British Under 21

[East End Fan]

I really wonder at the common sense existing in some of the brains of contributors to this column.  The Under 21  FINAL had to be on a Tuesday and

it seems that David Mason was not aware that he could run on that day and, quite rightly informed the BSPA who, naturally had to find another venue

( Now Berwick...not a great choice IMO, but they may have had no reasonable alternatives). THEN the semi-final at Newcastle was rained off and, once

again the BSPA had to find an alternative....and very quickly...Birmingham, it seems , applied and were successful.  So tell me, all you Clever Dicks,

what is to be criticised in that ?

[Tsunami]

On 11/04/2018 at 3:10 PM, East End Fan said:

I really wonder at the common sense existing in some of the brains of contributors to this column.  The Under 21  FINAL had to be on a Tuesday and

it seems that David Mason was not aware that he could run on that day and, quite rightly informed the BSPA who, naturally had to find another venue

( Now Berwick...not a great choice IMO, but they may have had no reasonable alternatives). THEN the semi-final at Newcastle was rained off and, once

again the BSPA had to find an alternative....and very quickly...Birmingham, it seems , applied and were successful.  So tell me, all you Clever Dicks,

what is to be criticised in that ?

Quite correct. Seems to me to be a very amicable rearrangement. All those folks saying they couldn't go to Berwick cos it was too far away, now have a chance to go to Birmingham. Let's see them all flood the place out with their presence. Some of course wouldn't be able to get out of a box, never mind rearrange fixtures so quickly and so amicably. 

Edited April 12, 2018 by Tsunami

[uk_martin]

Not much sympathy for the travelling fans here is there? Anyone remember the travelling fan? Those fans who followed their favourite team or riders all over the country and who organised their lives around the fixture list? Speedway used to have some of those in the olden days, before promoters made being a travelling fan into a hellish experience.

Yeah, that endangered species...Those who booked time off work to go to the original fixture, who may have booked a hotel if they didn't fancy the drive back afterwards, who then had their day off work wasted, and who had to cancel their hotel booking possibly losing their money in the process, not to mention needing to book more time off work, now that the fixture is on a Wednesday, possibly needing another hotel booking... Who cares about messing fans about? Not the BSPA / SCB, that's for sure, and not by the looks of it, those whose idea of "going to the speedway" means sitting at the computer "watching" the Speedway Updates site. No wonder the sport is losing it's fanbase.

#speedwayshambles

[East End Fan]

Well, UK_Martin,  With so many fixtures lost to the rain, including important stuff like the Under 21's, what would you have the promoters do ?

No one can control the weather, so to make that a reason to criticise promoters is utterly ridiculous.  All the promoters can do is to give out the

changed information as early as they can to give as many people as possible time to change their arrangements.  I think most of them actually try

do that.   I attend Lakeside, Sittingbourne and Eastbourne on a fairly regular basis, but not every week.  I have never attended any one of those tracks

and been sent home without seeing a meeting because of an incorrect early decision regarding rain.    I don't know what else anyone could do.

[soupy]

8 minutes ago, Richard Weston said:

The sad thing is the people have flagged up how woeful the "great" race was from the U-21 at Arlington (as promoted by Speedway GB) but we have heard nothing from SpeedwayGB to explain why they choose such a woeful heat to demonstrate the strengths of Uk speedway.

Why do they treat the fans with such contempt?

Someone in authority should climb down from their ivory tower and explain.

 

More chance of getting a postcard from the pope

[teaboy279]

I appreciate them giving us something to watch, could of posted the video and captioned it. British young lions fight on in torrid conditions. 

But to label it a great race just pisses off hardcore fans. And really turn off any joe bloggs stumbling across the video as if that's a great race how dull is a poor race?

[Woz01]

It's not like they have many heats to choose from so far this season.

[crescent girl]

Well, the semi-final is at Perry Barr and the Final is at Berwick.       Get over it. 

If these venues and dates don't suit everyone, then that's unfortunate but hardly unexpected.

Last year, the Final was at Poole, which was hardly an easy trip for speedway supporters in Glasgow or Edinburgh.    

Fair enough to move meetings around, surely?       

 

 

[uk_martin]

5 hours ago, crescent girl said:

Fair enough to move meetings around, surely? 

Juggle them around all you like before you publish the fixture list, but once the fixtures are published, stick to them.  Don't advertise that an event will be at location A, and then when people have had a chance to book hotels, take time off work, and make other arrangements, then move the event to the other end of the country. That's just blatant pi$$ taking.

 

[Tsunami]

On 11/04/2018 at 7:53 PM, East End Fan said:

Well, UK_Martin,  With so many fixtures lost to the rain, including important stuff like the Under 21's, what would you have the promoters do ?

No one can control the weather, so to make that a reason to criticise promoters is utterly ridiculous.  All the promoters can do is to give out the

changed information as early as they can to give as many people as possible time to change their arrangements.  I think most of them actually try

do that.   I attend Lakeside, Sittingbourne and Eastbourne on a fairly regular basis, but not every week.  I have never attended any one of those tracks

and been sent home without seeing a meeting because of an incorrect early decision regarding rain.    I don't know what else anyone could do.

UK Martin wouldn't have a clue how to solve the problems caused, as he is always too busy knocking anything to do with BSPA, SCB,  Speedway in general and anybody that appreciates British Speedway. Not worth a read.

[kitten2502]

1 hour ago, Tsunami said:

UK Martin wouldn't have a clue how to solve the problems caused, as he is always too busy knocking anything to do with BSPA, SCB,  Speedway in general and anybody that appreciates British Speedway. Not worth a read.

Unless it's Polish of course...............

[Argos]

UK Martin is a very bitter man 

[uk_martin]

14 hours ago, Tsunami said:

UK Martin wouldn't have a clue how to solve the problems caused, as he is always too busy knocking anything to do with BSPA, SCB,  Speedway in general and anybody that appreciates British Speedway. Not worth a read.

And how is the situation improved by deflecting the criticism onto the the person raising the issue?  Would you do that in any other walk of life?  

Customer to waiter - "the soup's cold"
Waiter to kitchen staff - "I bet the customer complaining about cold soup couldn't make a hot soup as he's too busy knocking anything made in these kitchens, blah blah..."

Yeah, that's an attitude that improves the situation. Customer care. Who, even former promoters, gives a damn about that in this sport?

 

[Reliant Robin]

10 minutes ago, uk_martin said:

And how is the situation improved by deflecting the criticism onto the the person raising the issue?  Would you do that in any other walk of life?  

Customer to waiter - "the soup's cold"
Waiter to kitchen staff - "I bet the customer complaining about cold soup couldn't make a hot soup as he's too busy knocking anything made in these kitchens, blah blah..."

Yeah, that's an attitude that improves the situation. Customer care. Who, even former promoters, gives a damn about that in this sport?

 

It must be the way in which you raise an issue that brings so much 'attention'.

Perhaps it would work better as 'excuse me, my soup is a bit cold, would it be possible to receive a warm replacement please?'

[East End Fan]

uk_martin must have a very unhappy life, finding fault in everything he sees.   Any of us have every right to criticise anything about our sport and the

actions of those in charge of it....BUT, such criticisms must be fair and not just for the sake of criticising.  I had a whinge this year over the silly 39

point limit that it seems was wished onto the N.L. promoters by the BSPA.  I could not, and do not, understand the motives behind that move unless

members of the senior leagues do not wish to see the standards go up in the 3rd league. Personally I would love to see all NL teams using riders up to the

required skill level instead of, as now, a number of riders in teams clearly not up to it.   THAT was my personal whinge, but uk_martin whinges about changed

fixtures caused by appalling weather....utterly ridiculous.

[Bagpuss]

Over the years you learn to take the majority of UKM's rantings with a pinch of salt .

[Guest GiveusaB]

I dont understand why UK M cant have a moan about what he wants?

He's just passionate about the sport he loves imo ?

He's probably just peed off with the BSPA for taking the Under 21 Final off the Brummies (like most bham fans are)

We were built up to be let down by a bunch of .........ers !

[teaboy279]

22 hours ago, GiveusaB said:

I dont understand why UK M cant have a moan about what he wants?

He's just passionate about the sport he loves imo ?

He's probably just peed off with the BSPA for taking the Under 21 Final off the Brummies (like most bham fans are)

We were built up to be let down by a bunch of .........ers !

That's a bit harsh on the Mason's they made a simple mistake.

[cityrebel]

13 hours ago, teaboy279 said:

That's a bit harsh on the Mason's they made a simple mistake.

Taking over the brummies might end up an expensive mistake!

[Guest GiveusaB]

On 14/04/2018 at 5:06 PM, teaboy279 said:

That's a bit harsh on the Mason's they made a simple mistake.

I was meaning the BSPA.... (unless you're being sarcastic ? )

I'm right behind anyone that puts their own money in to Birmingham speedway.