Popular Post Sidney the robin Posted May 12, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 I have followed the youth scene for a while and thing's are looking pretty good for the future and for me Neil Vatcher is a unsung hero he has really pushed us on as a nation.He does a great job his enthusiasm is infectious and it would be great if a few Brits can crack it and actually go on and have good speedway career's.Lambert leading the way Bewley improving by the minute and the likes of Saunders,Kemp,Flint,Rowe,Atkins, (etc) doing great the future looks exciting just thought Neil deserves lots of credit. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted May 12, 2018 Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 Agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 12, 2018 Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 9 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: I have followed the youth scene for a while and thing's are looking pretty good for the future and for me Neil Vatcher is a unsung hero he has really pushed us on as a nation.He does a great job his enthusiasm is infectious and it would be great if a few Brits can crack it and actually go on and have good speedway career's.Lambert leading the way Bewley improving by the minute and the likes of Saunders,Kemp,Flint,Rowe,Atkins, (etc) doing great the future looks exciting just thought Neil deserves lots of credit. Been with him all afternoon at the Redcar round of the BYC. Great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted May 13, 2018 Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 Doing a gtreat job is neil under difficult circumstances. Some really good kids coming through at every level and plenty of talent on show yesterday 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted May 13, 2018 Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 The contribution and absolute dedication from Neil and supporting team is a major positive for British Speedway. Amongst so much negativity and self interest they maintain an essential youth lifeline. Several promising prospects coming through, gives us some hope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted May 13, 2018 Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 Is Neil Vatcher part of that new Great Britain Speedway Team set-up, or is he working independantly from them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Don’t forget his wife Jackie too. Both go above and beyond and have helped Adam enormously over the last 6 years since he first started racing in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 57 minutes ago, Jonny the spud said: Don’t forget his wife Jackie too. Both go above and beyond and have helped Adam enormously over the last 6 years since he first started racing in the UK. Quite agree Jonny. Unbelievable work rate and responsibilities by the Vatcher team. Add the SCB job as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 19, 2018 Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 Not really a comment on Neil Vatcher as I'm sure he's doing a fine job but more of a comment on the whole "youth policy" in SGB... I was wondering how long the 3rd tier of British Speedway has been in operation and what is the highest achievement by a British rider to come through that league (and before you all clammer to write Woffy! Woffy! Woffy! I think we can all agree that he learnt his trade in Aus) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secsy1 Posted May 19, 2018 Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 5 hours ago, iainb said: Not really a comment on Neil Vatcher as I'm sure he's doing a fine job but more of a comment on the whole "youth policy" in SGB... I was wondering how long the 3rd tier of British Speedway has been in operation and what is the highest achievement by a British rider to come through that league (and before you all clammer to write Woffy! Woffy! Woffy! I think we can all agree that he learnt his trade in Aus) Didn`t Craig Cook, Steve and Ritchie Worrall all start in the National League?? Have they not all attained well deserved achievement's? Personally they are all exceptional and continue to excel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 19, 2018 Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, secsy1 said: Didn`t Craig Cook, Steve and Ritchie Worrall all start in the National League?? Have they not all attained well deserved achievement's? Personally they are all exceptional and continue to excel. I thought they all came from MotoX? Did they ride in the 3rd tier? I honestly don't know? In fact thinking of the bigger picture does anybody know how the "big stars" of today started their speedway careers? The young Poles, Vaculik, Zagar, Lindgren etc. Did they come through youth leagues or did they just have the ability and burst onto the scene? I know the Danes used to be quite proud of their youth setup, but for all the kids they had coming through they didn't even qualify for the SWC final last year Edited May 19, 2018 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 19, 2018 Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 4 hours ago, secsy1 said: Didn`t Craig Cook, Steve and Ritchie Worrall all start in the National League?? Have they not all attained well deserved achievement's? Personally they are all exceptional and continue to excel. Yes, Cook though Redcar Cubs to Workington, The Worrals from MotoX went to Scunny and were in the NL. At different times both Steve and Richie used to ride in ALL three leagues at the same time. I don't agree that Woffy gained all his experience in OZ. He rode at Scunny and was bought by Silver for Rye House and also to CVS at Wolverhampton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadster Posted May 19, 2018 Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 Didn't Craig Cook feature for Buxton? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted May 19, 2018 Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 Adam Ellis started at the IOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Think it's probably fair to say that Chris Harris (St Austell) has achieved most after coming through the 3rd tier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 18 hours ago, Chadster said: Didn't Craig Cook feature for Buxton? Potentially on the verge of big things, how long was he at Buxton for? 14 hours ago, Jonny the spud said: Adam Ellis started at the IOW How long was Adam at the IOW for? 36 minutes ago, The Cheese said: Think it's probably fair to say that Chris Harris (St Austell) has achieved most after coming through the 3rd tier Yes, good shout... and who can forget his win in Cardiff in 2007? It's just something I heard in commentary on the Swedish Speedway that got me thinking. The commentator mentioned that Robert Lambert, the next great hope for British Speedway, "learnt his trade" in Germany. This got me to thinking that how many riders that have come through the 3rd tier of British Speedway (BS) have gone on to "make it" and that now the 3rd tier of BS must have been running for something like 15 years or so (I don't know how many exactly) could it be deemed a success, from the standpoint of producing British talent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) Did Woffinden not cut his teeth at that level with Scunthorpe ? Were him and Josh Auty not reserves in the 3rd tier together . Auty might not have reached the same heights as Woffinden , but he's still done ok . As has the retired Bridger , Stevie Worrall and Paul Starke . Add to that an Aussie with a British father who rode in the 3rd tier at Buxton - Nick Morris Edited May 20, 2018 by Paulco 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Whichever way you look at it it is not that many at all. If the third tier hadn't existed but we had either second halves, junior league or something else i imagine those same guys would have made it just the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Interesting to look back on Wiki that a 3rd tier has now been in operation in BS since 1994 and reading through the history, if it is to be believed, that shortly after its introduction it was restructured so as not to be just a Youth Development League. Whichever way you look at it 24 years and 3 GP riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 hour ago, iainb said: Interesting to look back on Wiki that a 3rd tier has now been in operation in BS since 1994 and reading through the history, if it is to be believed, that shortly after its introduction it was restructured so as not to be just a Youth Development League. Whichever way you look at it 24 years and 3 GP riders And many more journeymen of a decent standard to give them an occupation, and for speedway fans to watch and enjoy. Not everyone needs to be a GP star to claim to have made it as a speedway rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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