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Take heat 9 away - then look at the standard of the rest of the meeting

It comes across on tv very much as a track for the fastest bikes as opposed to the best riders

Don't remember saying that about Hyde Road, or tracks like Blackbird Road or The Shay - entertainment almost guaranteed throughout the nights at those three, thanks to the riders, not the bikes

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54 minutes ago, Midland Red said:

Take heat 9 away - then look at the standard of the rest of the meeting

It comes across on tv very much as a track for the fastest bikes as opposed to the best riders

Don't remember saying that about Hyde Road, or tracks like Blackbird Road or The Shay - entertainment almost guaranteed throughout the nights at those three, thanks to the riders, not the bikes

Can’t agree with you - I thought it was a good meeting that came across well on TV (apart from the sparse crowd).  It entertained me and that doesn’t always happen with tv matches nowadays.  What an incredible track the NSS is and what a level headed star young Bewley is!

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1 hour ago, Midland Red said:

Take heat 9 away - then look at the standard of the rest of the meeting

It comes across on tv very much as a track for the fastest bikes as opposed to the best riders

 

If most meetings were of that standard I for one wouldn't have walked away from the sport. I'm not in favour of super tuned bikes but last night didn't come across to me as a track simply for fast bikes. If you think Batchelor has more talent/trackcraft than Bewley for example I suggest you are rather biased.

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9 hours ago, Coventry_Bee said:

On tonight's showing I think he could. King isn't where he was 2 years ago, Nicholls wins or is last and just can't work the place out. Cook is struggling and he needed a strong start to the season to get his confidence up. 

Dan Bewley is great around everywhere at the moment, he is lucky he looks to be about 9 stone and on a speedway bike it really does matter. Be interesting to see if he bulks out as he gets older as missing the gate and riding round people is great, he needs to learn to mix it up on the first bend and that will come as he is so young but I worry being so lightweight he could struggle in that area of it. But.. Take nothing away from he is a special talent and doesn't look to have an ounce of arrogance that some half his talent carry. A joy to watch and they should give him the wild card for Cardiff tomorrow. 

 

 

Over the years many of the best riders have been very lightweight, and the great Peter Craven never had a problem ! Hopefully his feet are kept firmly planted on the ground as he has a fantastic opportunity to develop into an incredible rider.

Disappointed to here Pearson and Tatum constantly rabbit on as if he is unbeatable. A bit more maturity and common sense approach from them is more likely to be helpful to Bewley.

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52 minutes ago, Fred Flange said:

To be fair there were only 13 or 14 races with any passing and only 3 or 4 of those had me out of my seat, so I can see where you are coming from.

With 8 different heat winners who exactly had the fastest bike? 

Sorry, 9 different heat winners.

Quite obviously, there was one fastest bike and they all had a go on it! 
Nothing at all to do with the track being THE best in the country!

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Was an enjoyable meeting - you certainly can't keep a rider behind you very easily if they are faster.  Batchelor was making starts but didn't have the same pace.  Funny how the inside was king to start with then the outside and this reverted to the inside again near the end.  Have to admit Pearson's shouting is starting to grate, nothing wrong with KT though.

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9 hours ago, solrac said:

Good meeting imo.  If every track was like Belle Vue and Somerset then the numbers attending would rise. If you want weekend speedway then fine, just accept that it would have to be at Semi-Pro, amateur level.

Get what you're saying but not exactly a true statement as Belle Vue or Somerset are never packed out on a regular meeting.

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19 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said:

Was an enjoyable meeting - you certainly can't keep a rider behind you very easily if they are faster.  Batchelor was making starts but didn't have the same pace.  Funny how the inside was king to start with then the outside and this reverted to the inside again near the end.  Have to admit Pearson's shouting is starting to grate, nothing wrong with KT though.

Agree with your comments about Pearson but I find both awful, BT should have found new people.  

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13 hours ago, Grachan said:

Must be great watching Dan Bewley every week, and on a track like that. If he keeps up riding like that then BV look a good bet for champs.

Enjoyed the meeting despite the loss.

I still think they should have got everyone into the main stand, though.

How many tracks charge different admission for different parts of the stadium don't see any point in that at all

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3 minutes ago, ray c said:

How many tracks charge different admission for different parts of the stadium don't see any point in that at all

The track may be good but the experience for fans is not, in my view.  On my second visit (first was World Cup so that doesn't count) I had no idea where to queue and wanted to stand on bend 2.  It was a long queue I was standing in at the main entrance but luckily I did speak to the person next to me who told me I had to go out of the stadium bit and walk around a car park and there'll be a little gate where I had to go for bend 2.  There was one catering van which took forever to get served and I missed one of the races.  The meeting was good but the experience could have been so much better.

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17 minutes ago, ray c said:

I wonder how good Dan bewley will get what an exciting prospect for British speedway and he comes across as a smahing young lad .could have the no 1 race jacket at Belle Vue soon ?

He is top of 2018 averages but as rolling averages being used will be quite a while till he gets to number 1.

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5 hours ago, Midland Red said:

Don't remember saying that about Hyde Road, or tracks like Blackbird Road or The Shay - entertainment almost guaranteed throughout the nights at those three, thanks to the riders, not the bikes

You are talking about tracks that closed down over 30 years ago, it would have been interesting to see how today's rocket ships would have fared on those tracks, sadly we'll never know, it's a different sport these days.

15 hours ago, hyderd said:

Hopefully the powers that be will realise that they are killing speedway over here, change the race nights to suit all fans (not just the chosen few;)) and let profesional people run our sport.

Genuine question: What was the official reason given for FRN? I thought it was to stop (or cut down) on rider absences due to the double up rule. I must admit that so far this season there seem to be a lot less guest and R/R than in recent years, which I am thankful for... but it's no good if you're playing in front of empty houses!

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7 minutes ago, iainb said:

You are talking about tracks that closed down over 30 years ago, it would have been interesting to see how today's rocket ships would have fared on those tracks, sadly we'll never know, it's a different sport these days.

Yes, sadly it is a different sport these days and that is the main reason for the loss of fans from years ago. Change is not always for the better as is shown in the case of UK speedway's "development".

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2 hours ago, ray c said:

I wonder how good Dan bewley will get what an exciting prospect for British speedway and he comes across as a smahing young lad .could have the no 1 race jacket at Belle Vue soon ?

As Rob R said, the rolling averages will rule that out, for this season at least ;) I don't know what he's doing different this season, or who does his bikes, but he's flying. As you said Ray , he comes across as a lovely lad, very grounded for such a young age. BV have got a gem there.

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3 hours ago, ray c said:

How many tracks charge different admission for different parts of the stadium don't see any point in that at all

Only Belle Vue as far as I know.

However , it was the intention of Morton and Gordon to have a lower price for those that did not want to pay for seating in the grandstand.

When I started watching in the 60’s , Hyde road had the popular side and the main stands near the starting gate.... two prices and you were not allowed to transfer to the dear side until the second half.

The differing price structure is the reason why you cannot move anywhere in the stadium during the meeting.

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