Fromafar Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, SharpenRake said: Well I did say this would be close and to be fair to Edinburgh josh pickering gifted us points in heats 2 and 14 and we still couldn't take advantage. I know theres reasons but 2.5 hours for a match, covered in dust and you wonder how many will come back. Only decent race heat 10 with Harris riding well. So surprised at criticism of him on Facebook and forum. Paid 8 from 3 then crashed due to the track and came out in 15 cos Worrall wouldn't. The manager needs to realise their is more to the job than celebrating wins. Needs to earn respect from fans and riders, not easy Only decent race Ht 10! What match were you at? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Only decent race Ht 10! What match were you at? OK the kids race was good but apart from that I'd have to ask you to name them although to be fair the dust didn't help so might have missed some of thrilling action Edited May 27, 2018 by SharpenRake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weejeemy Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 Today was the worst dust bowl conditions I have ever seen in over 30 years of watching speedway. I will not be back on a sunny afternoon again. Thank goodness for Friday nights. Mind you our team will be lucky to make the playoffs riding like they did today.Overall very disappointed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 Only my opinion,but Pickering had a couple of good races Riss brothers were in the thick of it .Open Stand on exit from 4th bend was dust free,check the flags and move accordingly . Wells was boring 5good gates!!!!! bet your wishing some of the Tigers were boring.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 Harris has gone backwards. Panthers were right to let go of him and Starke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, weejeemy said: Today was the worst dust bowl conditions I have ever seen in over 30 years of watching speedway. I will not be back on a sunny afternoon again. Thank goodness for Friday nights. Mind you our team will be lucky to make the playoffs riding like they did today.Overall very disappointed Yep there were a few heats i couldn't see a thing had to hope Jim Coyle could to fill in a programme. Regards the play offs think we can forget that notion for another season as things stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 Harris out surely. Taken the piss all season long. Who gives a toss about his engine issues the expierience and money hes accumilated over the years should mean zero engine problems . Time to get shot. As for Sarjeant, never understood why any team would want him. A run of the mill 3 pointer and will never be anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, Pinny said: Harris out surely. Taken the piss all season long. Who gives a toss about his engine issues the expierience and money hes accumilated over the years should mean zero engine problems . Time to get shot. As for Sarjeant, never understood why any team would want him. A run of the mill 3 pointer and will never be anything else Such a way with words!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 Natural order restored. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 Surely Worrall should have been out for Glasgow in heat 15. Well done to Monarchs. I completely wrote off our chances progressing to the quarter finals after Friday night. Went reluctantly today to Ashfield. Erik seems to be comfortable in the captains role and what a performance from Ricky. A relatively young team did us proud. Hope Max is okay. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 Bring back the Glesgae Gaffer imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 Well well well, that was very unexpected after going 9 down I thought it was going to be a long afternoon how wrong was I. Fantastic comeback and unlucky to not win by more. Track was a bit dodgy with the holes on bends 1 and 3, Worrall certainly wasn’t happy about it. Feeling smug again and not seen Ashfield empty that quick for a little while, what a lovely Sunday afternoon. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 2 hours ago, stewmac said: Don't think any Monarchs fans saw that coming, especially after it seemed all to be slipping away early on. But speedway can be a funny old game - and Tigers fans must be wondering what they do now. To be honest it probably creates a conundrum for the Monarchs' management too, as I'm sure there must have been some thoughts about possible changes even before today. But should they now put faith in this squad or go ahead and think about changes...? Don't think any of us saw it coming either, but we can have no complaints. When it got to the nitty gritty your top men were superb and ours weren't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS550 Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said: Well well well, Feeling smug again Yeah, Ricky rode.. well. Yes, your smugness, you did... well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 1 hour ago, BigBoaby said: To answer your points. 1. Can't have it every which way though. In going for a strong top 5, it naturally leaves less to play with for the reserve slots. Alternative is to have only a strong top 3 or 4 and more of an even spread. If the lowest of the top 5 is say around 6.5 and the senior reserve about 3.5, this is obviously a total for the fifth and sixth rider of a combined 10 points. If its more evenly spread then its gonna be such as 5.50 and 4.50, or 5.25 and 4.75, etc, still using up 10 points. Its all swings and roundabouts. it isn't as if Glasgow's team was well under the points limit , it was exactly as the points limit was it not. After that you're hoping for riders to maintain or improve their average, and that being the case I honestly don't think it greatly matters what the initial configuration is so long as all the of the points limit is used up or close to it and at least a couple of riders improve on their starting averages and the rest at least maintain theirs, I honestly don't think the initial spread greatly matters, for every one you increase or have a stronger rider there's another position that has to be a lesser starting average and probably weaker. 2. They were anticipating an increase in average, or at least hat he would maintain his starting average, think he's increased it so far has he not. 3. You seem to be referring to 2013 season when Screen retired early before the end of the season. You've overlooked that in his first season with the Tigers in 2011, Screen was very potent and one of the main reasons why Glasgow won the 2011 league title, Screen also won the Pairs that year with Grieves, so it isn't a fair comparison, Screen was still a very very potent and capable rider when he joined Glasgow in 2011. 4. We can hope. In response: 2. Anticipating an increase in Sarjeants average is based on nothing but hope. 3. Agree Screen was immense when he joined us and that continued throughout 2011. IMO he was fading fast in 2012 and woeful in 2013 though I appeciate he rode for us when injured at times. 4. This is the first major test for the management (collective). The structure and make up of the team is self inflicted, no riders are accountable for this. The team is floundering, some riders may be ripping the urine and the fans are disgruntled. Thats the crux, the customers are unhappy, decisive action is needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 1 hour ago, JeremyCorbynFan said: Harris has gone backwards. Panthers were right to let go of him and Starke. Thanks for your input its good to know that you have been allowed access to a a phone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidmango Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 I think overall we have just been very inconsistent as a team other than Sarjeant and Harris everyone else has had their good and bad matches. Lewis Kerr - incredible season so far but struggled today. Claus - again top season so far couldn’t really ask for more. Paul - really struggling since picking up that injury a few weeks ago, shown again today by only scoring 4/5. Richie - slow start but has found some form now. Jack - sensational for a 2 pointer! James - questions have to be asked when he is being consistently outscored by the ‘junior’ reserve. Chris - incredible run of bad luck and I’m sure he will come good. People blaming all the issues on the new TM clearly know something I don’t. Almost every interview that has taken place has comments about how great the team spirit is and in a profession where pay is related to performance I really find it hard to believe he is having such a negative impact on proceedings. Ps the ref was terrible today and that cost us even allowing for the poor performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 34 minutes ago, Endeavour said: Surely Worrall should have been out for Glasgow in heat 15. Well done to Monarchs. I completely wrote off our chances progressing to the quarter finals after Friday night. Went reluctantly today to Ashfield. Erik seems to be comfortable in the captains role and what a performance from Ricky. A relatively young team did us proud. Hope Max is okay. Proper fan and rewarded for supporting your team, can't believe I've just said that but we'll done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owenbros Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 The team manager has a responsibility to get the team going, high fives and hugs are for the end of a match. The interval more often than not seems to play into the visitors hands. Stewart would get these guys going. Harris days must be numbered, he should be strolling this. Track preparation is paramount although the owners clearly don't give it the respect that it is due. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Solidmango said: I think overall we have just been very inconsistent as a team other than Sarjeant and Harris everyone else has had their good and bad matches. Lewis Kerr - incredible season so far but struggled today. Claus - again top season so far couldn’t really ask for more. Paul - really struggling since picking up that injury a few weeks ago, shown again today by only scoring 4/5. Richie - slow start but has found some form now. Jack - sensational for a 2 pointer! James - questions have to be asked when he is being consistently outscored by the ‘junior’ reserve. Chris - incredible run of bad luck and I’m sure he will come good. People blaming all the issues on the new TM clearly know something I don’t. Almost every interview that has taken place has comments about how great the team spirit is and in a profession where pay is related to performance I really find it hard to believe he is having such a negative impact on proceedings. Ps the ref was terrible today and that cost us even allowing for the poor performance Team spirit as in our top scorer refusing to take heat 15 as he wasnt keen on track conditions. Now that is taking the p*ss. I wasn't keen on track conditions im on to my third shower tonight and still have some of the track on what little hair i have left. But i didn't extract the urine and leave at heat 14 i saw it out unfortunately , serious questions need asked as that doesn't sound like good team spirit to me. Edited May 27, 2018 by Gazc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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