Kings Lynn v Leicester Lions 4/7/2018

[Haza]

Surely those with admission tickets will get in free to any of the next 3 meetings or in Leicester fans case when the meeting is re- arranged - I’d be amazed if that’s not the case - after all any short fall would have been made up last night on food and drink sales a two hour hold up I’d have thought there would be increased sales in those areas . Those who are critical of last night I’m sure it’s an a aculmination of what’s gone on over the last few years if last night was just a one off doubt much would be said but it’s not just a one off ok crashes can’t be helped they are a fact of life sadly . Even in the build up to this meeting (or lack of it ) there was confusion on if Iversen was riding or not for the Stars - I found out he definitely was through a connection I have in the sport in DK  anyone who knows me will no who I asked - so surely this confusion could have been hit on the head days before the meeting all the confusion does is put fans off attending - why is so hard to get these simple things right ? If it stopped 5 people attending it’s £90 lost to the club - all we all want is the club to be successful on and off the track all I see is little or no effort to promote meetings a week before there should be something on social media about up coming meetings not 48 hours before . 

[pointsmeanplayoffs]

Not being funny, but if I don't get free admission for last night's abandonment I will not be going to speedway again at Lynn this season.

 

 

[Haza]

18 minutes ago, pointsmeanplayoffs said:

Not being funny, but if I don't get free admission for last night's abandonment I will not be going to speedway again at Lynn this season.

 

 

Can’t fault you I’d expect the exact same 

[Bagpuss]

Me too. Would be a very welcome gesture of good will to offer people with tickets free admission.

[Chris116]

When the Rye House v Leicester meeting was called off after eight races had been completed due to rain Adults and Seniors were given £4 off and we were told by Rye House that the tickets would get the £4 off at any meeting this season. It was explained on the Rye House website and I paste that below:-

 

The “BP Mitchell” Rockets have confirmed details of the re-admission discounts for supporters following the abandonment of last night’s home fixture against Leicester.



Because the match was abandoned prior to the completion of Heat 10, fans are entitled to reduced admission at any one future meeting this season (or next) at Rye House. 

The reduction is based on a combination of the admission price paid at last night’s match and the heat at which the match was abandoned. Given that eight of the minimum ten races were completed, there will be a minimum 20% discount available - with all discount values rounded up to the nearest pound. 

The applicable discounts are therefore: Adults £4.00, Seniors £4.00, Disabled £3.00, Students £2.00 and Children (12-16) £2.00.

Discount for the meeting of a supporter’s choice will only apply on the production of the admission ticket from last night’s meeting. Please note that this offer excludes any “shared events”, where Rye House is a neutral staging club, that may take place over this period.

[g13webb]

Call me cynical,    but that re-run of heat 6 was of the utmost importance.     Had the meeting been abandoned  when Kerr had his accident , it would have meant a full refund to each and every spectator.      But even though  the time was 10-20pm,  the ht6 rerun was eventually raced ,  The difference of that race alters  the responsibility  to the club significantly,   they now only have to re-pay a small portion of any re-admission.

Now the ball is firmly in the promotion's court,       Did the fans stand-about for 2 hours,  giving the club the opportunity to rip them off,    or will the club re-emburse them all for their  willingness  to stop behind to  see more racing....              No doubt we will  all wait for the answer...…  

 

[IainB]

1 hour ago, g13webb said:

Call me cynical

Cynical

[IainB]

At least it's nice to see a short apology on the website, just a few sentences explaining what happened and a sorry for those fans that left well before the end and have no doubt hit the website looking for an apology/explanation...

Oh that's right... absolutely nothing... you reap what you sew

[IainB]

"8.2 The minimum Personnel and Facilities required at a Speedway Meeting (including an Amateur Meeting) are: one (1) Medical Officer one (1) Ambulance with a Driver and Attendant one (1) Medical Treatment Facility four (4) First Aid Staff The minimum Personnel and Facilities required at a Training Session (but not one that also includes a Meeting of any sort) is one (1) Medical Treatment Facility plus 2 First Aid Staff. 8.2.1 The Medical Treatment facility may be a 2 nd fully equipped Ambulance or a designated Medical Room, with good access, is well lit, dry, windproof and heated with curtains or similar at all windows, has a chair/couch or similar, a supply of basic medical equipment and facilities for hand washing with hot and cold water. NB. If this is a 2 nd Ambulance appropriately qualified persons must be available to supervise a casualty"

So KL doing the bare minimum?

[Star Lady]

36 minutes ago, iainb said:

"8.2 The minimum Personnel and Facilities required at a Speedway Meeting (including an Amateur Meeting) are: one (1) Medical Officer one (1) Ambulance with a Driver and Attendant one (1) Medical Treatment Facility four (4) First Aid Staff The minimum Personnel and Facilities required at a Training Session (but not one that also includes a Meeting of any sort) is one (1) Medical Treatment Facility plus 2 First Aid Staff. 8.2.1 The Medical Treatment facility may be a 2 nd fully equipped Ambulance or a designated Medical Room, with good access, is well lit, dry, windproof and heated with curtains or similar at all windows, has a chair/couch or similar, a supply of basic medical equipment and facilities for hand washing with hot and cold water. NB. If this is a 2 nd Ambulance appropriately qualified persons must be available to supervise a casualty"

So KL doing the bare minimum?

A reasonable size , fully equipped treatment room, which I'm sure Lynn is, has far more space to allow ease of treatment of patients. Ambulances are not exactly spacious or indeed comfortable. I assume both room and 2nd ambulance are merely holding facilities and not used for emergency treatment.

I respect your right to a differing opinion tho.

[IainB]

1 minute ago, Star Lady said:

A reasonable size , fully equipped treatment room, which I'm sure Lynn is, has far more space to allow ease of treatment of patients. Ambulances are not exactly spacious or indeed comfortable. I assume both room and 2nd ambulance are merely holding facilities and not used for emergency treatment.

I respect your right to a differing opinion tho.

It's ok it being a holding area if the county ambulance arrives within minutes, you couldn't expect an injured rider to wait there for 3 hours, as they didn't... that's when a lack of on site ambulances is a problem

[stevehone]

2 hours ago, g13webb said:

Call me cynical,    but that re-run of heat 6 was of the utmost importance.     Had the meeting been abandoned  when Kerr had his accident , it would have meant a full refund to each and every spectator.      But even though  the time was 10-20pm,  the ht6 rerun was eventually raced ,  The difference of that race alters  the responsibility  to the club significantly,   they now only have to re-pay a small portion of any re-admission.

Now the ball is firmly in the promotion's court,       Did the fans stand-about for 2 hours,  giving the club the opportunity to rip them off,    or will the club re-emburse them all for their  willingness  to stop behind to  see more racing....              No doubt we will  all wait for the answer...…  

 

from what i saw last night it seemed it was the ref that wanted to continue

[mrss]

Ffs. What is a matter with people? Worrying about a few pounds off the next meeting. Riders were badly hurt last night and all people do on here is moan about the meeting being abandoned.

[IainB]

7 minutes ago, mrss said:

Ffs. What is a matter with people? Worrying about a few pounds off the next meeting. Riders were badly hurt last night and all people do on here is moan about the meeting being abandoned.

The point is it was all so avoidable... but that doesn't seem to bother you all the way up there on the moral high ground. 

Just because a rider gets injured that doesn't make it OK for the promoter to mug the punters off

Edited July 5, 2018 by iainb

[lucifer sam]

2 hours ago, g13webb said:

Call me cynical,    but that re-run of heat 6 was of the utmost importance.     Had the meeting been abandoned  when Kerr had his accident , it would have meant a full refund to each and every spectator.      But even though  the time was 10-20pm,  the ht6 rerun was eventually raced ,  The difference of that race alters  the responsibility  to the club significantly,   they now only have to re-pay a small portion of any re-admission.

 

 

Incorrect.

Five races before Heat 10 means a £5 discount.  The extra race only cost spectators £1.

Edited July 5, 2018 by lucifer sam

[mullardp]

is it true riders asked for bend 1&2 to be graded but buster said NO and made them ride?????

[g13webb]

I was informed that if the meeting is called off before the completion of heat 6 then full reimbursement  or subsequent admission  is paid out...... 

He may have got this wrong,  but usually he pretty clued up on these things....         Looking back to last night  on how late they ran that race,  it all adds up to that being the case.....

[Bald Bloke]

Short vid from Kasper

https://twitter.com/kaspera98?lang=en

[Bagpuss]

59 minutes ago, g13webb said:

I was informed that if the meeting is called off before the completion of heat 6 then full reimbursement  or subsequent admission  is paid out...... 

He may have got this wrong,  but usually he pretty clued up on these things....         Looking back to last night  on how late they ran that race,  it all adds up to that being the case.....

 

1 hour ago, lucifer sam said:

Incorrect.

Five races before Heat 10 means a £5 discount.  The extra race only cost spectators £1.

lucifer Sam is a speedway administrator so I'd put my mortgage on him being right.

[lucifer sam]

1 hour ago, g13webb said:

I was informed that if the meeting is called off before the completion of heat 6 then full reimbursement  or subsequent admission  is paid out...... 

He may have got this wrong,  but usually he pretty clued up on these things....         Looking back to last night  on how late they ran that race,  it all adds up to that being the case.....

He's about 10 years out of date - that was the old system.

The new one was devised to be fairer - sometimes the supporters loses out, sometimes they gain.  It's £1 back for each incompleted race before Heat 10.  Once Heat 10 is done and dusted, there's no refund.

If six races are run, then for the re-staging you receive a £4 discount.

Sometimes you will get an exception.  For example, a couple of years ago a meeting was called off at Scunthorpe after just two races, and promoter Rob Godfrey decided on a full refund for the re-staging as a goodwill gesture, rather than a discount.

To be fair to Buster regarding last night, he still has 6 races to pay out riders.  So I would expect he will use the standard readmission policy of reduced admission for the re-staging.