Moranboys Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, 4thbender said: Yeah. Everyone suggests I ought to let it go but no-one seems able to actually give a logical response to my assertion that Sheffield have the better results and should be in the semis. Anyone with a basic understanding of mathematics can see that basing decisions on average league-points when the teams have differing numbers of fixtures is always going to give an unfair advantage to the team with fewer fixtures. Personally I would never be happy with my team qualifying for a semi-final if their performance didn't merit them being there. There's no joy in winning on a technicality. Just ask the guy who climbed two-thirds of the way up Everest but claimed that since he'd done it in half the time, his achievement was better than Edmund Hillary. well said.utt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 wasn't sheffields fault they had more fixtures.they did and thats how it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 simple way is to run another comp with all teams i n one table , top 2 play off for glory , 3rd and forth play off for those positions . run it at the start of the season over 2 months when all teams are struggling to get meetings on . almost sorted . . just waiting for the negs now . B.T.W. Glasgow arnt crying yet .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Haha. This is a legendary thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks123 Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 2 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: A bit like not accepting a simple principle of average points per match?? That's probably the fairest way as removing the bottom team scores from the points and having fewer teams in your group will favour that team. Peterborough 46.25 - Others 43.75 Sheffield. 48.167 - Others 41.667 Glasgow 45.333 - Others 44.333 Sheffield have a points difference per match off 6.5 points so they should go through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 it was until you came on . ha , ha , ha . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) Now we have our four qualifiers how long will it be before we actually find out who plays whom, where and when? Going to be tricky considering that all of these team's have ongoing excuses for not riding without their full complement of rider's available? End of the season maybe? Edited June 18, 2018 by Lord Lucan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 32 minutes ago, Lord Lucan said: Now we have our four qualifiers how long will it be before we actually find out who plays whom, where and when? Going to be tricky considering that all of these team's have ongoing excuses for not riding without their full complement of rider's available? End of the season maybe? Draw sometime in September for ties in October 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 workington v scunthorpe lleakside v tuther lot Glasgow v NO ONE lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 hour ago, jenga said: workington v scunthorpe lleakside v tuther lot Glasgow v NO ONE lol I would like to think Workington draw Lakeside in the semi finals so they can redeem themselves after the thrashing they got there in the league match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 27 minutes ago, New era Panthers said: I would like to think Workington draw Lakeside in the semi finals so they can redeem themselves after the thrashing they got there in the league match. wouldnt we all .. but i can see it being a cost thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Lakeside were in the same group as Peterborough so I can't see them drawing each other in the semis , does anyone know when the draw is ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 3 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Draw sometime in September for ties in October With the number of Home fixtures Workington still have to run be lucky if they can fit it in this season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 I would think Comets v Peterborough as our best/better option being as we have riders that like to go AWOL at the other two, at least this way one of those tracks will be removed from our equation!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 Should've just had the winners of each group going into a 3TT final like they had in the eighties and nineties, then we wouldn't have all the arguments about who the better second place team is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PE7Panther Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) Maybe the final s/f spot should've been decided in alphabetical order....... "Ooooh yesss! But REVERSE alphapetical order..." comes the cry from South Yorkshire Edited June 19, 2018 by PE7Panther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 8 hours ago, Bash said: Should've just had the winners of each group going into a 3TT final like they had in the eighties and nineties, then we wouldn't have all the arguments about who the better second place team is. Good idea, I always enjoyed the craven shield 3tt finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 On 6/19/2018 at 11:32 AM, Bash said: Should've just had the winners of each group going into a 3TT final like they had in the eighties and nineties, then we wouldn't have all the arguments about who the better second place team is. It's all about the money, two semi's and a final = six extra fixtures altogether this way v one final after the group stages....decent idea nonetheless!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 I thought this year was all about saving money, with each team having a leg of the final in a 3TT each team would only have 1 meeting less if they made it through to the final as the format is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 When you put it like that there is a certain simplicity to the logic!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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