Gazc Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 50 minutes ago, scaniaman said: think its time a proper team manager was appointed Funny you should say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Gating tart said: What do you expect if they aren’t getting paid ? But they are definitely protesting by not trying and all the so call bike problems Either your post's re payment of riders are mischief or there is some truth in what you post. Either way what are you gaining by broadcasting such unsubstantiated hearsay on here ?. If you analyse the logic , riders protesting by deliberately not scoring points will not increase any potential monies they may or may not be owed so is therefore not in the interest of rider, club or crowd levels. Either substantiate what you are circulating or leave it alone.The paucity of home fixtures has been been detrimental to the Comets and further evidence of how speedway repeatedly shoots itself and member clubs in the foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 Poor meeting tonight but what can you expect against a team that only had two riders trying,Procter and Campton......Worky should really think about some changes especially at the top end...Hammers continue to impress as a really solid outfit that look like they are really enjoying themselves home ,and away,, the track was in excellent condition and there can be no excuses for Workys poor performance tonight....... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Gazc said: Funny you should say that. aye , whats stewie doing now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 22 minutes ago, waco said: Poor meeting tonight but what can you expect against a team that only had two riders trying,Procter and Campton......Worky should really think about some changes especially at the top end...Hammers continue to impress as a really solid outfit that look like they are really enjoying themselves home ,and away,, the track was in excellent condition and there can be no excuses for Workys poor performance tonight....... we have the excuses ready its a numbers game, are you ready and tonights lottery numbers are 1,5, 15,51, and your bonus bolls up is a stand in team manager @ leakside number 8 . anyone having these numbers can contact workington speedway and ask how on earth you can get rid of them ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 13 hours ago, marko said: Dan Bewley just comes across as a bit of a throttle jockey to me, easy to do it on the big tracks with fast bikes but Arena requires skill and throttle control. Bar Ty and Mason, the comets were very poor, but of course we are very strong at home because we have a very good team of really four heat leaders plus useful backup. Easy to forget how young and inexperienced he is, riders who have been round the block many more times than him find Arena difficult. If he does turn out to ne just a 'throttle jockey' then great, that' what he will need to be to succeed in Poland, Sweden and the GP's. Given the choice its far better to be good on the big tracks than the small ones. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 afternoon , can anyone tell me who the workington team manager was @ leakside last night . cheers . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 Yes Dan is very young and will only get better and from what I have heard he is down to earth so hopefully doesn't believe all the hype which was sort of my point, some have made him out to be this great hope, he might be one day, but not yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 According to the program is was Steve Whitehead but whether they even had a manager present I have no idea, I would have been well cheesed off if that was my team and no real attempt was made to keep the score respectable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, marko said: According to the program is was Steve Whitehead but whether they even had a manager present I have no idea, I would have been well cheesed off if that was my team and no real attempt was made to keep the score respectable. thank you for that information marko . it explains a lot . would have been better off with one of the Diddy men from knotty ash in charge . ..thanks again . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 2 hours ago, waco said: Poor meeting tonight but what can you expect against a team that only had two riders trying,Procter and Campton......Worky should really think about some changes especially at the top end...Hammers continue to impress as a really solid outfit that look like they are really enjoying themselves home ,and away,, the track was in excellent condition and there can be no excuses for Workys poor performance tonight....... Word of praise for two of Lakeside's lesser lights. Firstly, Congratuations to Kyle Newman on his first paid max for the Hammers. After a steady but solid start to the year he I'd starting to kick on now. With Kyle naturally on the inside line ans Adam on the outside they are becoming a formidable pairing. Secondly , Alfie Bowtell still finds it hard at this level , but I notice he is becoming a very good gater, particular off the inside two. Off the outside gate he seems to lose his way on bends 1&2 a bit but that will come with experience. Two points is better than 0 and if he can extend that to 3or 4 by the end of the season he will have done well. The crowd love him because he is a trier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 14 hours ago, marko said: Dan Bewley just comes across as a bit of a throttle jockey to me, easy to do it on the big tracks with fast bikes but Arena requires skill and throttle control. Just a poor night I guess. Bewley lists Wolves and Rye House among his favourite tracks (not seen him at Rye, he’s excellent at Monmore) and he is clearly much more than a big track specialist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 21 minutes ago, E I Addio said: Word of praise for two of Lakeside's lesser lights. Firstly, Congratuations to Kyle Newman on his first paid max for the Hammers. After a steady but solid start to the year he I'd starting to kick on now. With Kyle naturally on the inside line ans Adam on the outside they are becoming a formidable pairing. Secondly , Alfie Bowtell still finds it hard at this level , but I notice he is becoming a very good gater, particular off the inside two. Off the outside gate he seems to lose his way on bends 1&2 a bit but that will come with experience. Two points is better than 0 and if he can extend that to 3or 4 by the end of the season he will have done well. The crowd love him because he is a trier. 13 minutes ago, Fourentee said: Just a poor night I guess. Bewley lists Wolves and Rye House among his favourite tracks (not seen him at Rye, he’s excellent at Monmore) and he is clearly much more than a big track specialist. Just like the good old days then Addio the crowd love a trier last year Alfie guested for the Robins once and rode his socks off.The crowd really appreciated him he beat Greaves once and was always in the mix early on he is at the right club Lakeside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 This idea that you only need to be a throttle jockey with a fast bike to excel on the big tracks is utter rubbish. Those who have watched Dan at the NSS not just beating good riders but beating them from the back, have seen that he has done it not by having the fastest bike but through using his skill and ability to choose the right racing lines and waiting for the best opportunity. So far this year he has, amongst others, passed and beaten Batchelor, Andersen, Masters and Kasprzak and I'm not talking about passes on the first two bends. All of the those are very good riders who have bikes just as fast as Bewley and who are more than capable of getting the right set ups. Tracks like Lakeside and Wolverhampton do require different but also important skills but they are tracks that by their nature give riders who race there regularly a big advantage. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 37 minutes ago, Aces51 said: This idea that you only need to be a throttle jockey with a fast bike to excel on the big tracks is utter rubbish. Those who have watched Dan at the NSS not just beating good riders but beating them from the back, have seen that he has done it not by having the fastest bike but through using his skill and ability to choose the right racing lines and waiting for the best opportunity. So far this year he has, amongst others, passed and beaten Batchelor, Andersen, Masters and Kasprzak and I'm not talking about passes on the first two bends. All of the those are very good riders who have bikes just as fast as Bewley and who are more than capable of getting the right set ups. Tracks like Lakeside and Wolverhampton do require different but also important skills but they are tracks that by their nature give riders who race there regularly a big advantage. leaksiders would not know an up and coming rider if one ran over them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 Yeah he has scored loads at the NSS beating a ton of good riders but last night he only beat Zach, his other point coming from a race where there were only three finishers, lets have a little bit of reality here, yes he is an exceptional rider around NSS in the top league but when a rider only scores a couple of points as a second string in the 2nd tier, people need to pipe down stop putting pressure on the lad, he still has a very long way to. Don't forget Arena have had their fair share of riders down the years who could beat the very best riders in the world around Arena but were a shadow of that on others track, its nothing new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 Bewley has so far this season averaged 7.85 at the NSS and 7.05 away, so it's not just at the NSS where he is doing well and particularly so for a rider who is only at the start of his third season in the sport. You can understand therefore why he is rated so highly. He is definitely not a rider just doing well at a specialist home track. However, I agree that we shouldn't put too much pressure on him and accept that he may welll lack consistency and have the occasional nightmare meetings at this very early stage of his development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) Bewley is an exceptional talent .but at Lakeside he was going in very deep on the bend entry's,,and it was not working for him on the night.he will of course learn from that ..He is still the best young rider around since Robert Lambert....And that is coming from a Leaksider !,,,,!! Edited June 2, 2018 by waco 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 3 hours ago, marko said: Yeah he has scored loads at the NSS beating a ton of good riders but last night he only beat Zach, his other point coming from a race where there were only three finishers, lets have a little bit of reality here, yes he is an exceptional rider around NSS in the top league but when a rider only scores a couple of points as a second string in the 2nd tier, people need to pipe down stop putting pressure on the lad, he still has a very long way to. Don't forget Arena have had their fair share of riders down the years who could beat the very best riders in the world around Arena but were a shadow of that on others track, its nothing new. I think that is where you have it wrong, he is not exceptional at the NSS he is very very good of course exciting as well but as Aces 51 pointed out his home average is 7.85 ( I thought it was much higher than that was at reserve for a bit as well) 7.05 away.He holds his own as well away from home really well and is learning fast we shall see in the British Final how far he has come he has a real fighting chance again great experience for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 6 hours ago, Aces51 said: This idea that you only need to be a throttle jockey with a fast bike to excel on the big tracks is utter rubbish. Those who have watched Dan at the NSS not just beating good riders but beating them from the back, have seen that he has done it not by having the fastest bike but through using his skill and ability to choose the right racing lines and waiting for the best opportunity. So far this year he has, amongst others, passed and beaten Batchelor, Andersen, Masters and Kasprzak and I'm not talking about passes on the first two bends. All of the those are very good riders who have bikes just as fast as Bewley and who are more than capable of getting the right set ups. Tracks like Lakeside and Wolverhampton do require different but also important skills but they are tracks that by their nature give riders who race there regularly a big advantage. You know better than me Aces but that is one thing that Dan needs to do gradually upgrade his aquipment easier said than done of course His bikes i believe are not the best and a lot of his points he scores are because of his skill and ability.Look i am not for one minute saying his equipment is shabby but it is a expensive sport and it takes time to build your team up and get a great package together to really push on.Even Robert Lambert said ( who has two great parents who back him to the hilt) that he is at least two years off at having a fighting chance in the GP arena so it is tough even Tai showed that in his maiden GP year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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