hyabb17 Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Matt Ford Fan said: To make it easy for you. I believe everyone that's not on Swindon's side. Learn what “hindsight & Irony” mean & then perhaps we can have an adult conversation. Other than that....bye! Edited April 14, 2018 by hyabb17 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, hyabb17 said: Learn what “hindsight & Irony” mean & then perhaps we can have an adult conversation. Other than that....bye! I know what it means. Swindon proven liars in the past so I don't see why I should take there word over other people's especially after the BWD fiasco last year. You take care now. Bye bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 34 minutes ago, Matt Ford Fan said: I know what it means. Swindon proven liars in the past so I don't see why I should take there word over other people's especially after the BWD fiasco last year. You take care now. Bye bye. *their.......oh dear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, hyabb17 said: *their.......oh dear. Oh dear indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Matt Ford Fan said: Oh dear indeed. Learn how “their” (the owner of something) & there (as in a place) works kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 6 hours ago, Mr Bump said: Exactly. The idea of allowing riders from each team to feel track conditions on the bike beforehand would likely have prevented the subsequent problems. Can’t believe that would be difficult to implement. Hope someone’s listening. The Clerk of the Course offered the riders the chance to try the track out b4 the meeting. Nobody took up the offer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 23 hours ago, g13webb said: When these situations happens, it should be essential that the BSPA learn from them and make amendments to address any issues that became evident. It is wrong to place the blame squarely on the Referee. Track conditions can change and riders opinions can as well. We need to have guidelines in place to react when these situations happen... Bearing in mind the number of cancelled meetings we have had since the introduction of the fixtures list I would've thought it would be imperative to amend the list now instead of waiting till the end of the season, like last year, when clubs needed to play 3 or 4 meetings in a week just to get them in.. Surely, we are not going to do that fiasco again...... It needs to be sorted NOW....... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 5 hours ago, Fred Flange said: Apparently 'all the riders were happy to start' so is it normal for the clerk of the course to offer riders the opportunity to 'try the track b4 the meeting' when none of the riders have complained about the track. Maybe it is standard practice when the clerk of the course is concerned for rider safety even if the riders are 'happy', otherwise it doesn't really add up does it? A more plausible explanation is that at least one (or more?) riders expressed concerns before the meeting prompting the offer to try the track. There is a precedent, woofinden moaned about the nss on opening night, all the other riders were happy but the clerk of the course offered everyone a practice, which was successfully completed, but woofinden still wasn't happy and the meeting was abandoned. The comparison with NSS opening night is an interesting one. From what I've read, and notwithstanding the issues with the track base construction, one of the factors was that track surface conditions changed within quite a short time frame, and this was associated with a drop in temperature attire allied with damp air. This being the case, and with similar atmospheric conditions applying at Swindon, those responsible for the management and control of the meeting should have taken a more pro_active approach but instead what is emerging, is a picture of anything but that. The consequences are two riders injured unnecessarily and further damage to the credibility of speedway in the UK. The Polish paymasters will of course be taking note, with possible consequences in terms of riders being allowed to race over here, and at a time when the league here desperately needs a main sponsor this is yet another good reason for a potential sponsor to have second thoughts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Fred Flange said: Apparently 'all the riders were happy to start' so is it normal for the clerk of the course to offer riders the opportunity to 'try the track b4 the meeting' when none of the riders have complained about the track. Maybe it is standard practice when the clerk of the course is concerned for rider safety even if the riders are 'happy', otherwise it doesn't really add up does it? A more plausible explanation is that at least one (or more?) riders expressed concerns before the meeting prompting the offer to try the track. There is a precedent, woofinden moaned about the nss on opening night, all the other riders were happy but the clerk of the course offered everyone a practice, which was successfully completed, but woofinden still wasn't happy and the meeting was abandoned. He offered them the chance of a practice ride as the normal paraded was cancelled to speed things up, as they were worried about weather that was predicted to come in later. All the riders usually have a practice ride following the parade. It is without doubt, right that the meeting should have been called off Danny King has said that in hindsight, the meeting should never have started but agreed that he was quite happy for the meeting to go ahead at the time. Edited April 15, 2018 by DunRobin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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