of your assets , once we have had a decent share out ourselves we'll see if there's anything left to pay the riders what is owed , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke Potter Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 No announcement probably means no agreement, they are still squabbling about something or other! Can the routes of the present day crisis be traced back to the time the RAC ceased having any control/interest in the sport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, PHILIPRISING said: MAYBE they could at least tell us what they hope might be the answer and gauge public reaction before it is too late. For what it is worth, one league seems to be firmly on the table. Unfortunately a 'one league solution' is only ever taken when there is no real alternative. It is, in itself, an indication of there not being any good answer. Not even a least worse. Just the only, quite pitiful one, we can take. But just as in the nineties it will only shift the problems from one place to another. There won't be enough riders to go round, there will be unbalanced teams, very uncompetitive races between the best and the worst riders and any extra financial burden placed on the lower tier clubs will kill them. Perhaps the only route. But not one to salvation. Edited July 12, 2018 by Grand Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 I think that by the end of this season the sport in this country will have reach a crossroads, and depending on which way the BSPA turns depends on whether the sport will flourish or quietly die. For me I think that we now need for the BSPA to relinquish control and hand running and the rules over to either one or two persons. For me two names jump out that have or have had connections with the sport. The first Jonathon Chapman Brash, Cocky, massive ego and not everybody's cup of tea, but has a bit of the entrepreneur about him and for me has the vision to take the sport forward into modern day. Alongside him Neil Machin Steady hand, vastly experienced Speedway Promoter, paid all of his bills, rent and riders on time and never owed any money, would be the perfect foil for Jonathon Chapman. For me that would be the Dream Team, not too sure whether or not the brash Essex Boy and the blunt Yorkshireman would work together but for they are the two that could rescue the sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, Grand Central said: any extra financial burden placed on the lower tier clubs will kill them. well in that case it has to be set up to suit them ,not Wolves or Poole we're entering survival mode now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 A honest and hard hitting account of the state of British Speedway in the Star this week, will the BSPA listen and act. Will some person or group be enlisted to make concrete decisions for the future of the sport as highlighted in the Speedway Star item, my personal opinion no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 Reading the "star" today 2 stories jump out at me , mr woffy going on about british speedway is a monday night sport and how well poland and sweden do on fixed nights then in the next breath saying he is on stirke in sweden because he isnt getting paid! Then we have mr god( i want this sport to run the way i want or i aint playing)frey refusing to ride at newcastle at 12 on sunday despite being at berwick the night before, we need someone with balls to lead this sport to stop stupid decisions like this before there is nothing left . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 43 minutes ago, Grand Central said: Unfortunately a 'one league solution' is only ever taken when there is no real alternative. It is, in itself, an indication of there not being any good answer. Not even a least worse. Just the only, quite pitiful one, we can take. But just as in the nineties it will only shift the problems from one place to another. There won't be enough riders to go round, there will be unbalanced teams, very uncompetitive races between the best and the worst riders and any extra financial burden placed on the lower tier clubs will kill them. Perhaps the only route. But not one to salvation. You're right this will buy 2 seasons unless 5 or 6 clubs close then there will be a reasonable standard of riders available for those that are left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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