g13webb Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 What is it about the organisations that can get their planning so wrong. This weekend there are 3 qualifiers on Saturday 19th, and one on Monday 21st. Surely it wouldn't have be too difficult to have all those riders programme to race in a Monday league match to be given one of the Saturday qualifier rounds. Lynn have been spared this time round with both Niels and Lambert doing a Saturday qualifier, whereas Cook and Friske are doing the Monday one... Its difficult to prophesise the outcome until we hear about the replacements Belle Vue intend to use. With Leicester Vs Wolves and Swindon Vs Rye House on the same night, the choices are few and far between. One thing for sure, the Lynn Stars won't have better chance of picking up a point or two, on this fortunate opportunity. You could say all the cards stacked against Belle Vue. and Lynn are holding all the 'ACES' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Was gonna go to this as it's only about an hour from me. As it's guests again (although not the Stars) will sit this one out. Guests will be difficult for Belle Vue as there's 2 other fixtures on that night with Leicester v Wolverhampton & Swindon v Rye House. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Would prefer them to postpone and rearrange....but this may not be possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Was thinking the only way we might avoid defeat to the Stars in this one without Cook & Fricke was if K Bjerre was one of the riders available to step in, which of course he isn't. Await guest announcements with interest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 58 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Was gonna go to this as it's only about an hour from me. As it's guests again (although not the Stars) will sit this one out. Guests will be difficult for Belle Vue as there's 2 other fixtures on that night with Leicester v Wolverhampton & Swindon v Rye House. How come you thought it was funny when Lynn couldn't get a guest for NKI and used Auty for Toft.Now all of a sudden it will be difficult for for Belle Vue to get guests.The same then applied to KL surely. It's a good job Belle Vue aren't missing Bewley as he is irreplaceable at the moment for Belle Vue especially on his lowly average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 This is crazy the gates are down already this season with Monday nights.With Belle vues top 3 missing for this meeting the place could be like a ghost town just rearrange it for when we can see both teams at full strength. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Yet again British speedway shoots itself in the foot and fans are taken for mugs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Scrutton Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 British Speedway takes a back seat when it comes to riders in Championship meetings You are quite right they could have been other nights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 hours ago, tellboy said: How come you thought it was funny when Lynn couldn't get a guest for NKI and used Auty for Toft.Now all of a sudden it will be difficult for for Belle Vue to get guests.The same then applied to KL surely. It's a good job Belle Vue aren't missing Bewley as he is irreplaceable at the moment for Belle Vue especially on his lowly average. The reason I found it funny is that Leicester found suitable replacements for every hurdle whereas Lynn found it such a problem and put the blame on Cookie, unfairly imo. As so happened Lynn ended up with the better deal which was unexpected. Nobody would of had Auty down for paid 11 which is better than Iversen's form so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: The reason I found it funny is that Leicester found suitable replacements for every hurdle whereas Lynn found it such a problem and put the blame on Cookie, unfairly imo. As so happened Lynn ended up with the better deal which was unexpected. Nobody would of had Auty down for paid 11 which is better than Iversen's form so far. The way the Stars are riding at the moment , R/R would always be the preferred option . Auty likes the AFA and usually scores well. The difference between him and MPT is minimal . The biggest factor here was that Leicester were missing all their big hitters which helped Lynn's cause . My biggest argument was not the issue of riders missing but the club keeping everything a secret. Strange, come Wednesday afternoon, we had announcements and Tweets coming by the bucket load. All that was needed to be done was a notice on the website, saying we are without Niels and MPT next week, we are doing all that is possible to cover them. So easy and would have answered all the queries about who was missing and why... If they had thought of the fans in the correct way, that should have been the first thing they did, not the last one... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 4 hours ago, g13webb said: What is it about the organisations that can get their planning so wrong. This weekend there are 3 qualifiers on Saturday 19th, and one on Monday 21st. Surely it wouldn't have be too difficult This kind of planning requires common sense and a practical approach to problem solving, all of which is lacking in decision makes at this level. Either they don't "see" it at all or don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, g13webb said: If they had thought of the fans in the correct way, that should have been the first thing they did, not the last one... Either Buster really believes that he has the right as the promoter to decide what to release and when, or he doesn't really care what the shrinking number of fans think. Is it a case of it's my toy and I will take it away, so there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Daniel Smith said: The reason I found it funny is that Leicester found suitable replacements for every hurdle whereas Lynn found it such a problem and put the blame on Cookie, unfairly imo. As so happened Lynn ended up with the better deal which was unexpected. Nobody would of had Auty down for paid 11 which is better than Iversen's form so far. Must have missed where Lynn put the blame on Cook.Only see someone post on here that he was riding but not from anyone official or connected to the club i must admit.Where was it the club blamed Cook? People on here were actually upset that they hadn't heard anything at all. Edited May 17, 2018 by tellboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 43 minutes ago, tellboy said: Must have missed where Lynn put the blame on Cook.Only see someone post on here that he was riding but not from anyone official or connected to the club i must admit.Where was it the club blamed Cook? People on here were actually upset that they hadn't heard anything at all. The only time I saw anyone from the club name Cook was a tweet from Robin Brundle after the eventual line up was announced. No blame was made or even hinted at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 And of course we are still without the injured Steve Worrall. I can't see any available PL riders who could be adequate replacements at the NSS. Kurtz is inconsistent, Holder not as good as any of those missing and Josh G is struggling. The proper decision is to rearrange the meeting but it doesn't look as if that will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, Aces51 said: iAnd of course we are still without the injured Steve Worrall. I can't see any available PL riders who could be adequate replacements at the NSS. Kurtz is inconsistent, Holder not as good as any of those missing and Josh G is struggling. The proper decision is to rearrange the meeting but it doesn't look as if that will happen. I'm not a lover of these fixtures, but they were always on the horizon when implementing the FRN idea. Yes, we may have eliminated the problems with D/U but when teams have their big hitters missing, inevitably there aren't anybody adequate to fill their places, because other teams will usually be racing the same night. Its not the ideal scenario of promoting the sport nor does it encourage fans to spend their hard earnt money... Edited May 18, 2018 by g13webb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvinht Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 If Sunday through Wednesday are reserved for poland/Sweden/UK/Denmark, then surely all international meetings should be held on Friday/Saturday so no clashes. What stops these two qualifiers being on Saturday. Why do the FIM not consider the league, which are essentially creating the quality riders they need. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, kelvinht said: If Sunday through Wednesday are reserved for poland/Sweden/UK/Denmark, then surely all international meetings should be held on Friday/Saturday so no clashes. What stops these two qualifiers being on Saturday. Why do the FIM not consider the league, which are essentially creating the quality riders they need. Because the FIM show no regard for league racing or domestic speedway for that matter. All too often the FIM is run by people for whom speedway is a sport staged occasionally on Sundays in minor nations. The rights and needs of the major nations have always been secondary. I saw an FIM report many, many years ago on an FIM event held in Britain. What was the first section? Quality of product? Value for money? No, it answered the question "Were the FIM representatives looked after and were there requests met?" or words to that effect. Now we have a speedway man in control in Armando Castagna things should have improved but for too long the FIM was the preserve of the small-time motorcycle club organiser who had risen, usually way beyond their competence. Edited May 17, 2018 by RobMcCaffery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted May 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Surely, if Belle Vue cant field a team then Lynn would agree to a postponement . (Seem to remember Poole was given that facility when they were to race against Lakeside some years back). I cant believe meetings like this can ever benefit the sport and any success Lynn may achieve would only be a hollow victory.. anyway. Sure, I would love the Stars to win, but its need to be raced for, not given to them.... Ridiculous situation.... 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 one word...................Pathetic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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