ProudtobeaBrummie Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 30 minutes ago, Jayne said: I have only received two requests for refunds both of which were sent last week, one was from Brian Buck and the other from a lady in Coventry. Surprise surprise haha so not ours either then ....we've posted the evidence now for you to destroy ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummies_Ste Posted May 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Jayne said: I have only received two requests for refunds both of which were sent last week, one was from Brian Buck and the other from a lady in Coventry. So my letter got lost in the post how convenient for you Mrs Moss. Well its your loss well never ever visit your stadium again !! & will inform the the B.S.P.A. & S C B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said: Surprise surprise haha so not ours either then ....we've posted the evidence now for you to destroy ... So you are calling me a liar then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Brummies_Ste said: So my letter got lost in the post how convenient for you Mrs Moss. Well its your loss well never ever visit your stadium again !! & will inform the the B.S.P.A. & S C B That is a libellous comment and I note that you are not even prepared to put your name to your comments. As for informing the BSPA then that's fine as I have done nothing wrong. We have had plenty of people use their tickets at other meetings as they are quite rightly entitled to do. You could have scanned them and emailed them or sent them registered post, again it was your choice not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 4 hours ago, Jayne said: That is a libellous comment and I note that you are not even prepared to put your name to your comments.... It's not libellous until a bench of three judges in a High Court decide that it is. Bear in mind that a valid defence to an accusation of libel is "fair comment". It doesn't matter what identity someone uses in a public forum. Complete red herring. As long as his correspondence to you which you "lost" (a "dog ate my homework" excuse if ever I've heard one) had his proper name, that's all that matters. I'm sure that Brummies_Ste will copy and paste his original letter to you. And I'm sure that if you've got the finances to afford defamation lawyers, you can afford to pay the refund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) Why on earth would you post original tickets in this day and age Edited May 22, 2018 by Bagpuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, uk_martin said: It's not libellous until a bench of three judges in a High Court decide that it is. Bear in mind that a valid defence to an accusation of libel is "fair comment". It doesn't matter what identity someone uses in a public forum. Complete red herring. As long as his correspondence to you which you "lost" (a "dog ate my homework" excuse if ever I've heard one) had his proper name, that's all that matters. I'm sure that Brummies_Ste will copy and paste his original letter to you. And I'm sure that if you've got the finances to afford defamation lawyers, you can afford to pay the refund. I have not lost any correspondence and incidentally you cannot lose something you never had. As for the dog ate my homework cant say that ever happened to me. Its amazing how the 'keyboard warriors' make a comment and it becomes fact. Why would I single him out I don't even know who he is. As I have said the requests I have had I have processed and any others I receive will be dealt with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Why on earth would you post original tickets in this day and age This is British Speedway. It still thinks it's the 1950's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Jayne said: I have not lost any correspondence and incidentally you cannot lose something you never had. So the Royal Mail is at fault? Are you accusing Royal Mail of losing letters from both ProudtobeaBrummie AND Brummies_Ste, both of which, quite coincidentally, were requesting refunds? Careful what you say, Royal Mail might consider unfounded allegations to be libellous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterPlinge Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, uk_martin said: So the Royal Mail is at fault? Are you accusing Royal Mail of losing letters from both ProudtobeaBrummie AND Brummies_Ste, both of which, quite coincidentally, were requesting refunds? Careful what you say, Royal Mail might consider unfounded allegations to be libellous. Where did Jayne say the Royal Mail was at fault? As a neutral reading this, my opinion of the most likely scenario is that the alleged tickets never reached the Royal Mail. (Maybe the tickets never even existed). Of course the easy solution is for the senders to scan the proof of posting certificate and show us all. (Unless you're asking us to believe that someone sending something he considers valuable, in the post, didn't even get a free posting certificate? Most people would send it "signed for" but it would be stupid not to take advantage of the free service of a posting certificate as a minimum) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 2 hours ago, WalterPlinge said: Where did Jayne say the Royal Mail was at fault? As a neutral reading this, my opinion of the most likely scenario is that the alleged tickets never reached the Royal Mail. (Maybe the tickets never even existed). Of course the easy solution is for the senders to scan the proof of posting certificate and show us all. (Unless you're asking us to believe that someone sending something he considers valuable, in the post, didn't even get a free posting certificate? Most people would send it "signed for" but it would be stupid not to take advantage of the free service of a posting certificate as a minimum) 2 people say they sent something, Jayne claims never to have received it. So who other than Royal Mail lies in between? Ok, maybe the fairy godmother was asked to deliver those letters. Let's get a reality check on this please? It wasn't the Crown Jewels that were sent. Nothing there ATHAT valuable that needed the extra expense of registered or recorded post. Can't believe the huffing and puffing going on over a couple of £13 tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, uk_martin said: 2 people say they sent something, Jayne claims never to have received it. So who other than Royal Mail lies in between? Ok, maybe the fairy godmother was asked to deliver those letters. Let's get a reality check on this please? It wasn't the Crown Jewels that were sent. Nothing there ATHAT valuable that needed the extra expense of registered or recorded post. Can't believe the huffing and puffing going on over a couple of £13 tickets. All I can is FFS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterPlinge Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 6 hours ago, uk_martin said: Let's get a reality check on this please? It wasn't the Crown Jewels that were sent. Nothing there ATHAT valuable that needed the extra expense of registered or recorded post. Can't believe the huffing and puffing going on over a couple of £13 tickets. If the alleged sender considered the tickets to be of no value, they wouldn't be crying on a web forum. If they did consider the tickets to be of value, surely they would just get a free certificate of posting. (p.s. there's no such thing as registered post or recorded delivery anymore. There is "Royal Mail Signed For" which is tracked and costs £1.10, but for something of low value all that would be needed is a certificate of posting, which is completely free.of charge) Why would anyone not use a free service if they were worried enough to cry on a web forum? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 On 5/23/2018 at 7:31 PM, WalterPlinge said: If the alleged sender considered the tickets to be of no value, they wouldn't be crying on a web forum. If they did consider the tickets to be of value, surely they would just get a free certificate of posting. (p.s. there's no such thing as registered post or recorded delivery anymore. There is "Royal Mail Signed For" which is tracked and costs £1.10, but for something of low value all that would be needed is a certificate of posting, which is completely free.of charge) Why would anyone not use a free service if they were worried enough to cry on a web forum? All of which completely misses the point that what was originally in question was the honesty and integrity of a British Speedway Promoter and the credibility of the excuses surrounding why a promised refund hasn't been forthcoming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 35 minutes ago, uk_martin said: All of which completely misses the point that what was originally in question was the honesty and integrity of a British Speedway Promoter and the credibility of the excuses surrounding why a promised refund hasn't been forthcoming. So you are calling me a liar. I don't know anything about you and you certainly don't know anything about me. As I have said the requests that I have received I have processed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argos Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 Buxton Speedway have been in the 3 tear of British Speedway longer than any other club in this Country, They have produced many riders that now ride in the Top 2 Leagues Plus a GP rider, you don’t have that kind of History by conning the Public, For goodness sake get of there Backs, By the way I was at the meeting in Question there was no way that meeting should have been Cancelled, Keep up the excellent work Buxton, 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 On 5/22/2018 at 9:14 AM, Brummies_Ste said: Well Mrs Moss it is now 3 weeks since I posted my admission ticket back to the address on your site requesting a refund. Are you going to honour your statement in your post above ? Just to update you I was given a letter yesterday from the Stockcar promotion from a Birmingham fan who I am presuming is you. This letter was sent to the track which has no postal access or anyone on site to accept mail and is reliant upon the postman redirecting it to either ourselves or the Stockcars. If it is yourself then I will be processing the cheque today and posting it and perhaps you can take some responsibility for the delay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 On 5/24/2018 at 11:07 PM, Argos said: Buxton Speedway have been in the 3 tear of British Speedway longer than any other club in this Country, They have produced many riders that now ride in the Top 2 Leagues Plus a GP rider, you don’t have that kind of History by conning the Public, For goodness sake get of there Backs, By the way I was at the meeting in Question there was no way that meeting should have been Cancelled, Keep up the excellent work Buxton, "tear" is an interesting word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Jayne said: ...This letter was sent to the track which has no postal access or anyone on site to accept mail and is reliant upon the postman redirecting it to either ourselves or the Stockcars... The address on your website is: Hi-Edge Raceway, Dale Head Lane, Axe Edge, Nr. Buxton, Derbyshire Where else should it have been sent to? How would a member of the public know that there is no mail box at this address? If there is a more correct postal address that will get snail mail to you quicker, maybe it should be made known to the public and also put on the web site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbogge Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 3 hours ago, uk_martin said: The address on your website is: Hi-Edge Raceway, Dale Head Lane, Axe Edge, Nr. Buxton, Derbyshire Where else should it have been sent to? How would a member of the public know that there is no mail box at this address? If there is a more correct postal address that will get snail mail to you quicker, maybe it should be made known to the public and also put on the web site? Did you buy a programme if so did you read it because on page 3 headed welcome to home of buxton hitmen it states the following ALL CORRESPONDENCE TO Buxton Speedway Office C/O 22 Dale Road Buxton Derbyshire SK17 6NL Telephone 01298 72271 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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