Hamish McRaker Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 3 hours ago, MattK said: I think you'd lose half of the Premiership and a third of the Championship riders with the above suggestion. I don't think your various options would make much difference as there are only a handful of Swedes in the leagues who would benefit from a Tuesday exception and lots of Danes who would be looking for a Wednesday exception, which means only your final option might appeal to more than a handful of riders. You also have two other issues, firstly the problem of Poland slowly expanding onto Friday and secondly your definition of "international event". Presumably this would include GPs and the qualifiers? What about U21s both individual and team events? SEC and various Euro individual, team and pairs events? Domestic championships which many also now include qualifiers? This should cover off many of the Saturdays across the season. Therefore, if you want to demand priority and not alienate the majority of riders you are limited to running on just Monday and Thursday. Yes that's the last resort scenario if none of the other above models are acceptable to make enough riders available. But some people don't think that most UK based riders would stick with their Polish arrangement if presented with a choice. Only one way the BSPA can find the answer I suppose.....ask them!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Aces51 said: I don't think the number of riders choosing Poland would be anything like the numbers some are suggesting. For many of the current riders, who race mainly for Polish league 1 and 2 teams, a guaranteed 30 plus meetings in the UK in one big league would be more attractive than being part of a Polish league 1 squad with no guarantee of being a regular pick. They may not like having their opportunity to race abroad curtailed but I think many would accept it. The UK has got to find a way to operate that initially makes the sport here sustainable and then able to grow. Staying as we are is not an option. Is there any point in bringing hyperthetical situations like one big league with a guaranteed..,...into the discussion?We can say if that scenario happened then the Poles will up the ante and make offers the riders couldn’t refuse etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Hamish McRaker said: Yes that's the last resort scenario if none of the other above models are acceptable to make enough riders available. But some people don't think that most UK based riders would stick with their Polish arrangement if presented with a choice. Only one way the BSPA can find the answer I suppose.....ask them!! I was quite optimistic that British and Australian riders would stay, but assumed most European riders would opt out. I find the overarching concept of the weakest league trying to dictate terms somewhat ridiculous. Poland can make rider demands. We should be trying to build our league back up by compromising with the stronger league not by alienating ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 22 hours ago, stevehone said: so going back a short time, Jack Holder (having a contract with a Polish club) missing Peterborough meetings on a Sunday wasn't really anything that could be stopped if Poland have priority on that day Except of course that the Holdergate situation last year was not a Peterborough fixture, but one of the BSPA Super 7 events which teams are required to be represented by their top riders by average. The details in the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 31 minutes ago, Tsunami said: Except of course that the Holdergate situation last year was not a Peterborough fixture, but one of the BSPA Super 7 events which teams are required to be represented by their top riders by average. The details in the contract. What you mean like Newcastle’s Robert Lambert for example. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, bigcatdiary said: What you mean like Newcastle’s Robert Lambert for example. How much did George get ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Tsunami said: Except of course that the Holdergate situation last year was not a Peterborough fixture, but one of the BSPA Super 7 events which teams are required to be represented by their top riders by average. The details in the contract. 43 minutes ago, Tsunami said: How much did George get ? Who knows!!! Ged’s Problem was he was too open. That doesn’t make the situations any different, according to your ‘contract details’. Maybe you know more than me. They both missed BSPA events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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