speedy bill Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) Why do we allow teams to run foreign riders at reserve instead of giving British riders the places,it worked in 2014 so why not now.I dont think the Poles run foreign ridrs at reserve . I also cant understand why Josh Auty has not got a place in the premiership,he is third in the championship averages and still without a team spot are some promoters daft to let a talented rider out of a team spot.ANY thought why this is guys. Edited June 3, 2018 by speedy bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 I don't know what his Prem ave would be right now, if he was signed.Up and down in the Prem before if I remember.. Can easy win a race as come last. Would make a good reserve, if he stayed there. Not likely though. To good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 Auty has failed at top flight level over and over again. that said I prefer him to be a reserve than a foreigner. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Auty has failed at top flight level over and over again. that said I prefer him to be a reserve than a foreigner. Still a better rider than Kyle Howarth though Steve, he took him from the back at his home track Sheffield in the WC semi. Also Auty has more of a chance than Howarth at Belle Vue of mixing it and being a spoiler in the British Final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 Two issues here Sidney, and I agree with you on both, Josh Auty has ridden for the Stars and done well. He is far too good a rider no to have a team place, but probably the averages are too high and promoters feel they can get better value elsewhere. I don't Know, but he is more than capable rider..... Allowing foreigners into the reserve slots is crazy. These places should be the gateway for British riders gaining experience and upping their game. We have a new rider in Jasper Andersen at reserve, Nice lad, but he is no better than lots of young English riders. Surely it would have been better for our sport to look the future and supply our own riders with opportunities ...... These BSPA people, never rule things as one would imagine they should.. .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 6 hours ago, stevebrum said: Auty has failed at top flight level over and over again. that said I prefer him to be a reserve than a foreigner. Nail on head. I certainly wouldn't argue against reserves all being Brits. Josh Auty's top league average is 4.68 so it's not too high. Howarth started the season on 6.64 so the two can't be compared as first division riders. I just don't think promoters feel that Auty can be relied upon to be consistent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 37 minutes ago, g13webb said: These BSPA people, never rule things as one would imagine they should. Nor have sufficient imagination to devise changes that benefit the sport. Fan feedback is futile, however positive ( it's all taken as criticism, which always hurts the thin skinned ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 Poole got two poles riding at reserve in the latest averages what chance have young British got when this happens because of averages . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, ray c said: Poole got two poles riding at reserve in the latest averages what chance have young British got when this happens because of averages . You could have Jacobs and Perks instead of those two, but that’s not the Poole mentality! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, DC2 said: You could have Jacobs and Perks instead of those two, but that’s not the Poole mentality! Why would any team choose Jacobs and Perks over Woryna and Szczepaniak ! Considering no one has signed either of them i would suggest its every teams mentality ... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 hour ago, DC2 said: You could have Jacobs and Perks instead of those two, but that’s not the Poole mentality! Until he bsps bring in you must use at least two Brits in the team it will never change yes I do know Poole don't use Brits .and less be honest if holder was available we would not have any Brits in Poole team ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 Not sure why this topic is on the Premiership section? Surely its the Championship teams that should have a minimum of 3 young Brits in each team, plus a limit on the number of foreign riders?! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 11 hours ago, speedy bill said: Why do we allow teams to run foreign riders at reserve instead of giving British riders the places,it worked in 2014 so why not now. Did it work on 2014? I remember riders who were wildly out of their depth being thrown into the Elite League in the name of development. The "draft" was the pivotal moment for me, when the top league no longer held the presitge or cachet it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) It must change next season that’s for sure unless the bspa have some form of death wish for UK speedway. Go back to the 70’s and allow one foreigner per team! Where would Poole be then! Edited June 4, 2018 by GWC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, GWC said: It must change next season that’s for sure unless the bspa have some form of death wish for UK speedway. Go back to the 70’s and allow one foreigner per team! Where would Poole be then! Where would any team be ? Edited June 4, 2018 by ray c 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, GWC said: It must change next season that’s for sure unless the bspa have some form of death wish for UK speedway. Go back to the 70’s and allow one foreigner per team! Where would Poole be then! Unfortunately while in the EU we can't dictate like that due to free trade. What we can do is say that each team must have 3 British rider's. It's all in the wording. Edited June 4, 2018 by Daniel Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Not sure why this topic is on the Premiership section? Surely its the Championship teams that should have a minimum of 3 young Brits in each team, plus a limit on the number of foreign riders?! Just what speedway needs, another 'us and them' post well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Just what speedway needs, another 'us and them' post well done. At some stage the question will be asked where and how UK speedway can continue and not go broke. Better we ask it now than let a few (teams promoters owners) carry on as if nothing can be done and we run it the same way till it’s gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Just what speedway needs, another 'us and them' post well done. Poole fan, what do you expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 12 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: Still a better rider than Kyle Howarth though Steve, he took him from the back at his home track Sheffield in the WC semi. Also Auty has more of a chance than Howarth at Belle Vue of mixing it and being a spoiler in the British Final. I once saw Andy Phillips beat Hans Nielsen. Guess he's now elevated to an all time great on that basis. Howarth is already better than Auty has EVER been and will likely improve further in the future. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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