racers and royals Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 9 hours ago, kelvinht said: If Sunday through Wednesday are reserved for poland/Sweden/UK/Denmark, then surely all international meetings should be held on Friday/Saturday so no clashes. What stops these two qualifiers being on Saturday. Why do the FIM not consider the league, which are essentially creating the quality riders they need. The FIM are sadly between a rock and a hard place with these qualifiers- they struggle to get federations/staging clubs to put on these meetings- hence no semi`s in the GP qualifying this year. If it wasn`t for Germany and Italy coming forward all the time there would be major problems. Monday May 21st is a bank holiday in Germany so you can understand the Abensberg club wanting that date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 3 hours ago, g13webb said: Surely, if Belle Vue cant field a team then Lynn would agree to a postponement . (Seem to remember Poole was given that facility when they were to race against Lakeside some years back). I cant believe meetings like this can ever benefit the sport and any success Lynn may achieve would only be a hollow victory.. anyway. Sure, I would love the Stars to win, but its need to be raced for, not given to them.... Ridiculous situation.... It's an absolutely ridiculous situation but there's no chance of King's Lynn cancelling. They wouldn't cancel the Leicester meeting knowing the oppositions 2 best rider's were missing. The Lynn management knows this is an excellent opportunity to bag 4 away points. It ain't a given but the chances are much greater than if Belle Vue have a full team. It's all that is wrong with Speedway, all about taking advantage of others misfortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbobee Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Leicester also looking for one maybe two guests on Mon as Hans Andersen is also in the same meeting as Fricke and Cook plus possibly Danny King injured - could be a scramble for the three names mentioned from Poole and maybe Richard Lawson Ricky Wells ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: It's an absolutely ridiculous situation but there's no chance of King's Lynn cancelling. They wouldn't cancel the Leicester meeting knowing the oppositions 2 best rider's were missing. The Lynn management knows this is an excellent opportunity to bag 4 away points. It ain't a given but the chances are much greater than if Belle Vue have a full team. It's all that is wrong with Speedway, all about taking advantage of others misfortune. Very true, this meeting is certainly not in the best interests of British speedway, If Kings Lynn (Chapman) didn't cancel against Leicester he certainly wont against us, no doubt he sees it as an opportunity to gain away points, that its not his club losing financially only enhances his opportunity. And this is the man who is Chairman and the person who is supposed to be taking the sport forward? I have always liked Kings Lynn as a club and this would have been a good meeting with two full strength sides, sadly im not paying to watch half a side, the money I save will go towards the Swindon trip on the 31st. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, bellevueace said: Very true, this meeting is certainly not in the best interests of British speedway, If Kings Lynn (Chapman) didn't cancel against Leicester he certainly wont against us, no doubt he sees it as an opportunity to gain away points, that its not his club losing financially only enhances his opportunity. And this is the man who is Chairman and the person who is supposed to be taking the sport forward? I have always liked Kings Lynn as a club and this would have been a good meeting with two full strength sides, sadly im not paying to watch half a side, the money I save will go towards the Swindon trip on the 31st. I too will be giving this farce a miss... However... On here and various other forums we will get several contributors to the threads discussing whom are the best guests... Several will comment that "it will still be good racing".... And come the result, several will comment on how it was either a good result or a bad one, as if it was an actual bona fide sporting contest between two professional sports teams vying for a National Title.. Sometimes, Speedway fans really do get the operating model (and sport) they deserve... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 This reminds me of when a mate got married. Just before the ceremony her dress and ring was taken and she had to use a boiler suit and a ring pull off a tin of beans & sausage. She tried to cancel but the organisers said if she did she would have to pay £1000 and be docked three points?? Even though she was in tears she went ahead with it. To make matters worse some people who had supported her up to that point refused to attend when they heard what was going on, even taking their wedding gifts away with them. Much worse they were heard calling her a dick as they left. I tried to reason with these people but one of them hit me in the face with a spade then they all stood around me laughing and kicking. I’m looking forward to Monday’s meeting as a way of putting all this behind me. I kept the spade just in case I run into Buster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) I know many Belle Vue fans don't like Buster but surely it's the Belle Vue promotion that have messed up here for giving this date as an option for a previously called off meeting. Having just looked at the fixture list the next available Monday for these two sides would be the17th September,bit too late really. Edited May 18, 2018 by tellboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 41 minutes ago, tellboy said: I know many Belle Vue fans don't like Buster but surely it's the Belle Vue promotion that have messed up here for giving this date as an option for a previously called off meeting. Having just looked at the fixture list the next available Monday for these two sides would be the17th September,bit too late really. Or they just call it off as "not in the interests of (British) Speedway"...? Been done before I believe?.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ace Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Burst water main might come in handy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Burst water main would no doubt lead to another fine. We need to go with a faulty generator as this is apparently risk free. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 This date must have been agreed to in the knowledge that some riders might be missing? People are talking about Lynn not wanting it called off but do Belle Vue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 WITH so many vacant dates why can't this sort of thing be avoided? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: WITH so many vacant dates why can't this sort of thing be avoided? ??? Come on Phil, how long have you been involved in and around Speedway Promoters??.. I presume the question must have been rhetorical as I am sure you know the answer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 45 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: WITH so many vacant dates why can't this sort of thing be avoided? Excellent question, when and IF you get an answer maybe you will let the paying customers know cos it seems promoters don't want to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 It can. Here’s how. The last line is a give away....... “Our meeting against Scunthorpe on the 19th May will be postponed to a later date in the season due to ourselves being without Nicolai, Dan and Bradley who have been called up for Grand Prix Qualifiers. We would like to thank Scunthorpe for their co-operation in this”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 30 minutes ago, ouch said: It can. Here’s how. The last line is a give away....... “Our meeting against Scunthorpe on the 19th May will be postponed to a later date in the season due to ourselves being without Nicolai, Dan and Bradley who have been called up for Grand Prix Qualifiers. We would like to thank Scunthorpe for their co-operation in this”. Wow... Same Sport...? Similar scenario...? Two different outcomes...? Amazing....! Who would have thought that some clubs can still actually use common sense...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted May 19, 2018 Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 20 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: It's all that is wrong with Speedway, all about taking advantage of others misfortune. In the "New Era" at King's Lynn Speedway I thought all that narrow minded parochialism was behind them. But it is true that you can't teach an old dog new tricks. When Buster became The Big Boss of UK speedway we thought that his much shouted criticisms at others promoters would result in progress. All just dreams, turned to dust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted May 19, 2018 Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 Give Stoke a ring they can give you loads of reasons for not running a meeting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 19, 2018 Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 2 hours ago, waytogo28 said: In the "New Era" at King's Lynn Speedway I thought all that narrow minded parochialism was behind them. But it is true that you can't teach an old dog new tricks. When Buster became The Big Boss of UK speedway we thought that his much shouted criticisms at others promoters would result in progress. All just dreams, turned to dust. Since taking over as Chairman he's been an absolute failure. That's not me saying that's the opinion of other teams supporters as we'll now see 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 On 5/18/2018 at 7:48 PM, PHILIPRISING said: WITH so many vacant dates why can't this sort of thing be avoided? Is there that many?27th June and the 18th of July are the only vacant dates if they are still wanting to ride on a Monday or a Wednesday that is.Incidentally both these dates are a Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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