AGM MADE PUBLIC

[Bald Bloke]

Somethings got to happen , and happen soon, that's for sure.

I was just looking back to the year I left school, to see how may teams we had back then. I was going to speedway then, buts it's a long time ago.

I was shocked.....

1980 BRITISH LEAGUE

   Team                          Mts  Won  Drn  Lst   For   Agn  Pts

 1.READING ‘Racers’               32   24    1    7  1434  1062   49

 2.Hackney ‘Hawks’                32   23    0    9  1300  1188   46

 3.Belle Vue ‘Aces’               32   21    1   10  1298  1193   43

 4.Coventry ‘Bees’                32   20    2   10  1326  1170   42

 5.Cradley Heath ‘Heathens’       32   20    0   12  1302  1189   40

 6.King’s Lynn ‘Stars’            32   17    0   15  1353  1141   34

 7.Ipswich ‘Witches’              32   16    2   14  1298  1194   34

 8.Swindon ‘Robins’               32   16    2   14  1264  1231   34

 9.Poole ‘Pirates’                32   15    2   15  1254  1237   32

10.Halifax ‘Dukes’                32   15    1   16  1219  1271   31

11.Leicester ‘Lions’              32   14    0   18  1253  1241   28

12.Hull ‘Vikings’                 32   11    5   16  1207  1286   27

13.Wimbledon ‘Dons’               32   12    2   18  1195  1294   26

14.Birmingham ‘Brummies’          32   11    1   20  1158  1338   23

15.Wolverhampton ‘Wolves’         32    9    2   21  1192  1297   20

16.Eastbourne ‘Eagles’            32    9    1   22  1093  1399   19

17.Sheffield ‘Tigers’             32    8    0   24  1039  1454   16

 

KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: Cradley Heath 116 Belle Vue 100

INTER LEAGUE KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: King’s Lynn 83 Swindon 73

BL RIDERS’ CHAMPIONSHIP: Les Collins (Leicester), 14 pts

 

1980 NATIONAL LEAGUE

   Team                          Mts  Won  Drn  Lst   For    Agn  Pts

 1.RYE HOUSE ‘Rockets’            38   31    0    7  1735   1219   62

 2.Newcastle ‘Diamonds’           38   30    1    7  1714   1238   61

 3.Middlesbrough ‘Tigers’         38   27    2    9  1665½  1288½  56

 4.Berwick ‘Bandits’              38   24    1   13  1638½  1306½  49

 5.Boston ‘Barracudas’            38   23    2   13  1605   1348   48

 6.Edinburgh ‘Monarchs’           38   23    2   13  1499   1457   48

 7.Mildenhall ‘Fen Tigers’        38   21    2   15  1543½  1415½  44

 8.Peterborough ‘Panthers’        38   21    0   17  1467   1494   42

 9.Crayford ‘Kestrels’            37   20    1   16  1542   1334   41

10.Ellesmere Port ‘Gunners’       38   20    1   17  1561   1396   41

11.Glasgow ‘Tigers’               38   19    2   17  1538   1416   40

12.Exeter ‘Falcons’               38   17    1   20  1453   1505   35

13.Scunthorpe ‘Stags’             38   15    1   22  1363   1572   31

14.Nottingham ‘Outlaws’           38   14    2   22  1415   1545   30

15.Oxford ‘Cheetahs’              38   14    1   23  1339   1608   29

16.Stoke ‘Potters’                38   14    0   24  1334   1615   28

17.Weymouth ‘Wildcats’            37   13    1   23  1372½  1483½  27

18.Canterbury ‘Crusaders’         38   10    4   24  1397   1555   24

19.Milton Keynes ‘Knights’        38    8    2   28  1290   1668   18

20.Workington ‘Comets’            38    2    0   36   969   1977    4

 

NOTE: One match, Crayford v. Weymouth, was not raced.

Edited July 5, 2018 by Bald Bloke

[acef]

On 6/30/2018 at 11:28 PM, Grachan said:

Even without GP riders, you could have a league of reasonable strength. You are proposing a points limit of 35. It seems that your idea of what speedway should be is just a few people gathered in the countryside watching their mates having a skid round.

That is fine at grass roots level, but the top league needs to improve its standard. I very rarely go to speedway these days, because, even though I like the Swindon side as I am used to those riders, the opposition never looks appealing.

I want to be enthused by speedway. It infuriates me to see people saying it should be driven down to such a low level.

It needs to get fans back in. It needs to get people like me back in.

Your missing the point entirely. The sport can't operate on the implicated costs your theory would assume. 

 

It's struggling as it is with a much lower calibre of rider. It would be financial suicide for pretty much every UK club

[STEVEHOLS54]

16 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

Somethings got to happen , and happen soon, that's for sure.

I was just looking back to the year I left school, to see how may teams we had back then. I was going to speedway then, buts it's a long time ago.

I was shocked.....

1980 BRITISH LEAGUE

   Team                          Mts  Won  Drn  Lst   For   Agn  Pts

 1.READING ‘Racers’               32   24    1    7  1434  1062   49

 2.Hackney ‘Hawks’                32   23    0    9  1300  1188   46

 3.Belle Vue ‘Aces’               32   21    1   10  1298  1193   43

 4.Coventry ‘Bees’                32   20    2   10  1326  1170   42

 5.Cradley Heath ‘Heathens’       32   20    0   12  1302  1189   40

 6.King’s Lynn ‘Stars’            32   17    0   15  1353  1141   34

 7.Ipswich ‘Witches’              32   16    2   14  1298  1194   34

 8.Swindon ‘Robins’               32   16    2   14  1264  1231   34

 9.Poole ‘Pirates’                32   15    2   15  1254  1237   32

10.Halifax ‘Dukes’                32   15    1   16  1219  1271   31

11.Leicester ‘Lions’              32   14    0   18  1253  1241   28

12.Hull ‘Vikings’                 32   11    5   16  1207  1286   27

13.Wimbledon ‘Dons’               32   12    2   18  1195  1294   26

14.Birmingham ‘Brummies’          32   11    1   20  1158  1338   23

15.Wolverhampton ‘Wolves’         32    9    2   21  1192  1297   20

16.Eastbourne ‘Eagles’            32    9    1   22  1093  1399   19

17.Sheffield ‘Tigers’             32    8    0   24  1039  1454   16

 

KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: Cradley Heath 116 Belle Vue 100

INTER LEAGUE KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: King’s Lynn 83 Swindon 73

BL RIDERS’ CHAMPIONSHIP: Les Collins (Leicester), 14 pts

 

1980 NATIONAL LEAGUE

   Team                          Mts  Won  Drn  Lst   For    Agn  Pts

 1.RYE HOUSE ‘Rockets’            38   31    0    7  1735   1219   62

 2.Newcastle ‘Diamonds’           38   30    1    7  1714   1238   61

 3.Middlesbrough ‘Tigers’         38   27    2    9  1665½  1288½  56

 4.Berwick ‘Bandits’              38   24    1   13  1638½  1306½  49

 5.Boston ‘Barracudas’            38   23    2   13  1605   1348   48

 6.Edinburgh ‘Monarchs’           38   23    2   13  1499   1457   48

 7.Mildenhall ‘Fen Tigers’        38   21    2   15  1543½  1415½  44

 8.Peterborough ‘Panthers’        38   21    0   17  1467   1494   42

 9.Crayford ‘Kestrels’            37   20    1   16  1542   1334   41

10.Ellesmere Port ‘Gunners’       38   20    1   17  1561   1396   41

11.Glasgow ‘Tigers’               38   19    2   17  1538   1416   40

12.Exeter ‘Falcons’               38   17    1   20  1453   1505   35

13.Scunthorpe ‘Stags’             38   15    1   22  1363   1572   31

14.Nottingham ‘Outlaws’           38   14    2   22  1415   1545   30

15.Oxford ‘Cheetahs’              38   14    1   23  1339   1608   29

16.Stoke ‘Potters’                38   14    0   24  1334   1615   28

17.Weymouth ‘Wildcats’            37   13    1   23  1372½  1483½  27

18.Canterbury ‘Crusaders’         38   10    4   24  1397   1555   24

19.Milton Keynes ‘Knights’        38    8    2   28  1290   1668   18

20.Workington ‘Comets’            38    2    0   36   969   1977    4

 

NOTE: One match, Crayford v. Weymouth, was not raced.

Jeez - Don't remind me. It was a year where my 2 nearest and loved clubs almost pulled off a unique double. Hackney and Rye House. I got the best of both leagues on a Friday and Sunday.

The nearest, my beloved Hawks ever came to winning the top division and I supported them as a 16 year old from 1970.

But your point is yes so many clubs - so many matches with not only League but KO Cup and Individual rider championship's/meetings. Have to say was best time for me between 70 and say early eightees.

[DC2]

44 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

Jeez - Don't remind me. It was a year where my 2 nearest and loved clubs almost pulled off a unique double. Hackney and Rye House. I got the best of both leagues on a Friday and Sunday.

The nearest, my beloved Hawks ever came to winning the top division and I supported them as a 16 year old from 1970.

But your point is yes so many clubs - so many matches with not only League but KO Cup and Individual rider championship's/meetings. Have to say was best time for me between 70 and say early eightees.

 

Blimey, Steve, I’m framing that. Your shortest post ever. Even shorter than your wedding vows when all you were supposed to say was “I do”! Apparently you were still answering on your first anniversary.  Lol.

 

[STEVEHOLS54]

2 hours ago, DC2 said:

 

Blimey, Steve, I’m framing that. Your shortest post ever. Even shorter than your wedding vows when all you were supposed to say was “I do”! Apparently you were still answering on your first anniversary.  Lol.

 

LOL 

Sorry DC I do tend to get really into this forum thing since i first discovered it 2 years ago.

But don't knock it mate. You can hopefully tell I love the sport and am really into some of the stats side as well as being an enthusiastic supporter who likes having open debate with others interested. Not all this bloody back biting that goes on. But I enjoy some of the witty posts.

One liners anyone can do incl me but I like the debate element. Remember I am a speedway supporter of many years and one of a dying breed as there is less young talent/supporters joining us. Hopefully the sport will still outlive me but you have to cast some doubts when you see whats going on.

Was lucky enough to be able to take early retirement 2 years ago after 46 years in the Shipping biz. (My decision to retire early). Suppose I still partly miss the buzz and hustle/bustle of working life which maybe why i throw myself more into the Forum (specially Poole) even though based in Chelmsford- Essex.

Anyway better go as rambling again 

[STEVEHOLS54]

2 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

LOL 

Sorry DC I do tend to get really into this forum thing since i first discovered it 2 years ago.

But don't knock it mate. You can hopefully tell I love the sport and am really into some of the stats side as well as being an enthusiastic supporter who likes having open debate with others interested. Not all this bloody back biting that goes on. But I enjoy some of the witty posts.

One liners anyone can do incl me but I like the debate element. Remember I am a speedway supporter of many years and one of a dying breed as there is less young talent/supporters joining us. Hopefully the sport will still outlive me but you have to cast some doubts when you see whats going on.

Was lucky enough to be able to take early retirement 2 years ago after 46 years in the Shipping biz. (My decision to retire early). Suppose I still partly miss the buzz and hustle/bustle of working life which maybe why i throw myself more into the Forum (specially Poole) even though based in Chelmsford- Essex.

Anyway better go as rambling again 

P.S: Interesting choice of words re wedding vows as celebrated our 43rd wedding anniversary today. Jeez that is a lifetime huh ??

[GWC]

4 hours ago, Bald Bloke said:

Somethings got to happen , and happen soon, that's for sure.

I was just looking back to the year I left school, to see how may teams we had back then. I was going to speedway then, buts it's a long time ago.

I was shocked.....

1980 BRITISH LEAGUE

   Team                          Mts  Won  Drn  Lst   For   Agn  Pts

 1.READING ‘Racers’               32   24    1    7  1434  1062   49

 2.Hackney ‘Hawks’                32   23    0    9  1300  1188   46

 3.Belle Vue ‘Aces’               32   21    1   10  1298  1193   43

 4.Coventry ‘Bees’                32   20    2   10  1326  1170   42

 5.Cradley Heath ‘Heathens’       32   20    0   12  1302  1189   40

 6.King’s Lynn ‘Stars’            32   17    0   15  1353  1141   34

 7.Ipswich ‘Witches’              32   16    2   14  1298  1194   34

 8.Swindon ‘Robins’               32   16    2   14  1264  1231   34

 9.Poole ‘Pirates’                32   15    2   15  1254  1237   32

10.Halifax ‘Dukes’                32   15    1   16  1219  1271   31

11.Leicester ‘Lions’              32   14    0   18  1253  1241   28

12.Hull ‘Vikings’                 32   11    5   16  1207  1286   27

13.Wimbledon ‘Dons’               32   12    2   18  1195  1294   26

14.Birmingham ‘Brummies’          32   11    1   20  1158  1338   23

15.Wolverhampton ‘Wolves’         32    9    2   21  1192  1297   20

16.Eastbourne ‘Eagles’            32    9    1   22  1093  1399   19

17.Sheffield ‘Tigers’             32    8    0   24  1039  1454   16

 

KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: Cradley Heath 116 Belle Vue 100

INTER LEAGUE KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: King’s Lynn 83 Swindon 73

BL RIDERS’ CHAMPIONSHIP: Les Collins (Leicester), 14 pts

 

1980 NATIONAL LEAGUE

   Team                          Mts  Won  Drn  Lst   For    Agn  Pts

 1.RYE HOUSE ‘Rockets’            38   31    0    7  1735   1219   62

 2.Newcastle ‘Diamonds’           38   30    1    7  1714   1238   61

 3.Middlesbrough ‘Tigers’         38   27    2    9  1665½  1288½  56

 4.Berwick ‘Bandits’              38   24    1   13  1638½  1306½  49

 5.Boston ‘Barracudas’            38   23    2   13  1605   1348   48

 6.Edinburgh ‘Monarchs’           38   23    2   13  1499   1457   48

 7.Mildenhall ‘Fen Tigers’        38   21    2   15  1543½  1415½  44

 8.Peterborough ‘Panthers’        38   21    0   17  1467   1494   42

 9.Crayford ‘Kestrels’            37   20    1   16  1542   1334   41

10.Ellesmere Port ‘Gunners’       38   20    1   17  1561   1396   41

11.Glasgow ‘Tigers’               38   19    2   17  1538   1416   40

12.Exeter ‘Falcons’               38   17    1   20  1453   1505   35

13.Scunthorpe ‘Stags’             38   15    1   22  1363   1572   31

14.Nottingham ‘Outlaws’           38   14    2   22  1415   1545   30

15.Oxford ‘Cheetahs’              38   14    1   23  1339   1608   29

16.Stoke ‘Potters’                38   14    0   24  1334   1615   28

17.Weymouth ‘Wildcats’            37   13    1   23  1372½  1483½  27

18.Canterbury ‘Crusaders’         38   10    4   24  1397   1555   24

19.Milton Keynes ‘Knights’        38    8    2   28  1290   1668   18

20.Workington ‘Comets’            38    2    0   36   969   1977    4

 

NOTE: One match, Crayford v. Weymouth, was not raced.

Yes and the majority of riders in the BL had come through from the NL and become stars.

Unfotunutely at this time teams like Cradley threw huge somes of money at their team and got team strengths increased and started the demise. As someone mentioned it didn’t see crowds increase and cost clubs a fortune.

Rye House for example lost half their championship winning team when most of their riders moved up.

It was a given in those days that riders from the NL would progress but I’m pretty sure the majority still had full time jobs as well as ride speedway.

[DC2]

3 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

LOL 

Sorry DC I do tend to get really into this forum thing since i first discovered it 2 years ago.

But don't knock it mate. You can hopefully tell I love the sport and am really into some of the stats side as well as being an enthusiastic supporter who likes having open debate with others interested. Not all this bloody back biting that goes on. But I enjoy some of the witty posts.

One liners anyone can do incl me but I like the debate element. Remember I am a speedway supporter of many years and one of a dying breed as there is less young talent/supporters joining us. Hopefully the sport will still outlive me but you have to cast some doubts when you see whats going on.

Was lucky enough to be able to take early retirement 2 years ago after 46 years in the Shipping biz. (My decision to retire early). Suppose I still partly miss the buzz and hustle/bustle of working life which maybe why i throw myself more into the Forum (specially Poole) even though based in Chelmsford- Essex.

Anyway better go as rambling again 

 

See, you’re such a decent bloke that I’ll pass on this application to Rosco so you can come over from the dark side.  

 

[Trackrat]

6 hours ago, Bald Bloke said:

Somethings got to happen , and happen soon, that's for sure.

I was just looking back to the year I left school, to see how may teams we had back then. I was going to speedway then, buts it's a long time ago.

I was shocked.....

1980 BRITISH LEAGUE

   Team                          Mts  Won  Drn  Lst   For   Agn  Pts

 1.READING ‘Racers’               32   24    1    7  1434  1062   49

 2.Hackney ‘Hawks’                32   23    0    9  1300  1188   46

 3.Belle Vue ‘Aces’               32   21    1   10  1298  1193   43

 4.Coventry ‘Bees’                32   20    2   10  1326  1170   42

 5.Cradley Heath ‘Heathens’       32   20    0   12  1302  1189   40

 6.King’s Lynn ‘Stars’            32   17    0   15  1353  1141   34

 7.Ipswich ‘Witches’              32   16    2   14  1298  1194   34

 8.Swindon ‘Robins’               32   16    2   14  1264  1231   34

 9.Poole ‘Pirates’                32   15    2   15  1254  1237   32

10.Halifax ‘Dukes’                32   15    1   16  1219  1271   31

11.Leicester ‘Lions’              32   14    0   18  1253  1241   28

12.Hull ‘Vikings’                 32   11    5   16  1207  1286   27

13.Wimbledon ‘Dons’               32   12    2   18  1195  1294   26

14.Birmingham ‘Brummies’          32   11    1   20  1158  1338   23

15.Wolverhampton ‘Wolves’         32    9    2   21  1192  1297   20

16.Eastbourne ‘Eagles’            32    9    1   22  1093  1399   19

17.Sheffield ‘Tigers’             32    8    0   24  1039  1454   16

 

KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: Cradley Heath 116 Belle Vue 100

INTER LEAGUE KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: King’s Lynn 83 Swindon 73

BL RIDERS’ CHAMPIONSHIP: Les Collins (Leicester), 14 pts

 

1980 NATIONAL LEAGUE

   Team                          Mts  Won  Drn  Lst   For    Agn  Pts

 1.RYE HOUSE ‘Rockets’            38   31    0    7  1735   1219   62

 2.Newcastle ‘Diamonds’           38   30    1    7  1714   1238   61

 3.Middlesbrough ‘Tigers’         38   27    2    9  1665½  1288½  56

 4.Berwick ‘Bandits’              38   24    1   13  1638½  1306½  49

 5.Boston ‘Barracudas’            38   23    2   13  1605   1348   48

 6.Edinburgh ‘Monarchs’           38   23    2   13  1499   1457   48

 7.Mildenhall ‘Fen Tigers’        38   21    2   15  1543½  1415½  44

 8.Peterborough ‘Panthers’        38   21    0   17  1467   1494   42

 9.Crayford ‘Kestrels’            37   20    1   16  1542   1334   41

10.Ellesmere Port ‘Gunners’       38   20    1   17  1561   1396   41

11.Glasgow ‘Tigers’               38   19    2   17  1538   1416   40

12.Exeter ‘Falcons’               38   17    1   20  1453   1505   35

13.Scunthorpe ‘Stags’             38   15    1   22  1363   1572   31

14.Nottingham ‘Outlaws’           38   14    2   22  1415   1545   30

15.Oxford ‘Cheetahs’              38   14    1   23  1339   1608   29

16.Stoke ‘Potters’                38   14    0   24  1334   1615   28

17.Weymouth ‘Wildcats’            37   13    1   23  1372½  1483½  27

18.Canterbury ‘Crusaders’         38   10    4   24  1397   1555   24

19.Milton Keynes ‘Knights’        38    8    2   28  1290   1668   18

20.Workington ‘Comets’            38    2    0   36   969   1977    4

 

NOTE: One match, Crayford v. Weymouth, was not raced.

I thought Poole won everything??????

[Starman2006]

6 hours ago, Bald Bloke said:

Somethings got to happen , and happen soon, that's for sure.

I was just looking back to the year I left school, to see how may teams we had back then. I was going to speedway then, buts it's a long time ago.

I was shocked.....

1980 BRITISH LEAGUE

   Team                          Mts  Won  Drn  Lst   For   Agn  Pts

 1.READING ‘Racers’               32   24    1    7  1434  1062   49

 2.Hackney ‘Hawks’                32   23    0    9  1300  1188   46

 3.Belle Vue ‘Aces’               32   21    1   10  1298  1193   43

 4.Coventry ‘Bees’                32   20    2   10  1326  1170   42

 5.Cradley Heath ‘Heathens’       32   20    0   12  1302  1189   40

 6.King’s Lynn ‘Stars’            32   17    0   15  1353  1141   34

 7.Ipswich ‘Witches’              32   16    2   14  1298  1194   34

 8.Swindon ‘Robins’               32   16    2   14  1264  1231   34

 9.Poole ‘Pirates’                32   15    2   15  1254  1237   32

10.Halifax ‘Dukes’                32   15    1   16  1219  1271   31

11.Leicester ‘Lions’              32   14    0   18  1253  1241   28

12.Hull ‘Vikings’                 32   11    5   16  1207  1286   27

13.Wimbledon ‘Dons’               32   12    2   18  1195  1294   26

14.Birmingham ‘Brummies’          32   11    1   20  1158  1338   23

15.Wolverhampton ‘Wolves’         32    9    2   21  1192  1297   20

16.Eastbourne ‘Eagles’            32    9    1   22  1093  1399   19

17.Sheffield ‘Tigers’             32    8    0   24  1039  1454   16

 

KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: Cradley Heath 116 Belle Vue 100

INTER LEAGUE KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: King’s Lynn 83 Swindon 73

BL RIDERS’ CHAMPIONSHIP: Les Collins (Leicester), 14 pts

 

1980 NATIONAL LEAGUE

   Team                          Mts  Won  Drn  Lst   For    Agn  Pts

 1.RYE HOUSE ‘Rockets’            38   31    0    7  1735   1219   62

 2.Newcastle ‘Diamonds’           38   30    1    7  1714   1238   61

 3.Middlesbrough ‘Tigers’         38   27    2    9  1665½  1288½  56

 4.Berwick ‘Bandits’              38   24    1   13  1638½  1306½  49

 5.Boston ‘Barracudas’            38   23    2   13  1605   1348   48

 6.Edinburgh ‘Monarchs’           38   23    2   13  1499   1457   48

 7.Mildenhall ‘Fen Tigers’        38   21    2   15  1543½  1415½  44

 8.Peterborough ‘Panthers’        38   21    0   17  1467   1494   42

 9.Crayford ‘Kestrels’            37   20    1   16  1542   1334   41

10.Ellesmere Port ‘Gunners’       38   20    1   17  1561   1396   41

11.Glasgow ‘Tigers’               38   19    2   17  1538   1416   40

12.Exeter ‘Falcons’               38   17    1   20  1453   1505   35

13.Scunthorpe ‘Stags’             38   15    1   22  1363   1572   31

14.Nottingham ‘Outlaws’           38   14    2   22  1415   1545   30

15.Oxford ‘Cheetahs’              38   14    1   23  1339   1608   29

16.Stoke ‘Potters’                38   14    0   24  1334   1615   28

17.Weymouth ‘Wildcats’            37   13    1   23  1372½  1483½  27

18.Canterbury ‘Crusaders’         38   10    4   24  1397   1555   24

19.Milton Keynes ‘Knights’        38    8    2   28  1290   1668   18

20.Workington ‘Comets’            38    2    0   36   969   1977    4

 

NOTE: One match, Crayford v. Weymouth, was not raced.

Yup, and many of those have now gone..

[waytogo28]

17 hours ago, acef said:

It's struggling as it is with a much lower calibre of rider. It would be financial suicide for pretty much every UK club

That's the point - it IS struggling as it is. No -one is prepared to pay for the GP stars to return ( at £500 to £1,000 a point ) and it can't survive now, as it is. The only way is a lower overall calibre of rider. "Stars" will emerge from that level and you would want to see them race. That is what happens in the NL. Drew Kemp is a superstar at that level. When they get to an even higher level then Poland and Sweden are the places for them to earn a crust.

[INCOGNITO]

As an EXAMPLE only this is the sort of standard we need to be looking at and charging no more than £12 entrance fee for adults and £25 a family ticket (2/2)

 

BELLE VUE - Craig Cook, Steve Worrall, Dan Bewley,  Paul Starke, Damian Drzodz, Kyle Bickley, NL 2.00

BERWICK - Josh Grajczoneck, Kevin Doolan, Aaron Summers, David Howe, N B Jacobsen, Jye Etheridge, NL 2.00

WOLVES - Rory Schlein, Kyle Howarth, Thomas Jorgensen, Luke Becker, Ashley Morris, Nathan Greaves, NL 2.00

 

With teams of this strength as an example you could run at wages that won't break the bank (see original post) and lower entrance fee to no more than £12. You still have seven riders wearing your club colours and they are not doubling up (NL only) and fans can relate to these riders much more when they are yours and not shared.

You get a varied fixture list with a different team visiting each week on your chosen race night. We have a wage bill that is affordable and as original post, the home track pays the set wages for riders from both teams using the attendance money so riders are not owed money and paid on the night they have just earned.

We see more places for British youngsters progressing and getting rides and we see just as entertaining races watching Worrall v Howarth or Howe v Becker as you do watching Doyle v Fricke or Thorssell v Bjerre. 

 

COST EFFECTIVE - RIDERS PAID - VARIED FIXTURES - YOUR RACE NIGHT - MORE BRITISH RIDERS - WEEKLY MEETINGS - YOUR TEAM

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

18 minutes ago, INCOGNITO said:

As an EXAMPLE only this is the sort of standard we need to be looking at and charging no more than £12 entrance fee for adults and £25 a family ticket (2/2)

 

BELLE VUE - Craig Cook, Steve Worrall, Dan Bewley,  Paul Starke, Damian Drzodz, Kyle Bickley, NL 2.00

BERWICK - Josh Grajczoneck, Kevin Doolan, Aaron Summers, David Howe, N B Jacobsen, Jye Etheridge, NL 2.00

WOLVES - Rory Schlein, Kyle Howarth, Thomas Jorgensen, Luke Becker, Ashley Morris, Nathan Greaves, NL 2.00

 

With teams of this strength as an example you could run at wages that won't break the bank (see original post) and lower entrance fee to no more than £12. You still have seven riders wearing your club colours and they are not doubling up (NL only) and fans can relate to these riders much more when they are yours and not shared.

You get a varied fixture list with a different team visiting each week on your chosen race night. We have a wage bill that is affordable and as original post, the home track pays the set wages for riders from both teams using the attendance money so riders are not owed money and paid on the night they have just earned.

We see more places for British youngsters progressing and getting rides and we see just as entertaining races watching Worrall v Howarth or Howe v Becker as you do watching Doyle v Fricke or Thorssell v Bjerre. 

 

COST EFFECTIVE - RIDERS PAID - VARIED FIXTURES - YOUR RACE NIGHT - MORE BRITISH RIDERS - WEEKLY MEETINGS - YOUR TEAM

That Berwick side is as expensive/strong as their current 7 for which they charge £15 (already lower than the norm) and do not make any money

Cutting the price to £12 would just reduce the income (and increase losses) by £1500 a meeting  - why would they vote for one big league like that?

The BV and Wolves sides would have reduced income of £6000+ per meeting and I dont see a reduction in strength in line with that for them either

Going by current Championship averages/equivalents those teams (IMO) are about 5 points too strong for the financial elements of your proposal

[DC2]

 

You think Thorsell, Masters & Heeps are no better than Jorgensen, Becker & NL 2 pointer? They’re at least 8 points better!

 

[INCOGNITO]

22 minutes ago, DC2 said:

 

You think Thorsell, Masters & Heeps are no better than Jorgensen, Becker & NL 2 pointer? They’re at least 8 points better!

 

Thorssell 8.5, Masters 8, Heaps 4.5 = 21

Jorgensen 6, Becker 4, NL 2.00 = 12

 

a reduction of the current team by 9.00 but these are just examples and using PL averages the teams shown are roughly about the same and in the case of Grajczoneck 6.5 at Berwick he and a 2.00 replace Gappmaier 5.0 and Pjipier 3.5 so not much difference than they are now

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

28 minutes ago, DC2 said:

 

You think Thorsell, Masters & Heeps are no better than Jorgensen, Becker & NL 2 pointer? They’re at least 8 points better!

 

Didnt say they werent - but those sides need a further 5 point reduction for the financials suggested

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

3 minutes ago, INCOGNITO said:

Thorssell 8.5, Masters 8, Heaps 4.5 = 21

Jorgensen 6, Becker 4, NL 2.00 = 12

 

a reduction of the current team by 9.00 but these are just examples and using PL averages the teams shown are roughly about the same and in the case of Grajczoneck 6.5 at Berwick he and a 2.00 replace Gappmaier 5.0 and Pjipier 3.5 so not much difference than they are now

Josg G is closer to 9 at Championsip level on his own.....

Even by your example of not much difference Berwick cant make it pay at £15 let alone your suggesed £12

[East End Fan]

How on earth anyone can think that Speedway in this day and age at ANY level could be offered at only a £12 admission.  Get real.

[ch958]

maybe if Newcastle or Worky or whoever aren't turning up every 4 weeks with select teams more fans would come back. Berwick v BelleVue or Wolves might be quite a pull in comparison. Even the return fixtures would be a change from the usual fare.

Its all well and good poo - pooing posts but whats the alternative?

[Halifaxtiger]

2 minutes ago, East End Fan said:

How on earth anyone can think that Speedway in this day and age at ANY level could be offered at only a £12 admission.  Get real.

Belle Vue Colts is £10.