Steve Shovlar Posted April 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) The sample size is far too small to say that. If he had a high averge over 10-12 meetings then fair enough. But the 90th anniversry plus one league meeting are not enough to give a true average! Edited April 14, 2018 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Worralls home average at the end of last season was 6.55. Call it 7. So you are saying r/r won’t get 7? Fricke will get 3. Tungate 2 or 3. Starke 1 or 2, Bewley 2 or 3. That’s at least 8, covering easily. As has been explained Worrall has been on fire this year. His average this year from the two home meetings is 10.18, which is effectively 12/13 points from the 5 rides he would probably have had. R/r won't score 10 and will deny us the opportunity to use him in heat 15, it definitely weakens us. Etheridge in his only home meeting scored 4. The best Colt's rider is Smith but his average last year and his scores so far riding at reserve for Sheffield don't indicate he would score that many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Aces51 said: As has been explained Worrall has been on fire this year. His average this year from the two home meetings is 10.18, which is effectively 12/13 points from the 5 rides he would probably have had. R/r won't score 10 and will deny us the opportunity to use him in heat 15, it definitely weakens us. Etheridge in his only home meeting scored 4. The best Colt's rider is Smith but his average last year and his scores so far riding at reserve for Sheffield don't indicate he would score that many. Early days mate, im sure that average will drop a bit as the season progress's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: The sample size is far too small to say that. If he had a high averge over 10-12 meetings then fair enough. But the 90th anniversry plus one league meeting are not enough to give a true average! And too small to say his 7 point home average from last season is a truer reflection. 2nd in the Open meeting (a star studded one at that) and top scoring on 13 plus 13+1 and one dropped point in the home match gives a much truer picture of his scoring capabilities at home so far this season. Seems evident to anyone watching him that he looked to have taken a bit step up this year. Completely unreplaceable and RR is way to weakening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Its like saying James shanes is a world beater after scoring a maximum 15 at the begining of last season for Poole against Wolves. At least ten meetings needed to show a true average. A meaningless 90th anniversary meeting where riders are testing etc and one home meeting against Swindon are not a true reflection of a riders average. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 42 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Worralls home average at the end of last season was 6.55. Call it 7. So you are saying r/r won’t get 7? Fricke will get 3. Tungate 2 or 3. Starke 1 or 2, Bewley 2 or 3. That’s at least 8, covering easily. I'd suggest current form is a better indicator, and he has been awesome at the NSS this season, whereas as good as Tungate can be round there he hasn't got going yet. No doubt whatsoever Worrall will be a big miss as he was the other night. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 3 hours ago, geoff58 said: with what ? went to poole weds nothing changed track is still a gaters Aces team !!! come back monday night around 9-30pm Get off my case re my spelling i think im entitled to make the odd mistake after what ive been through as i say, you are welcome to swap places... Nothing wrong with our track, Glyn did very well to get the meeting on given it was under water in the morning. it will be far better when we get some settled weather and turns 1-2 bed in properly which they havnt really had a chance to do.. All its done down here is rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Kurtz 8.08 Josh 7.34 Sundstrom 7.75 Kildemand 9.00 Woryna 6.50 Scz 6.50 Shanes 2.95 48.12 Cook 8.45 Steve 5.80 Rohan 6.18 Starke 5.08 Max 7.39 Dan 4.59 ???? 2.50 39.99 When applying the correct averages to the Poole team and factoring in our injury ravaged teams replacements an away victory is a forgone conclusion. A team totalling nearly fifty against a team in the thirties doesn’t make for a thrilling encounter but much like last week Poole can only beat what’s in front of them. Should be some good racing though and I’m sure I’ll stay till the end this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 38 minutes ago, ouch said: Kurtz 8.08 Josh 7.34 Sundstrom 7.75 Kildemand 9.00 Woryna 6.50 Scz 6.50 Shanes 2.95 48.12 Cook 8.45 Steve 5.80 Rohan 6.18 Starke 5.08 Max 7.39 Dan 4.59 ???? 2.50 39.99 When applying the correct averages to the Poole team and factoring in our injury ravaged teams replacements an away victory is a forgone conclusion. A team totalling nearly fifty against a team in the thirties doesn’t make for a thrilling encounter but much like last week Poole can only beat what’s in front of them. Should be some good racing though and I’m sure I’ll stay till the end this time. Correct in your head but not anyone elses. Your missus keeps asking you if you have been taking your medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, geoff58 said: kildermand is not 9.00 otherwise he would not be allowed to cover holder !! Would have been a 9 if starting the season like Piotr and Woffy tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Its like saying James shanes is a world beater after scoring a maximum 15 at the begining of last season for Poole against Wolves. At least ten meetings needed to show a true average. A meaningless 90th anniversary meeting where riders are testing etc and one home meeting against Swindon are not a true reflection of a riders average. If Kurtz was missing from your next home meeting and someone said " RR will get you 8.08 points " What would to say in reply Not the team would make it up.A proper reply. Edited April 14, 2018 by Bald Bloke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: If Kurtz was missing from your next home meeting and someone said " RR will get you 8.08 points " What would to say in reply Swindon v Belle Vue 22/3/18 2. Steve Worrall - 1, 1, 1, 2 = 5 Yep. Worrall would have gone through the card at Poole. And to answer your question, no problem as the others will score enough to bring us home. Edited April 14, 2018 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Steve Shovlar said: Swindon v Belle Vue 22/3/18 2. Steve Worrall - 1, 1, 1, 2 = 5 Yep. Worrall would have gone through the card at Poole. Nice swerve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Steve Shovlar said: Swindon v Belle Vue 22/3/18 2. Steve Worrall - 1, 1, 1, 2 = 5 Yep. Worrall would have gone through the card at Poole. That is because he was against Swindon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, A ORLOV said: That is because he was against Swindon Then anything less than 55 points for Swindon on Wednesday has to be a failure, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Starman2006 said: Early days mate, im sure that average will drop a bit as the season progress's You may well be right, it will be very difficult to maintain a home average of 10+ but we're not talking about as the season progresses we are talking about Worrall's form now and how many points he would have scored on Monday. It Is not Poole's fault that they are fortunate to be meeting us now, it is simply circumstance but even so some, a very few, Poole supporters can't just acknowledge the fact but instead make themselves look silly by trying to argue we are not weakened. Edited April 14, 2018 by Aces51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) Current form? Think some people are getting a bit excited over an individual opener and one home meeting. 2. Steve Worrall - 1, 1, 1, 2 = 5Read more: http://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/thread/17517/belle-vue-charity-shield-2018#ixzz5CfphLw1a Edited April 14, 2018 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 25 minutes ago, Aces51 said: You may well be right, it will be very difficult to maintain a home average of 10+ but we're not talking about as the season progresses we are talking about Worrall's form now and how many points he would have scored on Monday. It Is not Poole's fault that they are fortunate to be meeting us now, it is simply circumstance but even so some, a very few, Poole supporters can't just acknowledge the fact but instead make themselves look silly by trying to argue we are not weakened. Yeh he's in good form granted, and as you say, it will be nigh on imposible to maintain that sort of form. But its still debatable as to how many points he would or would not have scored at Poole. 3 good scores in 8 is not a good average, so you just dont know, he could have scored 10, or he could have scored 6. Who knows.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 But at the NSS virtually impossible to replace on current form by RR or guest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Current form? Think some people are getting a bit excited over an individual opener and one home meeting. 2. Steve Worrall - 1, 1, 1, 2 = 5Read more: http://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/thread/17517/belle-vue-charity-shield-2018#ixzz5CfphLw1a You do realise this is the Belle Vue v Poole thread and that we are discussing his form at the NSS not at Swindon? Edited April 14, 2018 by Aces51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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