Kings Lynn v Leicester Lions 4/7/2018

[tellboy]

3 hours ago, Bald Bloke said:

Short vid from Kasper

https://twitter.com/kaspera98?lang=en

Brilliant to see,unbelievable after witnessing last nights crash.

Thanks Bald Bloke

Edited July 5, 2018 by tellboy

[g13webb]

9 hours ago, lucifer sam said:

He's about 10 years out of date - that was the old system.

The new one was devised to be fairer - sometimes the supporters loses out, sometimes they gain.  It's £1 back for each incompleted race before Heat 10.  Once Heat 10 is done and dusted, there's no refund.

If six races are run, then for the re-staging you receive a £4 discount.

Sometimes you will get an exception.  For example, a couple of years ago a meeting was called off at Scunthorpe after just two races, and promoter Rob Godfrey decided on a full refund for the re-staging as a goodwill gesture, rather than a discount.

To be fair to Buster regarding last night, he still has 6 races to pay out riders.  So I would expect he will use the standard readmission policy of reduced admission for the re-staging.

 

 

I stand corrected.  obviously  he was not up to date with all the many rule changes.    You say the new system is fairer,   you'll have to forgive me for not agreeing with you .   Under the new system the supporter  never gains and loses out everytime a meeting is called off.        

Years ago the supporters were appreciated and treated as a valued commodity,  not anymore.   You don't have to think very hard to see why the numbers are dwindling  fast..      Of those many fans who had been waiting for hours  before leaving ,    I cant imagine  they'll  be too keen to come again  when they learn they will only  receive a small adjustment from their initial £18.00 they forked out...

NB :   Pleased to see Rob Godfrey  made the correct decision and refunded the full amount for a meeting called off after 2 races.     As a supporter I wouldn't have expected anything less...   

[semion]

Webbo.  Sorry mate but every post you make begs one question.

 

Why the flock do you go to Speedway ? You must get sumink out of it, but reading your posts I’m at a total loss to see what.

[waytogo28]

11 hours ago, lucifer sam said:

To be fair to Buster regarding last night, he still has 6 races to pay out riders.  So I would expect he will use the standard readmission policy of reduced admission for the re-staging.

 

But he does not seem to want to make any public announcement via any kind of media about what kind of refund he is willing to make. Why? For those fans who say there should be no clamour for refunds, that's OK throw away your ticket stubs ( perhaps you already have ) for those like me who feel cheated ( again ) by Buster, do want to know what kind of gesture he will make. Please tell us even if it is to confirm what is in the programme. I don't know because I can't afford to buy one and waste the money on a programme.

[IainB]

I haven't bought a programme for years and was totally unaware of the "new" refund rules... does the heat 6 rule not apply anymore?

[Star Lady]

To be fair to Buster, he may have been slightly busy, First checking and maybe visiting the injured riders and ensuring all was OK for them, then there is the aftermath of the Rye House saga and then the Friday night saga.

In an ideal world yes information would be great but as I understand it the next meeting isn't until next week   July 23rd (had to check) so it's not exactly urgent is it.

[Star Lady]

3 minutes ago, iainb said:

I haven't bought a programme for years and was totally unaware of the "new" refund rules... does the heat 6 rule not apply anymore?

Try reading back about a dozen posts. Lucifer Sam summed it up perfectly and trust me he knows his stuff.

[IainB]

6 minutes ago, Star Lady said:

To be fair to Buster, he may have been slightly busy, First checking and maybe visiting the injured riders and ensuring all was OK for them, then there is the aftermath of the Rye House saga and then the Friday night saga.

In an ideal world yes information would be great but as I understand it the next meeting isn't until next week   July 23rd (had to check) so it's not exactly urgent is it.

I didn't realise Buster was a Dr... and if he can't handle being Chairman and running KL, perhaps it's time for him to step down from one of his roles

[Star Lady]

2 minutes ago, iainb said:

I didn't realise Buster was a Dr... and if he can't handle being Chairman and running KL, perhaps it's time for him to step down from one of his roles

Nowhere did I suggest he was but I know from personal experience that Buster is very caring and the well being of all of his employees /riders is of prime concern to him and his family. Now that might not be what you want to hear or fit in with folks perception of him but it's true.

 

[IainB]

Just now, Star Lady said:

Nowhere did I suggest he was but I know from personal experience that Buster is very caring and the well being of all of his employees /riders is of prime concern to him and his family. Now that might not be what you want to hear or fit in with folks perception of him but it's true.

 

I don't know the guy, maybe he is, I hope so... but sometimes there is the bigger picture to think about

[Star Lady]

Just now, iainb said:

I don't know the guy, maybe he is, I hope so... but sometimes there is the bigger picture to think about

Sod the big picture - riders welfare comes first.

[IainB]

Just now, Star Lady said:

Sod the big picture - riders welfare comes first.

You're obviously an apologist for Buster and he can do no wrong in your eyes, nobody has suffered life changing injuries here so quite why you think he should be nursemaiding riders with injuries instead of running his business and the sport in general is beyond me. I hope you're happy when you're stood alone in an empty stadium watching your Speedway

[Star Lady]

6 minutes ago, iainb said:

You're obviously an apologist for Buster and he can do no wrong in your eyes, nobody has suffered life changing injuries here so quite why you think he should be nursemaiding riders with injuries instead of running his business and the sport in general is beyond me. I hope you're happy when you're stood alone in an empty stadium watching your Speedway

You make me laugh

check back thro a few Lynn threads and I've been one of Busters biggest critics for the way he has run Lynn for the last few years and I will probably continue to be so. However I am a fair minded person and not so blinded by prejudice that I cannot see two sides to things. I speak as I find always have hopefully always will.

as for the sport in general, I think you give Buster far more credit (if that's the right word) for the continuing debacle the sport has become. The BSPA is a collective not a dictatorship and all voting members bear equal responsibility for the sports downfall. 

 

[IainB]

1 minute ago, Star Lady said:

You make me laugh

check back thro a few Lynn threads and I've been one of Busters biggest critics for the way he has run Lynn for the last few years and I will probably continue to be so. However I am a fair minded person and not so blinded by prejudice that I cannot see two sides to things. I speak as I find always have hopefully always will.

as for the sport in general, I think you give Buster far more credit (if that's the right word) for the continuing debacle the sport has become. The BSPA is a collective not a dictatorship and all voting members bear equal responsibility for the sports downfall. 

 

OK, I'll take your word for it... I'm not going to go back through Lynn threads, I wish I wasn't on this one... If Buster had booked 2 ambulances I probably wouldn't be

[waytogo28]

33 minutes ago, Star Lady said:

To be fair to Buster, he may have been slightly busy, First checking and maybe visiting the injured riders and ensuring all was OK for them, then there is the aftermath of the Rye House saga and then the Friday night saga.

In an ideal world yes information would be great but as I understand it the next meeting isn't until next week   July 23rd (had to check) so it's not exactly urgent is it.

Is there no-one else at KLS who can agree on a quote and Tweet it or add two lines to the website? I don't expect Buster to handle every single thing at KLS ( NOT even he could do that! ). But there are more than a few clustered around him, acolyte style, some of them being paid. What exactly does the new co-promoter do?

[Star Lady]

1 minute ago, waytogo28 said:

Is there no-one else at KLS who can agree on a quote and Tweet it or add two lines to the website? I don't expect Buster to handle every single thing at KLS ( NOT even he could do that! ). But there are more than a few clustered around him, acolyte style, some of them being paid. What exactly does the new co-promoter do?

Now there I agree with you but the comment was made about Buster not KL management. Love to get an answer to your last sentence although I have seen him retweet a few things from riders etc

 

[lucifer sam]

2 hours ago, g13webb said:

I stand corrected.  obviously  he was not up to date with all the many rule changes.    You say the new system is fairer,   you'll have to forgive me for not agreeing with you .   Under the new system the supporter  never gains and loses out everytime a meeting is called off.        

Years ago the supporters were appreciated and treated as a valued commodity,  not anymore.   You don't have to think very hard to see why the numbers are dwindling  fast..      Of those many fans who had been waiting for hours  before leaving ,    I cant imagine  they'll  be too keen to come again  when they learn they will only  receive a small adjustment from their initial £18.00 they forked out...

 

Not quite true and Wednesday is a good example why.

Back in the 70s and 80s, meetings were rushed through to heat six, because at that point, there was NO refund.

On Wednesday, there were six races, and yet there should still be discounted admission for those with re-admission tickets.

A supporter on Wednesday is better off under the new system than the old system.

[ouch]

16 hours ago, mrss said:

Ffs. What is a matter with people? Worrying about a few pounds off the next meeting. Riders were badly hurt last night and all people do on here is moan about the meeting being abandoned.

Maybe you could step in and remburse these people as you don’t worry about the money, just the riders. 

 

 

[Daniel Smith]

1 hour ago, Star Lady said:

Nowhere did I suggest he was but I know from personal experience that Buster is very caring and the well being of all of his employees /riders is of prime concern to him and his family. Now that might not be what you want to hear or fit in with folks perception of him but it's true.

 

For years SL I thought the same, never criticised Buster or anything King's Lynn. Like some of the other Stars supporters on here, I would shoot people down for negativity. For me I feel in the last 2-3 years supporters seem to have become a burden to him. Years ago us fan where so important to him, immediately on the mic to explain what's going on etc. Going by what's been said with regards Wednesday it seems he didn't want to address anything. In the past when he got heckled on the mic he'd answer back. To just hand the mic back and walk off isn't the Buster you and I remember. 

The way he handled situations last season was nothing short of appalling.

People obviously say you should move on, go or don't go, but when the club you so used to love starts to fall apart why should I just disappear. I want King's Lynn as a club to be great again, an atmospheric place to be for everybody. 

The Premiership Buster is a totally different monster than the Premier League Buster.

[Daniel Smith]

1 hour ago, lucifer sam said:

Not quite true and Wednesday is a good example why.

Back in the 70s and 80s, meetings were rushed through to heat six, because at that point, there was NO refund.

On Wednesday, there were six races, and yet there should still be discounted admission for those with re-admission tickets.

A supporter on Wednesday is better off under the new system than the old system.

The rules may be better than years gone by but we're talking about King's Lynn. 

In years gone by Buster would always allow any 1 of the next 3 meetings or the rearranged fixture free for 8 or less heats. £1 off each heat not run from 9 to 12.

Regardless of the rules anyway if a result doesn't stand fans are ripped off and people are turning away from the sport because of it.

People are picking and choosing fixtures due to the weather, what happened Wednesday may see people go once or twice a year, or never again.