Phil The Ace Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 Personally I think it's wrong/unfair that swindon are allowed to race Thursdays. If anything happens to any of the riders (hope it doesnt) and they need to have a guest they will have a bigger pool of riders to choose from unlike the rest who are limited because of set nights. Tnoughts 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 Everyone should have been riding on Thursdays. That was the day that was set to be reserved for British racing but everyone else went with Wednesday because they are Ipswich and Poole's poodles. Incidentally, their opposition on a Thursday will also have more choice of guests if needed, so where's the advantage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: Personally I think it's wrong/unfair that swindon are allowed to race Thursdays. If anything happens to any of the riders (hope it doesnt) and they need to have a guest they will have a bigger pool of riders to choose from unlike the rest who are limited because of set nights. Tnoughts Its because they cant afford a stadium and have to do what the owners say. Thursday's or nothing. Swindon obviously chose Thursday's lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 Here we go, another dig at Swindon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted April 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, noggin said: Here we go, another dig at Swindon. It's not a dig at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 20 minutes ago, Matt Ford Fan said: Its because they cant afford a stadium and have to do what the owners say. Thursday's or nothing. Swindon obviously chose Thursday's lol. Do the Borough of Poole own Wimborne Rd.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 For years, various people, fans, promoters etc. said that fixed race nights wouldn't work in Britain because clubs didn't own their stadiums and that availability is limited. This was despite the obvious advantages that fixed race nights offered in terms of reducing clashes and potentially encouraging back the top riders. Last year we saw the BSPA actually grasp the nettle and actually make a positive decision. Monday and Wednesday was always the most obviously choice as it mean limiting disruption to both Premiership and Championship clubs, however given that not all clubs own their stadiums and that availability is limited is was unlikely all clubs would be able to achieve this from day one. I think the solution, to allow Swindon to race half their home meetings on a Thursday, while all other clubs move to the fixed nights is the ideal compromise for the first season of fixed nights. Hopefully over time Swindon will be able to reach an agreement to allow us to fall in line with the rest of the league. In terms of advantage, as Grachan says, this is available to both teams, so Swindon will have no more of a pool than their opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, Sidney the robin said: Do the Borough of Poole own Wimborne Rd.? Topic has nothing to do with Poole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Matt Ford Fan said: Topic has nothing to do with Poole. Just saying the Swindon promotion have as much control as Ford has at Poole that's all no need to be so so prickly.!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Just saying the Swindon promotion have as much control as Ford has at Poole that's all no need to be so so prickly.!!! He wouldn’t know the answer to that question anyway Sidney, he lives in Peterborough. Ask him one about the Panthers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 31 minutes ago, MattK said: In terms of advantage, as Grachan says, this is available to both teams, so Swindon will have no more of a pool than their opponent. Well that's just wrong isn't it... If Nick Morris gets a long term injury for example Swindon can choose any guest (willing to do it) from all teams in the league except 2 every week. If for example NKI gets a long term injury KL can only choose a guest from Swindon or the other team who aren't riding that Monday/Wednesday... how is that fair? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, iainb said: Well that's just wrong isn't it... If Nick Morris gets a long term injury for example Swindon can choose any guest (willing to do it) from all teams in the league except 2 every week. If for example NKI gets a long term injury KL can only choose a guest from Swindon or the other team who aren't riding that Monday/Wednesday... how is that fair? Because it's the same situation for the opposition. There is, as Robert De Niro might say, a flip side to that coin. If Iversen gets injured, then when King's Lynn are at teams riding on a Monday or Wednesday they have a limited choice of guest. When they are at Swindon they can choose any guest from any other team. Just as unfair? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Grachan said: Because it's the same situation for the opposition. There is, as Robert De Niro might say, a flip side to that coin. If Iversen gets injured, then when King's Lynn are at teams riding on a Monday or Wednesday they have a limited choice of guest. When they are at Swindon they can choose any guest from any other team. Just as unfair? That's OK if you're just treating it as a one off match... but this is league Speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Phil The Ace said: Personally I think it's wrong/unfair that swindon are allowed to race Thursdays. If anything happens to any of the riders (hope it doesnt) and they need to have a guest they will have a bigger pool of riders to choose from unlike the rest who are limited because of set nights. Tnoughts The reason that Swindon are alone in Thursday nights is that the original fixed nights for Premiership was going to be Mon & Thur with Sheffield coming up. However, Sheffield would not come up & then there was apparently a long debate as certain Championship sides wanted to preserve their Thursday meetings. A compromise was then made & Thurs became Wed. However it is very difficult for Swindon as both Mon & Wed, there is dog racing at the stadium, afternoons on Mon & evenings on Wed. So a concession was given to Swindon to allow them to continue in the Premiership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, DunRobin said: The reason that Swindon are alone in Thursday nights is that the original fixed nights for Premiership was going to be Mon & Thur with Sheffield coming up. However, Sheffield would not come up & then there was apparently a long debate as certain Championship sides wanted to preserve their Thursday meetings. A compromise was then made & Thurs became Wed. However it is very difficult for Swindon as both Mon & Wed, there is dog racing at the stadium, afternoons on Mon & evenings on Wed. So a concession was given to Swindon to allow them to continue in the Premiership. Exactly, perhaps they'd prefer a seven team league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffster Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Phil The Ace said: Personally I think it's wrong/unfair that swindon are allowed to race Thursdays. If anything happens to any of the riders (hope it doesnt) and they need to have a guest they will have a bigger pool of riders to choose from unlike the rest who are limited because of set nights. Tnoughts Thoughts ? A certain south coast promoter ballsed it up ! Colin Pratt went on record in the Speedway Star to say that it was had been agreed with the ISL (International Speedway League, a body that formulates fixtures between the UK, Poland, Sweden and Denmark) that the UK would move to Monday and Thursday for racing at Elite League level... Hey Presto, at the next BSPA meeting, The Pirate one kicked up a fuss, and it became Monday and Wednesday ! Your thoughts on guests doesnt stack up, either - Dont forget that a speedway meeting needs TWO teams, so, should any of Swindon's opposition need a guest, they also have a bigger pool to pick from on Thursdays ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said: Do the Borough of Poole own Wimborne Rd.? Gaming international alias stadia UK on leasehold from both councils I'm sure you know that anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 22 minutes ago, ray c said: Gaming international alias stadia UK on leasehold from both councils I'm sure you know that anyway I did not know that Ray to be honest one of the problems we have in speedway are clubs not owning the stadiums.I don't if i am right on this and if Poole are the same as Swindon i think Swindon get none of the parking money / drinks food revenue and maybe even the programmes maybe ER or Grachan would know if that is correct.?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: I did not know that Ray to be honest one of the problems we have in speedway are clubs not owning the stadiums.I don't if i am right on this and if Poole are the same as Swindon i think Swindon get none of the parking money / drinks food revenue and maybe even the programmes maybe ER or Grachan would know if that is correct.?? The speedway get the prog money but none of the other income you mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 Swindon can ride whenever they want as reigning champions..thems the rools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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