Najjer Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just now, Bald Bloke said: Josh scored better than he has lately.. 7 from 4 is ok. Spanner did his 5 point ave, as did Woryna 4 from 3. Worrall 6 from 4 is ok. Linus did a lot better, Kurtz kept his average to under 8 ( if that matters, I don't know). Hope Stefan is ok Always amazes me how Speedway fans fail to grasp averages. If you are to win a meeting, riders have to exceed their averages and not just match them! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Finished all the ironing yesterday thanks Well done you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted May 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Nasty tumble for Neilsen who in the crucial heat 12 had battled through to third to give Poole a 4-2 when he lifted coming out of the 4th bend and came off the back. Not sure how his ankle got injured. Did it get clipped by Heeps? Typically in the rerun Greaves got a superb gate and couldn’t be caught. Partly cost Poole the win but you can look back at Brady allowing himself to be pipped on the line by Schlein as other points thrown away. The track tonight was the slickest I have seen it in quite a few years. The riders are said to have requested it but there was a blue groove on the 4th bend, something not seen for at least 5-6 seasons. If riders want it that slick they need to be able to get out of the starts and in the first 7 heats Wolves won 6 of them. Same as last week against Rye. We just don’t have a number one at the moment to lead the way. Brady would make good backup to Holder but it’s time to look elsewhere. In the first half of the meeting we were pathertic. Last out of the starts time and again. But from heat 8 the team woke up and we saw some fighting spirit. Lets now hope there are changes to be had. Matt said in tonight program to bring in Magic or similar would cost three times the gate money every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, Najjer said: Always amazes me how Speedway fans fail to grasp averages. If you are to win a meeting, riders have to exceed their averages and not just match them! I know that. Linus exceeded his tonight. It only needed 1 more and Poole could of won. All riders ain't going up their average every meeting, or over a season even. .You will get 1,2 or 3 per meeting that might. Overall you might get 3 maybe 4 riders up it over a season I guess, And it usually ain't by much. MFF singled out Josh with 7 from 4. I thought that was an ok return.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingRacer2017 Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 What about Zagar?? Cheaper than Lindgren & Woffinden?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Nasty tumble for Neilsen who in the crucial heat 12 had battled through to third to give Poole a 4-2 when he lifted coming out of the 4th bend and came off the back. Not sure how his ankle got injured. Did it get clipped by Heeps? Typically in the rerun Greaves got a superb gate and couldn’t be caught. Partly cost Poole the win but you can look back at Brady allowing himself to be pipped on the line by Schlein as other points thrown away. The track tonight was the slickest I have seen it in quite a few years. The riders are said to have requested it but there was a blue groove on the 4th bend, something not seen for at least 5-6 seasons. If riders want it that slick they need to be able to get out of the starts and in the first 7 heats Wolves won 6 of them. Same as last week against Rye. We just don’t have a number one at the moment to lead the way. Brady would make good backup to Holder but it’s time to look elsewhere. In the first half of the meeting we were pathertic. Last out of the starts time and again. But from heat 8 the team woke up and we saw some fighting spirit. Lets now hope there are changes to be had. Matt said in tonight program to bring in Magic or similar would cost three times the gate money every week. The last comment sums it up for me, no club in Britain have the money to pay what the top riders want unfortunately. The risk far outweighs the reward IMO. Even if the money was in place the Poles will want some massive assurances that if their rider was injured the British club picks up their polish wage. It just isn’t guna happen. I think the Poole team was built on so many “ifs” which haven’t really clicked yet. I’m not fishing for a bite this is just how I see it. Edited May 23, 2018 by hyabb17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: I know that. Linus exceeded his tonight. It only needed 1 more and Poole could of won. All riders ain't going up their average every meeting, or over a season even. .You will get 1,2 or 3 per meeting that might. Overall you might get 3 maybe 4 riders up it over a season I guess, And it usually ain't by much. MFF singled out Josh with 7 from 4. I thought that was an ok return.. Isn't Sundstrom a 7.5 rider give or take? So he didn't exceed his average. Grajczonek scoring 7 isn't exceeding his average. More often than not, the team which wins the league I'd bet at least 5 of the team up their averages over the course of a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 shame Poole couldn't tease KK away from Rye House, he always ups his game when riding for Poole apparently 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Najjer said: Isn't Sundstrom a 7.5 rider give or take? So he didn't exceed his average. Grajczonek scoring 7 isn't exceeding his average. More often than not, the team which wins the league I'd bet at least 5 of the team up their averages over the course of a season. Linus exceeded his staring ave tonight' was 7.22. His average tonight was 8.00. Not much, but he did . Spanner and Woryna have both upper their starting average a little overall this season. I know Josh didn't exceed his starting ave tonight, 7.34 and tonights ave was 7.0, but it was a good improvement on his poor average so far for this season. Edited May 23, 2018 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just now, Bald Bloke said: Linus exceeded his staring ave tonight was 7.22. His average tonight was 8.00. Not much, but he did. Spanner and Woryna have both upper their starting average a little. I know Josh didn't exceed his starting ave tonight, 7.34 and tonights ave was 7.0, but it was a good improvement on his poor average this season. Apologies, I thought Sundstrom scored 9 points and not 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) decent meeting tonight racing got better as the meeting went on . got a little dusty i think we are short of a no1 like ss said lets hope matt can find one Edited May 24, 2018 by ray c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southampton Pirate Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, ray c said: decent meeting tonight racing got better as the meeting went on . goy a little dusty i think we are short of a no1 like ss said lets hope matt can find one Probably the best meeting of the season. If there was some "average fixing" going on, the riders disguised it very well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 thought that was a disgrace tonight when Stefan crashed, only Neil and our loan rider Ritchie came to comfort him, no sign of the skipper 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, stevehone said: shame Poole couldn't tease KK away from Rye House, he always ups his game when riding for Poole apparently If the crowds don’t improve at Rye then KK won’t be the only one on the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 9 hours ago, ray c said: We should expose wolves as not the best of side's tonight there away form is as bad as ours ? How was it?? Out of our 4 away league matches we have only failed to pick up a point once. That's 4 points scored from 4 away matches. Averaging a point each away match. That's probably the reason why we are top of the league and Poole are bottom. Very odd comment to make all the same. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Think Poole were expecting too much from the returning Poles. I hadn't ecpected Woryna to be scoring so few points. Guess his good equipment is on the continent, using 2016 lawnmower when in Pirates blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capone Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 a draw.....no one saw that coming.....more to the point can anyone see whos going......next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 7 hours ago, Arthur54 said: thought that was a disgrace tonight when Stefan crashed, only Neil and our loan rider Ritchie came to comfort him, no sign of the skipper You are only allowed to let team manager and captain out as the medical team do not want riders hanging around and interfering. Mind doesn't happen very often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, stevebrum said: How was it?? Out of our 4 away league matches we have only failed to pick up a point once. That's 4 points scored from 4 away matches. Averaging a point each away match. That's probably the reason why we are top of the league and Poole are bottom. Very odd comment to make all the same. maybe it was but i thought we would beat you tonight . but im afraid this poole side its not going anywhere unless we make changes . need a no1 to start with Edited May 24, 2018 by ray c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 7 hours ago, Arthur54 said: thought that was a disgrace tonight when Stefan crashed, only Neil and our loan rider Ritchie came to comfort him, no sign of the skipper to be fair to josh he was in the race as well but i know what your saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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