mikebv Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 34 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: So Somerset now allowed to ride on a night other than FRN..... Erm..... rye house spring to mind Only Friday, Saturday and Sunday left now for a 'full house'! Wonder if they fancy treading on Poland's toes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter65 Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 I thought that when they said they were going to fixed nights it was so some big names could ride here...then they alter the 8 point rule which further limited big names riding here ..if some of the bigger names were here then I'd venture out to see them I think....but the promoters obviously don't want them and can't afford them so to me it's a weak league with few clubs and no interest to me....plus I still don't know when teams are riding..it's all a mess and heading for a bigger mess all the time... I'll stick to T20 cricket now...most matches a pound for my 13 year old some a fiver for me or £12 sometimes..big names and great entertainment..each year gets better than the previous one...I wish I could say that about speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 13 hours ago, Trotter65 said: I thought that when they said they were going to fixed nights it was so some big names could ride here...then they alter the 8 point rule which further limited big names riding here ..if some of the bigger names were here then I'd venture out to see them I think....but the promoters obviously don't want them and can't afford them so to me it's a weak league with few clubs and no interest to me....plus I still don't know when teams are riding..it's all a mess and heading for a bigger mess all the time... I'll stick to T20 cricket now...most matches a pound for my 13 year old some a fiver for me or £12 sometimes..big names and great entertainment..each year gets better than the previous one...I wish I could say that about speedway I would be very surprised if we see GP riders in Britain for a long time and I am happy with that, if it means security for the clubs in the long run, as it is obvious it would be financial suicide to try and match the wages riders can attract in Sweden and Poland, along with their other demands. I could see a few fans being attracted back, but not near enough to meet the additional costs. There has been a lot said about the 8 point rule and I don't know if this rule is the cause of this, but the league table, minus one team, is a lot closer than usual this season, which should, in turn, have created a more exciting finish to the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepturningleft Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Monday night is absolutely not speedway night, except in Wolverhampton. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Would Wolves prefer a Friday - like they used to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffster Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 On 7/12/2018 at 5:26 PM, stevebrum said: Tai makes an interesting comment about Monday night speedway in the UK in this weeks SS. ”I’ve said it over and over and over again. Monday night is speedway night, everyone knows it’s on a Monday night. I know there’s different issues with different clubs but if you can’t race on a Monday, then don’t race in the Premiership. Any clubs that want to race on a Monday, come to the Premiership. Make it professional. Sweden works, Poland works.” The one major flaw in this argument, is that, in both Sweden and Poland, a speedway track is just that, a speedway track, owned by the club, or leased from their local council, with the club being masters of their own destiny as far as usage of their stadium and track... In the UK, speedway teams, are, with the odd exception such as Kings Lynn, and the now defunct Rye House, tenants at a greyhound stadium, so have to fit around greyhound racing and other commitments at the stadium, coming second or third in the pecking order for race nights... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Just a self serving comment from Tai. Only one PL team chose to race on a Monday so quite how that makes Monday speedway night shows what a ridiculous comment it was. Monday may be speedway on TV night but that is a different issue. Every team other than Wolverhampton simply fitted in by racing on a Monday when on TV. We should never have agreed or accepted the FIM proposal that included Monday, by far the worst night for getting people out to entertainment events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, jeffster said: The one major flaw in this argument, is that, in both Sweden and Poland, a speedway track is just that, a speedway track, owned by the club, or leased from their local council, with the club being masters of their own destiny as far as usage of their stadium and track... In the UK, speedway teams, are, with the odd exception such as Kings Lynn, and the now defunct Rye House, tenants at a greyhound stadium, so have to fit around greyhound racing and other commitments at the stadium, coming second or third in the pecking order for race nights... Agreed, it is a major flaw 1 hour ago, Aces51 said: Just a self serving comment from Tai. Only one PL team chose to race on a Monday so quite how that makes Monday speedway night shows what a ridiculous comment it was. Monday may be speedway on TV night but that is a different issue. Every team other than Wolverhampton simply fitted in by racing on a Monday when on TV. We should never have agreed or accepted the FIM proposal that included Monday, by far the worst night for getting people out to entertainment events. However to SKY and BT Monday night IS speedway night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, stevebrum said: Agreed, it is a major flaw However to SKY and BT Monday night IS speedway night. Sky no longer show any speedway and as BT only normally televise one meeting. Monday may be their night for showing it but one meeting hardly makes it a TV night. Far more important for the survival of the sport is that clubs are able to run on whichever night is the best for them. The facts make clear that isn't Monday otherwise clubs would have been queuing up run on that night before FNR and nearly every club avoided it like the plague. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 9 hours ago, Aces51 said: Sky no longer show any speedway and as BT only normally televise one meeting. Monday may be their night for showing it but one meeting hardly makes it a TV night. Far more important for the survival of the sport is that clubs are able to run on whichever night is the best for them. The facts make clear that isn't Monday otherwise clubs would have been queuing up run on that night before FNR and nearly every club avoided it like the plague. My only point to the TV companies and casual viewer that Monday was and is Speedway nite, league wise. There is a bigger picture obviously. TV SHOULD have made it a vital night for the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) Fix Nights is to suit the riders ,tv and the promoters NOT the fans and which premier club is Tai riding for on Monday night if it's so great ,like most riders it's about the money ( which I have no problem with ) which decides where top riders decide to ply their trade ! Edited August 30, 2018 by FAST GATER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 On 7/5/2018 at 6:31 AM, mikebv said: Maybe British Speedway should run itself on those 'very, very basic' lines...? The key problem is that British Speedway seems not to be run on "any lines" at all, basic or otherwise. They make knee-jerk reactions to any developing situations which are ill-conceived and poorly thought through. Or not thought through at all. Changing the league set up once again, as rumoured, is not going to attract a new generation of fans all by itself is it? Why would it, as nothing in the entertainment served up on track will change. And nobody in the outside world will know about it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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