Steve Shovlar Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, DC2 said: Yes, as you can see, it can break up teams. And to make matters worse you’ll get a club like Poole, with lots of assets, some of whom have never ridden for the club, not releasing them for loan until they’ve signed their seven. Look how frustrated Hans Andersen and Chris Holder became, wanting to ride for other clubs. How can Poole truly expect Kenneth Bjerre (their asset, in whom they’ve never shown any interest) to wait for their nod every year before he can sign for a club? Other clubs have no one to blame but themselves. Sitting there doing nothing while Matt Ford cleaned up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: But Batch could tell him he would not ride for Poole. Please please please! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 I agree with most comments regarding assets/registration and it’s well past it’s sell by, this system has been very good to Ford both with loan fees, favours from clubs who want his riders and has played a big part in his success, the whole story smacks of envy because despite this advantage his team are not doing very well this year and are the opposite end of the league table to where he wants to be. It’s a real shame non of his better assets want to ride for him and it’s a given that he should have kept Andersen, a fact I am told he acknowledges now. Maybe Matt is losing his touch, not looking too good for the play offs this year but still a long way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 This year has shown me that sometimes you can try to be to clever when building teams going to much on averages.Go by your instinct when i think Poole could of had Kurtz,J.Holder,Andersen,Woryna, Shanes,C.Holder( ok warranted problem with Chris) and another that side looks far superior to the one now.All Matt had to do was sort his issues out with the Holder's and welcome Kacper in with one more rider makes you think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 44 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Please please please! I think Batch has ridden at Poole this year nearly as much as he's ridden at Swindon!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 1 hour ago, DC2 said: Because next year Poole could “insist” on signing their asset, Troy Batchelor, and break up the Swindon team. Batch has only just come in, though, at the expense of a Swindon asset who the rules prevented them from retaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted June 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, Grachan said: Batch has only just come in, though, at the expense of a Swindon asset who the rules prevented them from retaining. The point is that we could not be certain of keeping Batch next year - in the interests of continuity - if Poole wanted him. Batch has ridden for us for five seasons, compared to just one at Poole 10 years ago, and yet he is a Poole asset! Daft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: Other clubs have no one to blame but themselves. Sitting there doing nothing while Matt Ford cleaned up. That’s really working out well - don’t you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzAssStar Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 16 hours ago, one of clubs said: You reap what you sew. Go on ................... why don't you just stick the needle in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 46 minutes ago, Steve0 said: That’s really working out well - don’t you think? I guess it has as other clubs have to pay quite a bit of money every year to Matt Ford for the loan of his riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted June 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: I guess it has as other clubs have to pay quite a bit of money every year to Matt Ford for the loan of his riders. Yeah, we call it “keeping Poole at the bottom of the table”. Lol Matt’s so daft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 33 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: I guess it has as other clubs have to pay quite a bit of money every year to Matt Ford for the loan of his riders. And then he forks out loan fees for Worrall, Kildemand and Nielsen - seems odd with all those assets! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: I guess it has as other clubs have to pay quite a bit of money every year to Matt Ford for the loan of his riders. I thought I read somewhere that he didn't get any loan fee's for the assets that he inherited from Peterborough. Not sure if that is true but it would be a big loss to the club's income if that was true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 On 6/2/2018 at 1:03 PM, DC2 said: Now I’m not a big fan of Matt Ford but this quote from the Bournemouth Echo takes the biscuit: “The situation with Chris Holder has damaged us severely, especially when the club has assets like Hans Andersen and Kenneth Bjerre at Leicester, Troy Batchelor at Swindon and Krzysztof Kasprzak at Rye House. Clearly, these riders would have been a great help to us at this point and yet they have not been available due to the rules and regulations.” Correct me if I’m wrong, but couldn’t Ford have included at least one of those assets instead of Sundstrom and did he expect the others to sit around, waiting for Poole injuries, rather than sign for other clubs? Could he have included club asset Ellis Perks instead of Szzzzpaniak? A selfish, spoilt attitude! Ford, and Poole, had the opportunity to sign as many of their own assets and the riders mentioned here at the start of the season, it was their choice not to. Where I agree is the situation they have found themselves in with Chris Holder and the affect it has had on the team but here again I would find it amazing that Poole were unaware of Holders issues regarding his visa before the season started. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, IronScorpion said: It is not just Poole, though, that have assets/registrations & don't/won't use them. This year, the 1 over 8average rider for team building did not help but what about at the lower end. SSSSHHH, your not suposed to say that, it goes against the grain on here.. Edited June 3, 2018 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 4 hours ago, DC2 said: Swindon 46.74 Wolves 47.44 Belle Vue 43.98 Poole 42.54 Rye House 43.73 Somerset 41.93 Kings Lynn 38.46 Leicester 43.02 Those are the 2017 finishing averages. For 2018, to encourage continuity and fan loyalty any team should have been allowed to keep the same riders, regardless of average, or build a new team to the fourth highest average ((Rye’s 43.73). That could have meant the top three clubs keeping the same team and the bottom five replacing a couple of riders with better ones, whether they be established Championship scorers or emerging riders (UK or foreign). If they chose emerging riders they would truly be investing in their team’s future and would get closer to and ultimately overtake the top teams. That was put in place 20 years ago and once Ipswich cleaned up it didnt even make it to the next season..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted June 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: That was put in place 20 years ago and once Ipswich cleaned up it didnt even make it to the next season..... That’s the problem. No strategy. Every year rules are made on the hoof. Whatever happened to the draft reserves or the two Brits rule, both uncharacteristically sensible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, DC2 said: That’s the problem. No strategy. Every year rules are made on the hoof. Whatever happened to the draft reserves or the two Brits rule, both uncharacteristically sensible. Well when you have a club that doesn't like having Brit assets hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Scrutton Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 Its all right having a list of riders that you own But they must want to ride for you They can't be forced as far as I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted June 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 The Draft Reserve system made sense, apart from it should have been used in the CL with minimum 6 point NL riders and in the PL with 4 to 6 point CL riders and they should have been given averages after 6H & 6A, moving into the 1-5. Fodder like Jack Smith shouldn’t be in the PL yet & Aussies, like Etheridge, shouldn’t be benefitting ahead of GB youngsters. Stefan Nielsen, Perks and Jacobs should be PL reserves. Likewise, Flint, Kemp, Kinsley and Jenkins should get minimum 12 match CL averages (or preferably a season) before they turn up in the PL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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