Buxton v Brummies NT Sun 8th July

[Scott Cassell]

8 minutes ago, Argos said:

So basically the Ref said Lawrence Rogers is a liar when he said he had written confirmation off the BSPA saying Mr Flint senior could ride ?

I think he said he first heard of it at 10.20 this morning, when it was referred to the BSPA. The BSPA then made the decision.

[Jayne]

So where is this written confirmation then? If Laurence Rogers had it he would have produced it, he was asked to,  but declined, and said he would do it later. Not sure when later is but we are all still waiting. 

 

[skydog]

3 hours ago, adonis said:

managed to find 2 in the end though   . william \I'll ride anywhere anytime for anybody , and this Sheldon Davies , and it looks like they may have unearthed a bit of a gem in the process , 

shouldn't young riders trying to make their mark be willing to ride anywhere for anyone?

[adonis]

14 minutes ago, skydog said:

shouldn't young riders trying to make their mark be willing to ride anywhere for anyone?

yes they should . and 2 of them had an opportunity to do just that today , both had a good day as far as i can see 

 

[cinderfella]

Quote from Buxton team manager after the meeting " James (Cockle) struggled early on and got caught out by the track a couple of times, but as the meeting went on a gained in confidence and showed what he can do but after three months off the bike completely it was always going to be a hard afternoon for him!" 

So just what the hell did they expect from Gary Flint after being off a bike for 11 years?

Poor show Buxton and not in the spirit of the sport when someone offers to come out of retirement to ensure a team has 7 riders and fans aren't short changed

[Argos]

Jane as said the Sport is a joke, However a sport that is a joke stills needs rules and regulations, The licensed Promoter of Birmingham Speedway in an Official tweet states “ We have written confirmation off the BSPA confirming that Mr Flint could ride” All that Buxton Speedway are retesting is sight of that confirmation, not unreasonable, If it’s not forthcoming Lawrence Rogers is a liar, simple as.

[Sir Sidney]

Surely all Birmingham had to do was show the BSPA permission to the referee and that would have sorted it out. If they had written permission where would the argument have been? 

[adonis]

1 hour ago, Argos said:

So basically the Ref said Lawrence Rogers is a liar when he said he had written confirmation off the BSPA saying Mr Flint senior could ride ?

correct and Lawrence has the opportunity to  prove he's not . all he needs to do is show the paperwork .  if i had been accused of being a liar by more than 1 person and had paperwork to prove otherwise  ,I wouldn't be writing press releases trying to make excuses , I would simply show the evidence  as most people would 

[Guest GiveusaB]

Perhaps he only had verbal consent and the paperwork was on its way (knowing how slow the BSPA work)

Who really cares ???

Edited July 9, 2018 by GiveusaB

[adonis]

8 minutes ago, Richard Weston said:

Of course Birmingham have form. Tried it on at Eastbourne a couple of years back over trying to use James Shanes when he was ineligible 

different  promoter and manager though ,   this one has form of it's own , trying to use  a Pole  in the team , 

[Brummiestormer]

1 hour ago, Richard Weston said:

Of course Birmingham have form. Tried it on at Eastbourne a couple of years back over trying to use James Shanes when he was ineligible 

What a surprise Brummie hater and total one eyed idiot Richard Weston shows up....

[balderdash&piffle]

Purely because I am a suspicious sod.

I think Birmingham did it just to wind up Buxton, if Gazza had ridden would certainly have weakened Birmingham.  I sponsored Gazza and wanted my name on the bottom of his engine, so I could see it more often when he fell off between  the 3rd and 4th bend.

By the way Birmingham certainly succeeded in winding the fans up at least.

[Guest GiveusaB]

Just glad we've set up a winner takes all affair against a league select side using the name 'Cradley ' ! 

Even more positive was to see the 'guest' reserves do so well....?

I don't feel so deflated by the loss of Layne now!?

[adonis]

6 minutes ago, Richard Weston said:

Typical of Birmingham supporters: they play the man not the ball.

Why don't you address the issue instead of being rude about someone who points out a fact?

You have the opportunity to refute my assertion; argue differently (it is a forum, after all) but all you do is throw out an insult.

 

 

plenty of that sort on these forums .  

[adonis]

5 hours ago, GiveusaB said:

Perhaps he only had verbal consent and the paperwork was on its way (knowing how slow the BSPA work)

Who really cares ???

according to facebook . when he was asked he said it was in his car  .  you cant keep a verbal agreement in the glove box 

[Guest GiveusaB]

2 minutes ago, adonis said:

according to facebook . when he was asked he said it was in his car  .  you cant keep a verbal agreement in the glove box 

I have my doubts about the appointment of Mr Rogers as manager.....he's not coming across as very professional ?

I could be wrong....but my instincts tell me not to trust someone of his nature!

I hope the name of Birmingham Speedway doesn't get dragged through the mud because of people trying to cheat?

[Guest GiveusaB]

4 hours ago, Richard Weston said:

Of course Birmingham have form. Tried it on at Eastbourne a couple of years back over trying to use James Shanes when he was ineligible 

This was a 'guest' technicality that Drury appeared to have over looked ? (using same guest twice in 7/8 days?) we could have used an equally as good a guest if he'd of had any brains?

and it wouldn't have made any difference to the final outcome (we were always going to lose over 2 legs). The only people that were robbed that day was the paying spectators ....forcing Birmingham to field an already weakened team!

However, for you to bring it up is rather petty....thought you'd of got over 1974, 2015/16 by now??? or is the Bridesmaid tag weighing you down ? 

 

[Argos]

55 minutes ago, GiveusaB said:

I have my doubts about the appointment of Mr Rogers as manager.....he's not coming across as very professional ?

I could be wrong....but my instincts tell me not to trust someone of his nature!

I hope the name of Birmingham Speedway doesn't get dragged through the mud because of people trying to cheat?

I agree, since he become Birmingham Promotor he try’s to sign a Polish Rider, States on the Birmingham forum that the Kent meeting will take place this Wednesday even if England are playing in the World Cup, then When England win he says the meeting will NOT take place, He is then proven to be a liar when he says he has written confirmation off the BSPA that old man Flint could ride, when in fact he never did.

Would be very surprised if he had the support of the Masons after these disasters  

 

  

[Leicester Hunter]

7 hours ago, Richard Weston said:

Of course Birmingham have form. Tried it on at Eastbourne a couple of years back over trying to use James Shanes when he was ineligible 

My view on that little episode is the same now as it was then. It was sheer stupidity. And to use the excuse of 'other teams have done just this several times already this year' was crass in the extreme. What an opportunity missed, a chance to do the treble thrown out of the window all because rules and regs were disregarded. Oh well, water under the bridge and all that.

However, more up to date, the furore over Gary Flint allowed Sheldon Davies to step in at the last moment, and put on a decent performance, by all accounts. I'd never heard of him before yesterday lunchtime. So, is he any good or not? Was yesterday afternoon's showing due to genuine flair and aptitude or the mediocre opposition, or perhaps maybe a combination of both? Either way, it looks like this lad deserves another outing with the team at the very least.

With that in mind, here's a note to the Birmingham management. If he's not already signed to another club (I haven't a clue whether he is or not), get his signature on a contract ASAP. He may have qualities which were sadly lacking in a recently departed member of the team: Application and commitment.

 

Edited July 9, 2018 by Leicester Hunter

[adonis]

16 minutes ago, Leicester Hunter said:

My view on that little episode is the same now as it was then. It was sheer stupidity. And to use the excuse of 'other teams have done just this several times already this year' was crass in the extreme. What an opportunity missed, a chance to do the treble thrown out of the window all because rules and regs were disregarded. Oh well, water under the bridge and all that.

However, more up to date, the furore over Gary Flint allowed Sheldon Davies to step in at the last moment, and put on a decent performance, by all accounts. I'd never heard of him before yesterday lunchtime. So, is he any good or not? Was yesterday afternoon's showing due to genuine flair and aptitude or the mediocre opposition, or perhaps maybe a combination of both? Either way, it looks like this lad deserves another outing with the team at the very least.

With that in mind, here's a note to the Birmingham management. If he's not already signed to another club (I haven't a clue whether he is or not), get his signature on a contract ASAP. He may have qualities which were sadly lacking in a recently departed member of the team: Application and commitment.

 

NL clubs are not allowed assets any more , the most Bham can do is get in first and offer him a place , even then if he decides to go elsewhere  he can do just that .