Shadders Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 4 hours ago, geoff100 said: Win loose or draw a speedway fan should allways turn up.week after week, i cant because of work but would never not go to derwent park when off work remember 1980 when we only won 2 matches its still your team support through thick and thin! Berwick aren’t my team, but it’s only 2 minutes drive from home and it’s something to do on a Saturday evening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Pod said: Doesn't look like they are doing anything at all. Strange set up, to think they can just turn up from one week to the next with virtually no preparation in between and expect the track to be right. You obviously don't see them down at the track during the week doing work and also Saturday mornings and afternoons then? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 12 hours ago, topsoil said: You obviously don't see them down at the track during the week doing work and also Saturday mornings and afternoons then? You can do as many hours as you like getting it wrong, it is still wrong. The second half of last season the track prep massively improved, at a guess probably NICK MORRIS insisting kt was prepared properly. I was being entertained, apart from the Glasgow meeting this year I have not been entertained. I have missed more meetings this year than in the 20 yrs I have been going to Berwick speedway. You take the kids out of the crowd on Saturday I doubt there were much more than 400 in attendance. Before someone jumps in and says kids are important they are the future, true, but they get in free, so without the old fa*rts like me paying to get in , then this business model is doomed to failure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penchev Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, balderdash&piffle said: You can do as many hours as you like getting it wrong, it is still wrong. The second half of last season the track prep massively improved, at a guess probably NICK MORRIS insisting kt was prepared properly. I was being entertained, apart from the Glasgow meeting this year I have not been entertained. I have missed more meetings this year than in the 20 yrs I have been going to Berwick speedway. You take the kids out of the crowd on Saturday I doubt there were much more than 400 in attendance. Before someone jumps in and says kids are important they are the future, true, but they get in free, so without the old fa*rts like me paying to get in , then this business model is doomed to failure. Kids get in free granted, however how much do they (or the parents) spend on food, drink, merchandise ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 19 hours ago, Fourentee said: I wasn't at the match but in broad terms usually feel that if you have a reserve who's on it in a struggling team he should get his seven rides before heat 15. With Jye at No.2, he wouldn't have ridden in the later heats and so perhaps wouldn't be fully up to speed on how the track was riding by then. Just conjecture. Usually there are good reasons why the expected riders in heat 15 don't appear, which is not to say team managers don't get it wrong occasionally! The track rides the same from Ht1 most weeks you need to make the gate,Jye was gating and riding hard 1st/2nd bends.More to the point is how Howe and NJB got there full quota when Dany was gating and winning heats! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 41 minutes ago, Fromafar said: The track rides the same from Ht1 most weeks you need to make the gate,Jye was gating and riding hard 1st/2nd bends.More to the point is how Howe and NJB got there full quota when Dany was gating and winning heats! Fair enough, thanks for the info. Over to Berwick management then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 2 hours ago, penchev said: Kids get in free granted, however how much do they (or the parents) spend on food, drink, merchandise ? Even when PW was in charge, you needed 750 paying adults to break even 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penchev Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, balderdash&piffle said: Even when PW was in charge, you needed 750 paying adults to break even Wow! £11,250 to break even for a home meeting, thats staggering!! Edited July 9, 2018 by penchev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concessionscol Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 3 hours ago, penchev said: Kids get in free granted, however how much do they (or the parents) spend on food, drink, merchandise ? wot about all the people who get in for free mmmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 Admission prices were cheaper in Peters day,and if you take into consideration consessions and overheads it was quite realistic .Imo.Even in Waites day we reckoned £50 a point was realistic average.90 points / meeting was £4500.I would doubt attendances today are covering everything and Sponsership is crucial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 58 minutes ago, concessionscol said: wot about all the people who get in for free mmmmmmm They don't get any food or drink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concessionscol Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 36 minutes ago, Fromafar said: They don't get any food or drink. still say the unemployed should get in on concession of £11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) At the end of it all if the customer is feeling short changed or feeling they aren`t getting value for money will either go elsewhere or not go at all, that is what is happening right now at Berwick. Edited July 9, 2018 by screm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argos Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 What’s Peter up to now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, Argos said: What’s Peter up to now? 10 minutes ago, Argos said: What’s Peter up to now? Probably ducking and diving,nothing new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 13 minutes ago, Argos said: What’s Peter up to now? Last time I heard leading a very comfortable life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 4 hours ago, balderdash&piffle said: Even when PW was in charge, you needed 750 paying adults to break even ive heard a few tracks quoting 750 paying spectators is the magical figure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, scaramanga said: ive heard a few tracks quoting 750 paying spectators is the magical figure 17 minutes ago, scaramanga said: ive heard a few tracks quoting 750 paying spectators is the magical figure Are there many tracks getting that number is the Question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) Letting kids in free is a great incentive for parents to take them along it probably helps to cover the fuel costs, if they had to pay for them would they still take them ? Another thing I've often wondered once they reach 16 do they come to the meetings with their parents or do head out with their mates , it's the 16 -24 yr olds we need to attract Edited July 9, 2018 by DSC67 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havenagotahope Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Argos said: What’s Peter up to now? Walking down past the Castle Hotel at four o’clock this afternoon Edited July 9, 2018 by havenagotahope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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