Mattfordfan Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: And there waas me thinking you was a poole fan.You certainly missed the point, didnt you. All that typing so you can have a pop. You're missing the point starman. For example the last 4 league titles we won. 2015 - Janowski & Holder 2014 - Ward, Holder, Janowski, Pawlicki & Milik 2013 - Ward, Hancock & Janowski 2011 - Ward & Holder Therefore we should be winning the league in those years and Middlo's skills aren't being put to the test considering the 1-7's are head and shoulders above the rest. .................................................................................................................... Now in the new era of British Speedway when Poole Speedway is no longer lining up with world class riders Middleditch has done nothing. Done nothing when his managerial skills are now being put to the test whilst having to manage a completely different teams consisting of riders who aren't on the same level as the teams mentioned above. ...................................................................................................................... Since the Elite League has been rebranded as the SGB Premiership this is what has happened at Poole. Every year we get worse. When riders leave Poole they kick on straight away at other clubs. Middleditch consistently makes excuses for under-performing riders. Middleditch hasn't got the best out of anyone. Just like in any sport someone has to take the blame for the performances over the last few years and you have to look at the manager. It's very Arsene Wenger like. All good things must come to an end and people are backing Middleditch on his reputation just like the Arsenal board did with Wenger. Fair enough if it was one bad season then I would just say it's a bad year. But when we've had 3 bad season's on the spin and the majority of riders signed in those 3 years have under-performed then someone has to take the blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 7 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: IT was a generalisation ... tracks have a successful meeting then don't run for two or three weeks. Cannot keep blaming the World Cup. But if I said the sky was blue you would disagree. Maybe so .but quite clearly you never had a clue why Belle vue were not running next week.You would have to brain dead to run on the same night as a England World cup match .Nothing to do with blaming the world cup just common sense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 I van see MFF's point. But the person to blame for Poole's 2018 failure is whoever thought Kurtz would hold his own at #1. And allowed the Holder saga to continue with fans left in the dark. I expected more fron Josh G & Sundstrom, also. Admittedly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 5 hours ago, orion said: Maybe so .but quite clearly you never had a clue why Belle vue were not running next week.You would have to brain dead to run on the same night as a England World cup match .Nothing to do with blaming the world cup just common sense doesn't stop Wimbledon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 On 6/25/2018 at 10:03 PM, Matt Ford Fan said: All Poole fans know that I want Middlo gone but if they're happy with him and happy with the way the club has gone the last few years then good luck to them. 11 hours ago, Matt Ford Fan said: Not saying he's a poor manager. Just putting out some constructive criticism Not saying he is a poor manager? You have a strange way of putting it then!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestGorton1884 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) On June 25, 2018 at 12:28 AM, Matt Ford Fan said: Wouldn't mind the ex Glasgow manager. Its a fact. Not my problem if it rattles your cage. You scored 48 points tonight. We scored 42 points with terrible management skills. Anyone else would have used Kacper 7 times. He scored in every race. Sundstrom and Worrall scored in 2 races between them. Therefore your lot are lucky Middlo kept sending those 2 riders out instead of sending out Woryna. Typical childish reply. I'm right and your wrong. You tell me what Middlo has done in the new era of British Speedway and then ill keep my mouth shut. Obviously you wont tell me anything....Because he hasn't done anything. Its a fact.....See earlier reply but if you want to have a cry about it then go ahead. 2 riders were sent out time after time despite running consistent last places. Which made it easier for your boys. Like i said earlier Kacper scored in every race Sundstrom & Worrall scored in 2 races between them. "want to have a cry about it "? , " rattled my cage "?. Tell me, do you find it impossible to debate Speedway without throwing childish immature comments in from the get go ? I was at the meeting , and as well as Woryna rode, he didn't really impress until heat 14 Edited June 27, 2018 by WestGorton1884 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, WestGorton1884 said: "want to have a cry about it "? , " rattled my cage "?. Tell me, do you find it impossible to debate Speedway without throwing childish immature comments in from the get go ? I was at the meeting , and as well as Woryna rode, he didn't really impress until heat 14 I think you have got that all wrong WG1884, you can make a much better judgement on the meeting on your PC watching on speedway updates that actually at the track. Edited June 27, 2018 by TesarRacing 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, TesarRacing said: I think you have got that all wrong WG1884, you can make a much better judgement on the meeting on your PC watching on speedway updates that actually at the meeting. I expect we will get another keyboard warrior update tonight from wimborne road in which I look forward to just one difference though I will be there to see it happen 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 10 hours ago, orion said: Maybe so .but quite clearly you never had a clue why Belle vue were not running next week.You would have to brain dead to run on the same night as a England World cup match .Nothing to do with blaming the world cup just common sense HASN'T stopped Leicester ... racing against Wolves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 37 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: HASN'T stopped Leicester ... racing against Wolves Why stop a meeting anyway ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 2 hours ago, WestGorton1884 said: "want to have a cry about it "? , " rattled my cage "?. Tell me, do you find it impossible to debate Speedway without throwing childish immature comments in from the get go ? I was at the meeting , and as well as Woryna rode, he didn't really impress until heat 14 Not the point though is it. Sundstrom and Worrall done nothing. Woryna was the better rider of the 3 because he scored in every race before Heat 14. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 2 hours ago, TesarRacing said: I think you have got that all wrong WG1884, you can make a much better judgement on the meeting on your PC watching on speedway updates that actually at the track. You can actually. Because the only thing that matters is points. If someone is not scoring points then they should be fired. Put in 110% all you like but if the team isn't getting any points in return for the riders effort then we wont win. Shanes gave it 110% every week but he wasn't good enough to beat an opposing rider and it let the team down. It's the points that matter.....Because points win you meetings........The whole point of a Speedway meeting is to earn yourself and your team points. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, PHILIPRISING said: HASN'T stopped Leicester ... racing against Wolves There is still time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 8 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: HASN'T stopped Leicester ... racing against Wolves Wow ..that is so clever of them ..that clearly makes it the right to do then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 13 hours ago, hyderd said: doesn't stop Wimbledon. Yet again well done to them a master stroke . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 13 hours ago, hyderd said: doesn't stop Wimbledon. If you mean the tennis, it kind of has as it's been delayed by a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 20 hours ago, Matt Ford Fan said: You can actually. Because the only thing that matters is points. If someone is not scoring points then they should be fired. Put in 110% all you like but if the team isn't getting any points in return for the riders effort then we wont win. Shanes gave it 110% every week but he wasn't good enough to beat an opposing rider and it let the team down. It's the points that matter.....Because points win you meetings........The whole point of a Speedway meeting is to earn yourself and your team points. You have spouted some rubbish on here but this really tops them all!! So the way a rider wins his points is of no consequence as to the possible tactics of a team manager!! Oh dear! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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