Buxton v Brummies Sun 29th Ap NT

[mrss]

Fans can usually get a refund by post if a meeting is postponed. Does Buxton do this?

[cityrebel]

Sometimes clubs have a moral duty to do the right thing, regardless of any rules implemented by the BSPA.

[guitar_art]

Wasn't there so difficult to comment.

 

However the Buxton side of the story seems to contain no facts and only accusations.

[phillipsr]

1 hour ago, Jayne said:

The plan is set by the BSPA not individual clubs and is standard throughout the sport.

Surely that cant be legal to take someones money not give anything in return and then refuse to give that money back 

[brianbuck]

I can understand Jayne's frustration at having to call off a meeting on what was a reasonably fine afternoon, but I think the suggestion that it was because the Birmingham team refused to ride is an exaggeration! The Birmingham riders I spoke to were not happy with the condition of the track and did not think that there was sufficient time to put it right, but they would have been prepared to give it a go if the referee had decided to go ahead with the meeting. The referee's comment that he "did not like what he had seen" after Tom Woolley had ridden a few laps and in my opinion, had looked increasingly uncomfortable on both bends, was made in my presence, and the bottom line is that it was he who called the meeting off - not Birmingham nor Buxton.

This was my first visit to Buxton. I enjoyed the trip and the scenery and although I was naturally disappointed not to see some racing, the events of the day have not put me off the thought of future visits there. I feel that Buxton were the unlucky victims of unfortunate circumstances. My opinion is that the postponement was the correct decision, but I look forward to my next Buxton visit and wish the club well for the future. I'm sorry that the events of the day have created so much ill-feeling and hope that on reflection, both sides will calm down a little when the dust settles.

[Piotr Pyszny]

17 minutes ago, brianbuck said:

I can understand Jayne's frustration at having to call off a meeting on what was a reasonably fine afternoon, but I think the suggestion that it was because the Birmingham team refused to ride is an exaggeration! The Birmingham riders I spoke to were not happy with the condition of the track and did not think that there was sufficient time to put it right, but they would have been prepared to give it a go if the referee had decided to go ahead with the meeting. The referee's comment that he "did not like what he had seen" after Tom Woolley had ridden a few laps and in my opinion, had looked increasingly uncomfortable on both bends, was made in my presence, and the bottom line is that it was he who called the meeting off - not Birmingham nor Buxton.

This was my first visit to Buxton. I enjoyed the trip and the scenery and although I was naturally disappointed not to see some racing, the events of the day have not put me off the thought of future visits there. I feel that Buxton were the unlucky victims of unfortunate circumstances. My opinion is that the postponement was the correct decision, but I look forward to my next Buxton visit and wish the club well for the future. I'm sorry that the events of the day have created so much ill-feeling and hope that on reflection, both sides will calm down a little when the dust settles.

You enjoyed the trip and the scenery? Good God. If you're an example of the tiny remnant of speedway's extant fan base, no wonder the sport's clubs get away with treating their few remaining customers so badly. You're either pathologically supine or a sandwich short of a picnic. I wouldn't care to hazard which.

[Argos]

Today I was embarrassed to be a Birmingham supporter, The Track was not Perfect, but how many Tracks are ?, It was much better than Perry Barr was against Coventry earlier this Season, yet again rider power gets a Meeting called off, Speaking to a current Referee who was Present informed me what a disgrace that the meeting was called off, No rain, Perfect vision, this is another nail in the coffin of British Speedway, Mr Rogers and some of your riders hold your heads in shame, I say some as the 3 I spoke to were more than happy to ride.   

[uk_martin]

6 hours ago, Jayne said:

It was your riders that convinced the referee to change his mind.  Nothing wrong that a few heats wouldn't have fixed. 

It took only half a heat at the Swindon v Leicester meeting, which did go ahead in dodgy conditions, for two very experienced and skillful riders to be injured in a fall, one of of which was a very bad injury. Coming out with that last statement shows a callous disregard for the health and wellbeing of young riders far less experienced and far less skillful than those who already came a cropper in similar circumstances.

 

[uk_martin]

4 hours ago, screm said:

According to this it was only Tom Wooley that was sent out, either way the supporters of both teams have ended up short changed and out of pocket, something that happens far to often in speedway these days.

http://www.birminghambrummies.co/news.php?extend.2610

 

4 hours ago, screm said:

And heres the other side of the sad story.

http://worldspeedway.com/buxton-speedway-hitmenunhappy-at-postponment/

 

Lots of pointy finger posturing that does the sport no good whatsoever...assuming that there's still anyone around to take any notice.

 

[uk_martin]

3 hours ago, Jayne said:

The plan is set by the BSPA not individual clubs and is standard throughout the sport.

What a cop-out

Ever heard the term "ex-gratia"? Ever heard of treating exceptional circumstances on their individual merits?

Buxton seem to be sour about this afternoon because there was probably a huge financial loss made. No wonder another few quid in the post is such an unpalletable prospect.

[fredbogge]

 Has anyone stated what was wrong with the track  ( details please )

[Guest GiveusaB]

10 hours ago, brianbuck said:

I can understand Jayne's frustration at having to call off a meeting on what was a reasonably fine afternoon, but I think the suggestion that it was because the Birmingham team refused to ride is an exaggeration! The Birmingham riders I spoke to were not happy with the condition of the track and did not think that there was sufficient time to put it right, but they would have been prepared to give it a go if the referee had decided to go ahead with the meeting. The referee's comment that he "did not like what he had seen" after Tom Woolley had ridden a few laps and in my opinion, had looked increasingly uncomfortable on both bends, was made in my presence, and the bottom line is that it was he who called the meeting off - not Birmingham nor Buxton.

This was my first visit to Buxton. I enjoyed the trip and the scenery and although I was naturally disappointed not to see some racing, the events of the day have not put me off the thought of future visits there. I feel that Buxton were the unlucky victims of unfortunate circumstances. My opinion is that the postponement was the correct decision, but I look forward to my next Buxton visit and wish the club well for the future. I'm sorry that the events of the day have created so much ill-feeling and hope that on reflection, both sides will calm down a little when the dust settles.

Graceful as ever Brian.....Let's see if Buxton's promotion are as equal and refund EVERY paying fan for yesterdays debacle ???

I'll  NEVER visit there unless they do!

The only people to be blamed for yesterday are Buxton's promoters  and their lack of track preparation!!!

What a cop out by trying to blame any rider for pointing out an unfit surface? I wonder how many laps Jayne Moss has ever done on a speedway bike?

[Brummies_Ste]

Quote

 

BUXTON Speedway wish to clarify re-admission arrangements following Sunday’s postponed fixture against Birmingham. Standard BSPA re-admission policy which covers all tracks in the UK will apply for supporters who had been admitted to the Hi-Edge Raceway before the match was called off. These arrangements are carried in the matchday programme and full details are also available upon request at the stadium entrance. The next home fixture for the Hitmen is next Sunday (May 6) against Coventry, and re-admission tickets from the Birmingham match will be applicable from this date onwards.

[cityrebel]

The promoters just don't get It, do they.

[Jayne]

1 hour ago, GiveusaB said:

Graceful as ever Brian.....Let's see if Buxton's promotion are as equal and refund EVERY paying fan for yesterdays debacle ???

I'll  NEVER visit there unless they do!

The only people to be blamed for yesterday are Buxton's promoters  and their lack of track preparation!!!

What a cop out by trying to blame any rider for pointing out an unfit surface? I wonder how many laps Jayne Moss has ever done on a speedway bike?

Everyone gets their admission fee refunded either by using their ticket again or requesting a refund. 

[Guest GiveusaB]

27 minutes ago, Jayne said:

Everyone gets their admission fee refunded either by using their ticket again or requesting a refund. 

Fair play !

[East End Fan]

Cityrebel seems to want promoters to refund each paying customer if there is a rain off.  Has he not considered the impossibility of

doing that ?  No fan with a brain ever expects to get a cash refund if a meeting is cancelled.  While the BSPA rule is not perfect, in the

circumstances it's probably the best that can be achieved....Someone told me that cricket fans get no kind of re-fund whatever the circumstances.

[*JJ]

2 hours ago, fredbogge said:

 Has anyone stated what was wrong with the track  ( details please )

It didn't seem much worse than usual from the outside, but when Tom Woolley tried to ride it, he was hitting a hole on the third bend and continually lifting and losing it.

[Piotr Pyszny]

2 hours ago, adonis said:

Says the man who was in the area on holiday !!

 

Someone trails all the way from Birmingham to Buxton, for the express purpose of watching a speedway meeting. That meeting is called off in farcical circumstances. Not the slightest demur. Sole reaction: well, I enjoyed the trip and the scenery. Sorry, still baffled.

To Jayne (presumably Moss): how do we go about getting a full refund? Can you give me an address to which we can post our readmission and trackside parking tickets?

Edited April 30, 2018 by Piotr Pyszny

[uk_martin]

1 hour ago, Piotr Pyszny said:

Someone trails all the way from Birmingham to Buxton, for the express purpose of watching a speedway meeting. That meeting is called off in farcical circumstances. Not the slightest demur. Sole reaction: well, I enjoyed the trip and the scenery. Sorry, still baffled

It's the British way..."Stiff upper lip", "always look on the bright side of life", "can't complain and all that", "Keep Calm and (insert punchline)"