westhamboy66 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 As a London Ambulanceman I can tell you that there is no order on the form of a queue with Preference given to NHS Ambulances. Often with the abuse of Ambulances cut fingers , drunks , headaches etc are just some of the patients that arrive at A&E in the back of an ambulance, and if for example a St Johns vehicle arrived with a patient in a serious condition they would be seen immediately to make them wait just because they were being conveyed in a non NHS vehicle would make zero difference 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 At least, to give him some credit, Buster Chapman after the last meeting off ( or delayed to the late-night slot ) at KL there will be 2 ambulances on duty to at least avoid such a delay again ( if Sod's Law does not strike ). I am sure that more fans would have joined the No Thanks crowd, if not. I am not sure speedway can afford NOT to sort out this problem of meetings cut short and VFM spiralling downwards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 Another meeting without adequate medical cover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 You would have thought there would be extra with it being on tv 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) Why the paramedic has to go to hospital with a rider with a broken collarbone seems strange but I'm sure he/she knows best. I suppose it's only right that BT Sport are treated the same way us fans are Edited October 1, 2018 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, iainb said: Why the paramedic has to go to hospital with a rider with a broken collarbone seems strange but I'm sure he/she knows best. I suppose it's only right that BT Sport are treated the same way us fans are Seems dramatic.My cousin broke his collar bone in a speedway crash a few weeks back and stayed for the rest of the training session and then was driven back to London from Kent before going to hospital a number of hours after the injury occured!! But as you say each injury is different and each person and their pain levels are also different Edited October 2, 2018 by iris123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 12 hours ago, iainb said: Why the paramedic has to go to hospital with a rider with a broken collarbone seems strange but I'm sure he/she knows best. I suppose it's only right that BT Sport are treated the same way us fans are I think it boils down to the levels of pain relief administered, has a patient passed out etc. There will always be riders / individuals with different pain thresholds. How often have you seen a rider stretchered off to hear the next day that its just bruising and likewise see someone walk back to the pits and hear later they had multiple broken bones. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 It was a strange one at Kent last night, a Mildenhall rider was treated for an electric shock from his bike. Luckily he was ok, and the fifteen heats were just about squeezed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, cityrebel said: It was a strange one at Kent last night, a Mildenhall rider was treated for an electric shock from his bike. Luckily he was ok, and the fifteen heats were just about squeezed in. Certainly a new one on me. I was under the impression magic boxes were out of favour these days and even if the modern ignition systems had a wiring fault sending charge through the frame bike covers, boots and rubber handlebar grips are all not good conductors so where the contact was made to pass on the shock i have no idea but im sure someone more technical than me could hypothesise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 On 7/5/2018 at 9:26 PM, rusky said: I cant be certain on the state now, but when I was involved ion the sport it was the case that if a non-county ambulance took riders to hospital it effectively went to the back of the queue for admission to A&E, as priority was always given to county (i.e. NHS) ambulances, so there would be a significant delay in the rider (or indeed member of the public) being seen at A&E Yep nearly spot on. Normally there are 2 st johns ambulances at a meeting and at least one trained Paramedic/Doctor. Handover time is normally 15 mins, but as you say, more urgent cases go to the front in cas. which means it could be depending how far away from the stadium the Hospital is could be anything longer than 40 mins plus. like we had last night. Now if its a fan or a staff member then i think im right in saying a county Ambulance must be called, although in cases of emergency they will be treated first and formost by the track Doctor/Paramedic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 3:57 PM, Starman2006 said: Yep nearly spot on. Normally there are 2 st johns ambulances at a meeting and at least one trained Paramedic/Doctor. Handover time is normally 15 mins, but as you say, more urgent cases go to the front in cas. which means it could be depending how far away from the stadium the Hospital is could be anything longer than 40 mins plus. like we had last night. Now if its a fan or a staff member then i think im right in saying a county Ambulance must be called, although in cases of emergency they will be treated first and formost by the track Doctor/Paramedic. wonder what will happen when poole a and e is transfered to bournemouth hospital . meeting abandoned unless we have double cover ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 4 hours ago, ray c said: wonder what will happen when poole a and e is transfered to bournemouth hospital . meeting abandoned unless we have double cover ? Everybody is up in arms mate. Worse decision the CCG have made. for a number of reasons, not just speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: Everybody is up in arms mate. Worse decision the CCG have made. for a number of reasons, not just speedway. yes i agree on monday we had a delay of over an hour because of no medical cover cant see what the answer will be when or if a and e is moved to bournemouth difficult i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, ray c said: yes i agree on monday we had a delay of over an hour because of no medical cover cant see what the answer will be when or if a and e is moved to bournemouth difficult i think Certainly will not make life easier, there will definately have to be two Ambulances at our meetings, as a trip to bmth hand over and back could take up to a hour half as standard, providing they can hand over more or less straightaway. But 99% of the time thats not posible. We have a dr and a paramedic, so depending on the nature of the injury some can still go to Poole, otherwise one will have to stay and one go, and 2 st johns will have to go with them, one be able to drive. All this could cost more. The CCG are brain dead, but thats another story. Edited October 4, 2018 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 Time to resurrect this topic almost a year to the day from my original post... in the space of the last week 3 tracks have yet again proven to have inadequate medical cover to properly run a meeting. Poole (again) last week, which ended due to a curfew and fortunately I wasn't at. Leicester on Saturday, which I stuck out to the bitter end and tonight at Peterborough, I left as soon as I heard the paramedic was accompanying Hans Andersen to the hospital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 Shouldve hung around Ianb - was worth the wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 Maybe... I'd had enough of watching a tractor go around the track to last me a season at Leicester on Saturday night though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 9 hours ago, iainb said: Time to resurrect this topic almost a year to the day from my original post... in the space of the last week 3 tracks have yet again proven to have inadequate medical cover to properly run a meeting. Poole (again) last week, which ended due to a curfew and fortunately I wasn't at. Leicester on Saturday, which I stuck out to the bitter end and tonight at Peterborough, I left as soon as I heard the paramedic was accompanying Hans Andersen to the hospital. It was a major factor in me deciding to take in fewer meetings, which I have stuck to this year. Oddly Buster Chapman at KL after previous debacles has had adequate cover but not it seems at Pboro. Why differentiate between his three clubs? I just can't understand why Promoters go on doing this as the frustration drives more and more supporters away every time it happens. Yes, I do understand the cost factors but what that really says is that they can't afford to run speedway matches professionally and so might as well give up now and shut UK speedway down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 6 hours ago, waytogo28 said: It was a major factor in me deciding to take in fewer meetings, which I have stuck to this year. Oddly Buster Chapman at KL after previous debacles has had adequate cover but not it seems at Pboro. Why differentiate between his three clubs? I just can't understand why Promoters go on doing this as the frustration drives more and more supporters away every time it happens. Yes, I do understand the cost factors but what that really says is that they can't afford to run speedway matches professionally and so might as well give up now and shut UK speedway down. The trouble is you just don't know which tracks have adequate medical cover these days... until it's too late. I was at the KL v Leicester match last year where there was inadequate medical cover and despite Buster saying it wouldn't happen again I vowed never to return to KL. Poole don't even have adequate medical cover for TV matches, so there's no chance of them having it when the cameras aren't there. At least, generally with a bit of research, you can find out when teams are under strength or there is going to be a sun delay. What makes things worse is the complete lack of thought of what to do when there is a delay due to inadequate medical cover, the best promotions can do seems to be send a tractor out, is this really good enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 6 hours ago, waytogo28 said: It was a major factor in me deciding to take in fewer meetings, which I have stuck to this year. Oddly Buster Chapman at KL after previous debacles has had adequate cover but not it seems at Pboro. Why differentiate between his three clubs? I just can't understand why Promoters go on doing this as the frustration drives more and more supporters away every time it happens. Yes, I do understand the cost factors but what that really says is that they can't afford to run speedway matches professionally and so might as well give up now and shut UK speedway down. There were at least 2 ambulances at Boro It was the fact that senior paramedic needed to accompany Hans to the hospital due to his concern over his condition that meant the delay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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