waytogo28 Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 10 hours ago, Hawk127 said: Unfortunately nothing upmarket as far as speedway is concerned otherwise each GP would be sold out. It does not work at the highest level and league speedway is a long way short. It is simply not a spectacle that some would have you believe and is way down the list on the must spend when it comes to disposal income. It has too many rules for a simple sport and the rider skills do not exist with bikes too powerful for the tracks. Standardise the bikes, improve rider skills, forget the other speedway nations and charge £10 per adult, £1.00 for under 16’s with weekly meetings on race nights that will attract the best crowds (probably Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday) and get back to basics so as to attract new talent then you might have some hope. As it stands clubs who cannot afford to run two home and away meetings because they think they might survive with fewer meetings are delusional and running on a night that does not bring in the punters is financial suicide. Fully agree with that. I was writing very tongue in cheek. And if the above ideas can't turn around / save speedway, then nothing can. It would be easier to work with standardised 250cc bikes as nothing more powerful is required. But of course the "powers that be currently, just won't even consider such changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayleigh Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Just look at the crowd at Rye yesterday, Wednesday is madness that could close the club, still at least Woffy, Hancock, Pedersen etc are all back gracing British speedway after moaning for years about needing a fixed race night in England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 I paid £25 to watch Arsenal v Burnley on Sunday and £18 to watch Rye yesterday. Football has decent facilities and runs like clockwork. Despite some good racing yesterday, sitting in a building site getting covered in dust for 2 and a half hours does not appeal to everyone. Unless speedway promoters improve the overall product, the punters will never come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Rayleigh said: at least Woffy, Hancock, Pedersen etc are all back gracing British speedway after moaning for years about needing a fixed race night in England. Maybe they might have been had the BSPA not introduced rules this season to further prevent them from returning! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 One thing the fixed race nights has also helped so far is getting a better representational League table. Granted it's not perfect but teams have ridden 4/5 matches each, with everyone having at least 1 home match so far. Speedway League tables have always been pointless in the past until a few matches to go as they have always been so lop sided with meetings ridden - With the fixed race nights it prevents that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 On 5/7/2018 at 12:25 PM, ytsejam said: I think people would be happy to spend £17 - £18 per meeting IF they got value for their hard earned cash. I'm sorry but £18 for FIFTEEN minutes of racing is not going to be called value for money 98% of the time. Hell, ratio that up to a Premiership football match and it even makes those ridiculously overpriced tickets seem value in comparison (£50 for 90 mins of action). There is never 90 minutes of action in a football match. The average ball-in-play time is around 47-50 minutes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 On 07/05/2018 at 12:25 PM, ytsejam said: I think people would be happy to spend £17 - £18 per meeting IF they got value for their hard earned cash. I'm sorry but £18 for FIFTEEN minutes of racing is not going to be called value for money 98% of the time. Hell, ratio that up to a Premiership football match and it even makes those ridiculously overpriced tickets seem value in comparison (£50 for 90 mins of action). As has already been pointed out, the ball isn't in play for 90 mins. It's more around 50 mins. As for 'ridiculously' over priced.. I fail to see how something is 'ridiculously' overpriced if it is packing in the crowds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 For speedway to prosper it needs to get coverage in the national press. Most people have either forgotten about it, or don't know that it exists. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Football has less than half the people going today than it used to have in the 1950's Most entertainments and sports are far less today than back then. Tennis being the main exception. Maybe Formula One Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, mickthemuppet said: Football has less than half the people going today than it used to have in the 1950's Most entertainments and sports are far less today than back then. Tennis being the main exception. Maybe Formula One Absolute nonsense. The reason for smaller crowds in football today is pure and simply down to health and safety. The requirement is to have all seater stadiums. That's the reason, nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 17 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Absolute nonsense. The reason for smaller crowds in football today is pure and simply down to health and safety. The requirement is to have all seater stadiums. That's the reason, nothing else. Not that simple, only the top few teams sell out each week, it's more to do with how much football is on tv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 17 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Absolute nonsense. The reason for smaller crowds in football today is pure and simply down to health and safety. The requirement is to have all seater stadiums. That's the reason, nothing else. The reason for lower crowds at Swindon is that they are crap nothing else! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 18 hours ago, cityrebel said: For speedway to prosper it needs to get coverage in the national press. Most people have either forgotten about it, or don't know that it exists. With Woffy back in the GB fold and an article in the Daily Star today, maybe more national coverage may follow?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 18 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Absolute nonsense. The reason for smaller crowds in football today is pure and simply down to health and safety. The requirement is to have all seater stadiums. That's the reason, nothing else. I think you might be getting confused with ground capacity with crowd attendances at matches For example -My closest league club Colchester United In 1948 in the Southern League Average attendance 9,300 This season average gate this season around 3.200. This is in a ground with an overall capacity of over 10,000 Nothing at all to do with health and safety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 Are tracks still going to run on tv Mondays, in other words in opposition to the televised meetings? Doesn't make much sense if they do! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Midland Red said: Are tracks still going to run on tv Mondays, in other words in opposition to the televised meetings? Doesn't make much sense if they do! Pointed this out as a conflict when fixed nights were proposed, if the tv meeting is good and the opposition at your local track or weather is iffy, how many will stay at home and watch tv meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytsejam Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Call me wolfie said: Not that simple, only the top few teams sell out each week, it's more to do with how much football is on tv Very true...and also the costs too for some people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 37 minutes ago, ytsejam said: Very true...and also the costs too for some people. We also have to remember that the attendances given out by all the league clubs are not correct as they are all lower than what are printed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 hour ago, A ORLOV said: if the tv meeting is good and the opposition at your local track or weather is iffy, how many will stay at home and watch tv meeting. Me for one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 19 hours ago, Midland Red said: Are tracks still going to run on tv Mondays, in other words in opposition to the televised meetings? Doesn't make much sense if they do! Too true, I feel these fixed race night (FRN) idea is about 10 yrs too late. This should have been introduced to help and assist the schedule of those top riders when they rode over here, not wait till they had all gone before implementing the idea. But as like most things the BSPA do, the FRN has now been done solely to safeguard the promoters, giving them the opportunity to sign the riders for both leagues.. The main reason clubs like Ipswich and Sheffield refused to join the Premiership was that their teams are made up of riders doing both leagues... The only people to benefit from FRN are the riders..... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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