Poole v Belle Vue SGB Premiership A. 11th April 2018

[Crazy robin]

9 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

Shanes was replaced by fellow reserve Szczepaniak - nothing new or unusual there.

Exactly & with all the stupid rule changes over the years they never change it.

[Mark]

Batch on a soggy track.  Oh no !

[Bagpuss]

2 minutes ago, tellboy said:

I'll await Shovlar's official match report.I'm sure he will come up with something like a great meeting with plenty of passing etc etc.

But i prefer what you said as it seems unbiased.

I think we can conclude from the evidence available that the racing was poor and Belle Vue probably would have won the meeting with their declared 1-7 and no guests, regardless of what propaganda is forthcoming.

[poolebolton]

I agree with Gavan. 

 

Can only beat what is in front of you. Without Holder as well. 

 

Important thing is 3 points!!! 

No point in saying if BV had this guy or that guy. Just get on with it. 

[Bald Bloke]

4 minutes ago, poolebolton said:

'ntI agree with Gavan. 

 

Can only beat what is in front of you. Without Holder as well. 

 

Important thing is 3 points!!! 

No point in saying if BV had this guy or that guy. Just get on with it. 

The King's Lynn Folder would ride that track.Or if he did wouldn't give a chuff.With his mate Batch.

Edited April 11, 2018 by Bald Bloke

[poolebolton]

1 minute ago, Bald Bloke said:

The King's Lynn Folder would ride that track.Or if he did wouldn't give a chuff.With his mate Batch.

You have to start the season eventually. Track wasn’t dangerous so ride it. Watch Poland highlights not many passes on Sunday either. 

 

[WestGorton1884]

 

Batchelor 1 + 1 ....Shocking performance  

 good to see Dan Bewley amongst the points 

Early days ,but think the Aces team needs some tinkering with  ? 

Edited April 11, 2018 by WestGorton1884

[Bald Bloke]

Just now, poolebolton said:

You have to start the season eventually. Track wasn’t dangerous so ride it. Watch Poland highlights not many passes on Sunday either. 

 

It wasn't at Lynn..The so called "lesser" riders rode it.Meeting finished..

[Daniel Smith]

 

9 minutes ago, poolebolton said:

Important thing is 3 points!!! 

Not really, the most important thing is you got value for money, did you?

Getting a meeting on and winning doesn't justify paying for a poor product which by all accounts, tonight was far from worth paying for if you were to be brutally honest wasn't it?

[poolebolton]

4 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

It wasn't at Lynn..The so called "lesser" riders rode it.Meeting finished..

Yer exactly. 

 

Its like this if we had this guy we would have won. 

Like saying if we had KK we wanted last season we would have won the title. 

Massively invalid argument. 

[poolebolton]

Just now, Daniel Smith said:

 

Not really, the most important thing is you got value for money, did you?

Getting a meeting on and winning doesn't justify paying for a poor product which by all accounts, tonight was far from worth paying for if you were to be brutally honest wasn't it?

You never get value for money in every sport. 

Doesn't matter what sport you watch. 

 

Just seeing some live speedway was nice. And what you going to do every time the track doesn't produce loads of overtakes say sorry lets come back another day ??

If you do that i guess poland will never have a race because judging those 4 meetings and 60 heats of speedway wasn't many overtakes all weekend. 

[Bald Bloke]

The riders who think they were above the club said it was not ridable.The so called "lesser" riders rode it and completed the meeting.The "top" riders have more talent,but bottled it.Or have to much money and think of themselves only

Edited April 11, 2018 by Bald Bloke

[ray c]

poor meeting tonight all you can say we got three points if craig had been there we may have gone away with no points .no passing at all really cant judge on one meeting can we . as for shovlar saying a big crowd just average

Edited April 11, 2018 by ray c

[Bald Bloke]

1 minute ago, ray c said:

poor meeting tonight all you can say we got thrre points if craig had been there we may have gone away with no points .no passing at all really cant judge on one meeting can we . as for shovlar saying a big crowd just average

Honest opinion. Thanks Ray. Always respect your posts. Thats how I saw it via Updates.

So much rain, and on a newly layed  track. Was never going to go 100% I guess.

[speedy bill]

congratulations to Cookie and partner on the birth of their daughter.  Learn not to trust a guest the meeting meant nothing to him,well done Dan and PAUL .see Tungate was his inconsistent self  ,changes on the way. Cant believe Poole or anyone being allowed to use a pole at reserve if they are not in top five should be shown the door ,put a  young Brit in like the poles do.

 

[BobC]

Not a bad meeting,but also not a good one either.

Track clearly very patchy which caught all riders out. No ones fault, just awful weather leading up to Wednesday.

Bewley poor in Ht2, otherwise always in the mix.Looks so good on a bike.Starke good value too. Best Ive seen Fricke for a while.

Of course, If BV had either Worrall or Cook, they could easily taken something from this meeting.Then again, if Tungate had bothered to turn up, who knows?

Just pleased to get the win, if a touch fortunate.

Good to meet up with Phil the Ace and Claire. Hope you had a safe journey home.

Edited April 11, 2018 by BobC

[Steve Shovlar]

Well just got back after going to the after meeting press conference. A new innovation for Poole this year and very good even with the teething issues of a mic cutting in and out. Perhaps next week then can set up so the radio mic the riders are using has a clear line of sight to the receiver?

Anyway onto the meeting. A very good first night crowd turned up on a mild night. A chat to a couple of riders before hand brought up the issue of a spongy track. On viewing it, it looked ok but I wasn’t walking on it. 

Not the greatest of meetings. Other than Brady and James, the team were like an away team, with us having no home advantage. Both Kacsper and Linus said after the meeting they didn’t know the racing lines and it showed. Well until they had taken a couple of rides. After heat 6 Poole became dominant and any hope Belle Vue had of taking anything out of the meeting vanished faster than Bachelors van out of the stadium after heat 13.

The track was smooth but spongy and heavy. It will certainly improve and with a dry week ahead should be much better next week for the visit of Swindon. Oh, and the return of Batchelor.

On to the riders.

For Poole.

Brady. Worst number one in the league? Blitzed everyone. A class above and not troubled. Said after the meeting this year he is concentrating on his away form and as a number one, avoiding any really bad meetings on his travels. 10/10

Kacsper. Was second in his first ride when Starked locked up in front of him. Took avoiding action to end up at the back. In his next he rode all the wrong lines, but then got it right with two superb rides. Said in the conference it will take him a little time to find the best way around but was disappointed in his performance. 7/10

Josh. Battled in every heat without looking like he would win one. His gating let him down. Was disappointed in the conference. 6/10

Linus. Solid throught and improved as the meeting went on. Got his first win in Pirates colours. 7/10

PK. Woeful in his first with Shanes coming through on him into the last lap. Then had a couple of aggressive wins. 6/10

Mateusz. Led heat 2 by a straight before having an ef on the back straight of lap 4. Battled all night and rode defensively when he neeed to. Would have scored paid 9 on his debut but for the ef. 6/10

James. Not his best night, but he tried in his three rides and saw off Bewley in heat 2. Will have better meetings. 4/10

For Belle Vue.

Batchelor. Taxi for Troy. Rubbish and I didn’t type rubbish. Didn’t fancy it one bit. More of the same next week please!

Starke. Rode well all night. Fast trapping in the early heats and then rode sensibly. Deserved heat 15. 7/10

Lawson. Rode well for a win in his first but then went awol. 3/10

Tungate. Very poor. Gated in heat 7 but Kildemand got by after a lap. Other than that, like Lawson, went awol. 2/10

Fricke. Battled all night. Had the fastest time of the night. Beaten by Brady twice and Linus, but always in the mix. 8/10

Etheridge. Gifted a win in heat 2 when Mateusz’ bike packed up, then not close to a point. 3/10

Bewley. Nowhere in his first but then rode very well in his other heats. Made a good pass of Kildemand up in the inside off bend two in heat 4. 7/10

A reasonable opener. Not the greatest in the way of racing but the tension was there as Belle Vue took a decent lead, only for Poole to come on strong from heat 6. Unfortunately for Belle Vue, the chance was there tonight to get something out of the meeting. With 5 of the Pirates not knowing the fastest way around and not yet dialled in, plus a spongy track not conducive of much passing, we could have come a cropper. But a poor guest for Cook in Batchelor took away any possibility of a shock result. As the weeks go by Wimborne Road could well turn into a fortress.

 

Edited April 11, 2018 by Steve Shovlar

[Gavan]

And that match report never fails to make you laugh!

Poole would have lost if Cook and Worrall had of rode simple as that. 

 

[Supersub]

Yes not much overtaking  but we should be grateful we had a meeting on despite all the rain .  All Poole’s new riders improved as the meeting went on and they got dialled in . 

Batchelor and Lawson were not good guests  but is  pure speculation whether Cook and Worrall could’ve done a lot better. Probably I agree they would have done, but it was early season and the track was not easy. Let’s see what happens in the B fixture if both sides are similar as starting lineups

 In summary It was not a great meeting but after all the rain we have had it was just good to see some racing and the result in the end what’s the right one for the performances on the night

[Steve Shovlar]

 

Belle Vue wouldn’t have had a better chance. Makes the win even more enjoyable. They won’t get another chance this year. Pirates will be dialled in by the next few meetings.

Pirates top of the league. Happy days!