OldRacer Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Najjer said: Why isn't he riding then Shovlar, if he's the messiah? He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Gavan said: Im sure Brady will be ok eventually but on paper he was the weakest number one in the league and at the moment he isnt doing much to change that. Shouldnt be hard for Holder to push for number one as nobody from Kurtz, Josh and Linus seem capable of it From a few meetings! You need at least 8-10 before you can get a sense of any kind of form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 hour ago, mrss said: Question foe Steve Shovlar. Do you practice at being a prat or does it come naturally? Ooh err missus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 42 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: I'd rather Killer than Holder if it was my team, if it was at all possible. Killers average from his 3 meetings is 8.26 and rising. A 9 plus ave looks in easy reach for him. 4/4/18 ... 7 from 4 16/4.... 10 from 5 18/4....16 from 6 Not sure if Holder could match him. But who knows. Hopefully he won’t have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: From a few meetings! You need at least 8-10 before you can get a sense of any kind of form. No you dont. 3-4 meetings is fine to assess a riders form. If they are new to this country like Woryna then yes they need longer to be assessed. Kurtz is not in form simple as that. 15, 7 and 3 is not the scores of a rider who is in form. I dont expect it to last as Kurtz is a better rider than that but right now he isnt riding well. I think he may put to much pressure on himself at times. Seems to make mistakes or blow races when the pressure is on. Aussie champs this season prime example, apart from an engine failure he only lost one qualifying race yet blew every final , either falling or knocked Holder off in one as well i think. If he cuts out the silly errors and doesnt put to much on himself then he could go far. With regards him and Morris, Brady reminds me of a young Crump and Morris a young Adams....Morris more in control but Kurtz more likely to go on to better things and be the better rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Lambert looking VERY poor in Gdansk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: I'd rather Killer than Holder if it was my team, if it was at all possible. Killers average from his 3 meetings is 8.26 and rising. A 9 plus ave looks in easy reach for him. 4/4/18 ... 7 from 4 16/4.... 10 from 5 18/4....16 from 6 Not sure if Holder could match him. But who knows. It was 14 from 6 against Swindon 2,3,2,2,3,2 = 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 2 hours ago, sommelier said: Lambert looking VERY poor in Gdansk And Brady only dropped one point and looked brilliant away in the extraliga. Means nothing though for Wednesday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Gavan said: No you dont. 3-4 meetings is fine to assess a riders form. If they are new to this country like Woryna then yes they need longer to be assessed. Kurtz is not in form simple as that. 15, 7 and 3 is not the scores of a rider who is in form. I dont expect it to last as Kurtz is a better rider than that but right now he isnt riding well. I think he may put to much pressure on himself at times. Seems to make mistakes or blow races when the pressure is on. Aussie champs this season prime example, apart from an engine failure he only lost one qualifying race yet blew every final , either falling or knocked Holder off in one as well i think. If he cuts out the silly errors and doesnt put to much on himself then he could go far. With regards him and Morris, Brady reminds me of a young Crump and Morris a young Adams....Morris more in control but Kurtz more likely to go on to better things and be the better rider Kurtz is pretty young, bit much to have so much pressure on all the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Gavan said: No you dont. 3-4 meetings is fine to assess a riders form. If they are new to this country like Woryna then yes they need longer to be assessed. Kurtz is not in form simple as that. 15, 7 and 3 is not the scores of a rider who is in form. Oh dear. Oh dear. Oh dear. Talk about putting your foot in it as usual. Brady scored paid 14 from 5 tonight for Leszno in the extraleague, away from home. With some superb passes. You really don’t have a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Gavan said: No you dont. 3-4 meetings is fine to assess a riders form. If they are new to this country like Woryna then yes they need longer to be assessed. Kurtz is not in form simple as that. 15, 7 and 3 is not the scores of a rider who is in form. I dont expect it to last as Kurtz is a better rider than that but right now he isnt riding well. I think he may put to much pressure on himself at times. Seems to make mistakes or blow races when the pressure is on. Aussie champs this season prime example, apart from an engine failure he only lost one qualifying race yet blew every final , either falling or knocked Holder off in one as well i think. If he cuts out the silly errors and doesnt put to much on himself then he could go far. With regards him and Morris, Brady reminds me of a young Crump and Morris a young Adams....Morris more in control but Kurtz more likely to go on to better things and be the better rider that was a quiet sensible post from you Gavan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, Mr X said: Is this the right thread to smash Ipswich for losing at home again......BEH won't see Gavan for a few days then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: Oh dear. Oh dear. Oh dear. Talk about putting your foot in it as usual. Brady scored paid 14 from 5 tonight for Leszno in the extraleague, away from home. With some superb passes. You really don’t have a clue. Who cares what he scored for Leszno. Doesn't make a difference to Poole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 25 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: won't see Gavan for a few days then I think you have been missing since Wednesday as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 hour ago, ray c said: I think you have been missing since Wednesday as well we bounce back, always do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 This will be a big test for our new team. Poole always goes well here and I cant see this being any different. Most of their riders relish the opportunity on this track, so we need to be all guns blazing . I feel we are capable of winning this , but it will be tight.. I think we will have to rely on wining heats 13 and 15 to sneak all the points.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 14 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: And Brady only dropped one point and looked brilliant away in the extraliga. Means nothing though for Wednesday. Got to agree with you there.Different leagues normally different outcomes.Individual riders form is sometimes different in other leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 14 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Oh dear. Oh dear. Oh dear. Talk about putting your foot in it as usual. Brady scored paid 14 from 5 tonight for Leszno in the extraleague, away from home. With some superb passes. You really don’t have a clue. Are you that thick that you compare form abroad to form over here. So your happy Brady gets 14 in Poland and then bangs in 3 or 4 on Monday....prat. Wasnt you telling everyone how amazing Woryna is in Poland beating top riders but over here he cant beat Bellego or Eliis or Starke. I hope your boys keep banging in big scores abroad and riding poor for Poole.....maybe its a management issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 50 minutes ago, Gavan said: I hope your boys keep banging in big scores abroad and riding poor for Poole. Sums up the person you are very nicely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Gavan said: Are you that thick that you compare form abroad to form over here. So your happy Brady gets 14 in Poland and then bangs in 3 or 4 on Monday....prat. Wasnt you telling everyone how amazing Woryna is in Poland beating top riders but over here he cant beat Bellego or Eliis or Starke. I hope your boys keep banging in big scores abroad and riding poor for Poole.....maybe its a management issue I dont think Steve is happy for Brady to score 3 points at home. And neither would i think Brady was.. There's nothing wrong with our management. Brady lodges at Neils during the season. And i really dont think Neil is the sort of person who would bombared Bradys with do's and dont's every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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