liam Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) Not the best meeting I have seen but you can only beat what’s in front of you and I expected a bit more from the witches for a team tipped to be fighting for the title. All the Lakeside riders rode well I thought and it was good to see Alfie score his first points and for Ipswich I was impressed with Mountain with King and Schlein doing as expected. Have to agree with the earlier comment regarding heat 8 from where I was standing it looked a classic case of all four back. Edited April 13, 2018 by liam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 This lakeside team already proving itself with the home track advantage!! Feel the witches team is just going to start slow and build and build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted April 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Track still lacking a bit of grip, race times were pretty slow, but to be fair there was still some good racing, the track appeared nice and smooth and you could attack it but it was hard to generate much around the outside, probably overall better than the Peterborough match although that isn't saying much I know. Danny King and Rory Schlein proved their liking for the track and the former had some very good battles and literally never gave up, For Hammers Adam and Richard were really flying and Alfie will have gained a lot of confidence from tonight, he rode well and didn't panic when in points scoring positions. Think the crowd was a little up on last week but still not what I have known down there, maybe with next weeks meeting being a league encounter, it might tempt a few more? I think Jon said something about Ulrich Ostergaard guesting next week, I believe it might be for Adam Ellis but I could be wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 I, too, thought it would be all four back in Heat 8 - can only assume the second exclusion was for not being under power at the time the red light came on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Was that normal for the quality of racing at Lakeside ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 minute ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: Was that normal for the quality of racing at Lakeside ? It is when they ain’t racing against much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, marko said: Track still lacking a bit of grip, race times were pretty slow, but to be fair there was still some good racing, the track appeared nice and smooth and you could attack it but it was hard to generate much around the outside, probably overall better than the Peterborough match although that isn't saying much I know. Danny King and Rory Schlein proved their liking for the track and the former had some very good battles and literally never gave up, For Hammers Adam and Richard were really flying and Alfie will have gained a lot of confidence from tonight, he rode well and didn't panic when in points scoring positions. Think the crowd was a little up on last week but still not what I have known down there, maybe with next weeks meeting being a league encounter, it might tempt a few more? I think Jon said something about Ulrich Ostergaard guesting next week, I believe it might be for Adam Ellis but I could be wrong? I thought he said he was guesting for Ellis when we go to Berwick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, liam said: It is when they ain’t racing against much. Fair comment but gate 1 has sooo much of an advantage 8 heat winners... Ellis in 3 but were there any more passes for either side... could have has 1 lap dsshes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: Fair comment but gate 1 has sooo much of an advantage 8 heat winners... Ellis in 3 but were there any more passes for either side... could have has 1 lap dsshes There was a bit more passing than one race but with four Ipswich riders only scoring 5 between them it’s not going to be a classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryce Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Not an all time classic meeting, but enjoyable enough. I was a bit dissapointed with the Witches, but fair play to King, Schlein and Mountain for giving it a good go. The Hammers are coming along nicely, and what a great confidence booster for Alfie tonight. He seemed a much happier guy after the meeting having fretted all week about not scoring. Ellis continues to impress and with Morris and Lawson will make a very powerful spearhead. This might actually be the year we finally start collecting decent points on the road. All the folks alongside us on the back straight stock car track also thought heat 8 should have been all 4 back. A weird decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daytripper Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) 54 minutes ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: Was that normal for the quality of racing at Lakeside ? No it’s usually better when the weather is better but with the amount of rain we’ve had, all the track curator can really do is get the track packed down hard so at least it didnt fall foul of the weather like so many others. The trouble is when it is packed down you pay the price with less grip. PersonallyI thought it was a better meeting last week but Awesome Lawson was, well, awesome. His sweep round the outside of bends 1&2 off gate 4 in heat 13 was quite exceptional, especially against a rider of Danny Kings quality. Gate 4 has a slight adverse camber and hardly anyone wins off of it in the big heats. Ippo’s problem was they had two riders who had never ridden the track before and just couldn’t get on with it. Good call by the ref in heat 8. There is no automatic right to all four back. One rider fell off on his own. The other hit the air fence and was not under power when the race was stopped. Edited April 13, 2018 by Daytripper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted April 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Also forgot to mention the sound system was much clearer last night, and having Andy back on the mic was good too, no disrespect meant to the other guy who is new and will take time to grow into the part, Andy just adds a little something to proceedings, he sounds confident and tries to get the crowd involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 8 hours ago, Daytripper said: Good call by the ref in heat 8. There is no automatic right to all four back. One rider fell off on his own. The other hit the air fence and was not under power when the race was stopped. There’s not an automatic right to all four back no - but standing on the second bend it was clear to see all four made a good start together it got nipped up and Bowtell from gate two made clear contact with haertel and haertel with Morley on the outside - both continued on trying to save it and subsequently fell of on their own but it was a clear case of first bend bunching and the ref denied the paying public of a speedway race with all four riders back in! Wouldn’t have made much difference to be result but just seemed a very harsh decision on the two young lads racing hard for the first corner! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 49 minutes ago, 89buttons said: There’s not an automatic right to all four back no - but standing on the second bend it was clear to see all four made a good start together it got nipped up and Bowtell from gate two made clear contact with haertel and haertel with Morley on the outside - both continued on trying to save it and subsequently fell of on their own but it was a clear case of first bend bunching and the ref denied the paying public of a speedway race with all four riders back in! Wouldn’t have made much difference to be result but just seemed a very harsh decision on the two young lads racing hard for the first corner! That’s exactly how I saw it aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitykat Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) It's been a fair few years since I last visited Arena, and it's exactly how I remember it, apart from the smaller crowd. Edited April 14, 2018 by Kitykat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Bonus from tonight was a more controlled performance from Alfie Bowtell ,,the lad has top class gating ability and.with improved confidence from last night could be the turning point for him.. after previous performances where he did not look ready for this level of racing......Heat 8 was an appalling decision by another useless ref,, one of the most obvious first bend bunching situations i have ever seen ..the standard of refereeing is at a low ebb in speedway.,.Thought the crowd was decent and the meeting had its moments ,Lawson and Ellis were outstanding,,,,but riders giving it a real go on a wide line are still not getting enough help from the track .,,more dirt is needed .The Hammers look a solid unit and i think we can expect a decent season home and away..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Crowd looked ok to me with people being spread out on the two straights, what is a good attendance for this level of speedway? Didn’t look that much difference to when we was in the elite league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted April 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 I have my second division specs on but I think we can match if not beat Elite crowds with good results and racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 I agree with the comments about heat 8. Quite clearly the ref' got it wrong...sadly as they so often do. But this was a good performance by our team and looks good for the season. Just hope we steer clear of injuries. I think Bowtell will prove to be an ace in the hole and I have high hopes for this young man who I first saw in a training school at Rye House. Was impressed then, and nothing has changed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) Wow, is that really classed as a good decent crowd? And I dare not mention what I thought of the racing, even the sweet shop was closed before I got there on the way out, which is when I wanted some for journey home. Lakeside have a very handy team, and Ellis was in a different class to anything ipswich had to offer. Edited April 14, 2018 by Baldyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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