steve roberts Posted November 26, 2022 Report Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 minute ago, stevehone said: so they paid out more than they had come in? ...the speedway was apparently subsiding their other businesses. However most, if not all, clubs have traditionally paid out more than any revenue they manage to accumulate so there's nothing new there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted November 26, 2022 Report Share Posted November 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, steve roberts said: ...the speedway was apparently subsiding their other businesses. However most, if not all, clubs have traditionally paid out more than any revenue they manage to accumulate so there's nothing new there. true, which is why it needs sorting out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted November 26, 2022 Report Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 minute ago, stevehone said: true, which is why it needs sorting out ...trouble is many tracks nowadays are run by wealthy "supporters" and not promoters in the truest sense and often end up getting their fingers burnt. Love him or hate him but Reg Fearman was of the old school (well worth reading his autobiography) and was a well respected promoter although Neil Middleditch may not agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted November 26, 2022 Report Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, steve roberts said: ...the speedway was apparently subsiding their other businesses. However most, if not all, clubs have traditionally paid out more than any revenue they manage to accumulate so there's nothing new there. If Captain Hook had two hooks instead of one and two wooden legs I reckon he could count on his fingers and toes how many promoters use profits from their Speedway to subsidise their other businesses 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted November 26, 2022 Report Share Posted November 26, 2022 2 hours ago, stevehone said: but the CLUB can restrict, and if sponsors want to pay that's up to them, but should be separate from the clubs But clubs don’t restrict do they, what they say and what they do are generally very different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted November 27, 2022 Report Share Posted November 27, 2022 Speedway (albeit on a much lesser scale) is no different to football. The clubs withe richest owners, biggest sponsors and profitable businesses to subsidise them are the clubs who do all the winning and own a large rider asset base. Gate receipts at those clubs will never cover the costs of riders "pay packages" and all the other associated operating costs. When these owners lose interest or they wish to concentrate on running their businesses , the club folds often with large debts. Belle Vue bought the Premier League p.off title by affording a large fee for a guest. Poole have always been able to offer their overseas riders an accommodation package and other benefits courtesy of their promoters hotel. There cannot be a single PL or CL club running today that is honestly a viable business, without being propped up by sponsorship and subsidy every season. Unless there is a sudden resurgence in crowd levels to that of 20 years ago - nothing will change. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted November 27, 2022 Report Share Posted November 27, 2022 Having heard some mind boggling figures (for speedway anyway) it always seemed to me like the riders demands easily outweighed the clubs income. Almost like the goose was happy to destroy the golden egg... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 No speedway star still, must be the Postie strike causing the delay , oh well only £50 in his tip this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 3 hours ago, topaz325 said: No speedway star still, must be the Postie strike causing the delay , oh well only £50 in his tip this year. None for me either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 6 hours ago, topaz325 said: No speedway star still, must be the Postie strike causing the delay , oh well only £50 in his tip this year. Still to arrive in deepest west Cumbria 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Neila said: Still to arrive in deepest west Cumbria Yes Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnThomsen Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 I used to get mine from Sainsbury's but it wasnt always available. I now have an "E" subscription. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmon Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 Hasn't arrived in Linlithgow yet so earliest it will come will be, Thursday, a week late with the Posties being on strike tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 Still no Star in Cumbria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 Or in East Yorkshire, had regular post pretty much every day tho. Seems the 'Stars are being collected late by Royal Mail.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 Since they stopped using Royal Mail in my area I've had the star every Thursday except once when it was Friday . Pretty impressive as its got to have been a good 2 to 3 years I'd have thought 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 hours ago, martinmauger said: Or in East Yorkshire, had regular post pretty much every day tho. Seems the 'Stars aren't being collected late by Royal Mail.... Seems Stars not being collected.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 No Star yet Midlothian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 20 hours ago, bruno said: Since they stopped using Royal Mail in my area I've had the star every Thursday except once when it was Friday . Pretty impressive as its got to have been a good 2 to 3 years I'd have thought Same for me. When it came by Royal Mail it was almost 50/50 whether it was on time or late/delivered to wrong address/not at all. Much better since it changed and it's delivered 6-7am every Thursday, no issues at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted December 15, 2022 Report Share Posted December 15, 2022 Ours arrived as usual on time this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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