Tosh1218 Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Tonight is proof that pts were lost through getting a guest nearly 3 pts under Stevie Worrall average , we know steve is going to be out for a while so let's sign a proven no 1 to lead the other 6 contracted riders . Newcastle are built with a strong 6 and 7 so the other 5 have to outscore there top 5 . For me bust a gut to get an 8.5 pts plus to Steve's average as a temporary replacement or results will pass us by try and get Sam Masters or an ex premier rider . In the past a 2 pt defeat at Newcastle in the past was a good result but so deflated tonight and fear choosing the wrong guest will haunt us thoughts please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 I think your reserves were a big part of the problem tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted April 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Gino will get better and danny has had nearly a year out stevie 9.13 average lewy Kerr 6.78 average theres the stats you need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 21 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I think your reserves were a big part of the problem tonight. Gino Manzares rode well and you could argue deserved more than the 6 points he got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bez Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 34 minutes ago, Tosh1218 said: Tonight is proof that pts were lost through getting a guest nearly 3 pts under Stevie Worrall average , we know steve is going to be out for a while so let's sign a proven no 1 to lead the other 6 contracted riders . Newcastle are built with a strong 6 and 7 so the other 5 have to outscore there top 5 . For me bust a gut to get an 8.5 pts plus to Steve's average as a temporary replacement or results will pass us by try and get Sam Masters or an ex premier rider . In the past a 2 pt defeat at Newcastle in the past was a good result but so deflated tonight and fear choosing the wrong guest will haunt us thoughts please If we re-declare, what happens when Steve Worrall is fit again and we are over the 42.5 points limit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, bez said: If we re-declare, what happens when Steve Worrall is fit again and we are over the 42.5 points limit ? If you re-declare and are over the limit when Steve returns, he couldn't return to the team unless other changes were made which brought the team below the limit. However, if a 'temporary replacement' is signed, Steve would be free to return when fit, replacing the 'temporary replacement'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bez Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 23 minutes ago, KevH said: If you re-declare and are over the limit when Steve returns, he couldn't return to the team unless other changes were made which brought the team below the limit. However, if a 'temporary replacement' is signed, Steve would be free to return when fit, replacing the 'temporary replacement'. Thanks makes sense now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaky11 Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 If you look at the meeting tonight Danny was off the pace apart from the one race where him and Lewis Rose crashed and I personally thought Danny was harshly excluded there. If in heat 4 Gino’s bike hadn’t backed up on the last bend while on a 5-1 then Gino would have had 8+1 and we would have won by two points but I agree problem was choice of guest at Number 1 if Stevie was in that team we walk that tonight and I feel we should have gone for somebody like Lawson or Richie Worrall to guest at number 1 instead, just hope Stevie is back soon as he will be missed until he is back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OdsalBoy Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 IRONED ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Tosh1218 said: Tonight is proof that pts were lost through getting a guest nearly 3 pts under Stevie Worrall average , we know steve is going to be out for a while so let's sign a proven no 1 to lead the other 6 contracted riders . Newcastle are built with a strong 6 and 7 so the other 5 have to outscore there top 5 . For me bust a gut to get an 8.5 pts plus to Steve's average as a temporary replacement or results will pass us by try and get Sam Masters or an ex premier rider . In the past a 2 pt defeat at Newcastle in the past was a good result but so deflated tonight and fear choosing the wrong guest will haunt us thoughts please Like there are just loads and loads of available number 1's NOT! Masters would already be somewhere if he wanted to do Premier League. He doesn't. end of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Was Rob thinking that because of last weeks result we could cope with Kerr at no1. He is NOT a no1 & we need a no1 to replace a no 1 whether he has rode Newcastle well before or not. This IS THE problem though. What a rider scores previously is not what he can score for us. Look back to last year when Howarth was scoring for fun against us but when he guested for us we expected more. It is all about on the day & at the end of it we were beat. We have to shake ourselves down, regroup for this next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 by the way, there is another topic for the Scorpions for 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 14 hours ago, IronScorpion said: Was Rob thinking that because of last weeks result we could cope with Kerr at no1. He is NOT a no1 & we need a no1 to replace a no 1 whether he has rode Newcastle well before or not. This IS THE problem though. What a rider scores previously is not what he can score for us. Look back to last year when Howarth was scoring for fun against us but when he guested for us we expected more. It is all about on the day & at the end of it we were beat. We have to shake ourselves down, regroup for this next week. He is a second string riding at no 2 for us albeit a very good second string Thought Richie would have been a better choice to replace his brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Being last years rider, Rob knows what he did last year (10 & 16) but a lot of riders are not up to speed yet. Lawson scored 8 in both visits & R Worrall scored 10 & 14. It is hard to get the right guest, but without being there, reading the updates, Kerr was pushing in his 1st but couldn't get past, scored 5 in his next 2 then last in the hard ht13. We have been outscored in both matches in the reserve department & I think most expected more from Allen & Nielsen who normally rides the small tracks well (Mildenhall, Plymouth & Rye House). It seems from what D Peet has said was that although the spirit is there, the lads were trying, it just did not happen on the day. Just take other results that have happened this last 2 weeks. Peterborough's results against Lakeside & Ipswich & Glasgows loss at Berwick are a few that, I think, most would say, were unexpected, if being truthfull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 5 hours ago, IronScorpion said: Being last years rider, Rob knows what he did last year (10 & 16) but a lot of riders are not up to speed yet. Lawson scored 8 in both visits & R Worrall scored 10 & 14. It is hard to get the right guest, but without being there, reading the updates, Kerr was pushing in his 1st but couldn't get past, scored 5 in his next 2 then last in the hard ht13. We have been outscored in both matches in the reserve department & I think most expected more from Allen & Nielsen who normally rides the small tracks well (Mildenhall, Plymouth & Rye House). It seems from what D Peet has said was that although the spirit is there, the lads were trying, it just did not happen on the day. Just take other results that have happened this last 2 weeks. Peterborough's results against Lakeside & Ipswich & Glasgows loss at Berwick are a few that, I think, most would say, were unexpected, if being truthfull. Difficulty last night was the track was hard compacted to make sure the track didn't mess up during the meeting. Rain was forecast so the track was moist, but not like normal. A slick track didn't allow much passing so gaters and blasters around the outside did not have a track they needed when they missed the gate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 Since the fixtures were published about 3 months ago, the home match V Glasgow Sunday 22 July has had a start time of 5pm (TBC). Can anyone confirm when the start time will be confirmed and announced to the public. Was hoping to go to this match, but will not keep my options for this date open indefinately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) i think previous years we had glasgow after cardiff and was put forward to 4pm, for the fans to get home a bit earlier Edited April 18, 2018 by Paul Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 I think this fixture was made to attract fans leaving Cardiff & getting home. By the time fans leave the Cardiff area, I would think there would be a change of drivers/toilet break & maybe 4pm was cutting it fine , hence it being put back 1 hour. I think it is best to check your promotion for the answers that you require. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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