DJC Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 On 02/04/2018 at 7:06 PM, MattK said: Where do you get "hundreds of thousands" from? I think people are reading too much into this. For me, if VXR can professionally market TeamGB (or whatever they are called) to sponsored and ensure the team is properly funded they have done a good job. The value of test matches in an era when the top riders race in all major leagues seems needless. Whilst I agree that the additional pull they would hopefully have in increasing sponsorship and funding would be a job well done, in my mind test matches are a necessity to progress. Top riders do race in major leagues - Woffy and Lambert, how will others get experience. Cook doesn't look as though he will be getting too many chances based on his performance yesterday and the comments about it. The Worralls have struggled as well. The importance will be who would fill the reserve births, getting the likes of Bewley/Clegg/Wajtknecht out there on 'proper tracks' that would be used on the world stage to aid their progression. Just having 1 or 2 decent riders wont get GB anywhere as we've seen in the last 15 seasons! Poland could pick any combination of around 12/13 riders for this new world cup thing and still be favourites, Denmark could pick from 5/6 and Russia the same. Gb have got 2 and only 1 of those is really world class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 So what this basically boils down to is an admission of failure by the speedway establishment, that they can't run a GB team competitively, for a toffee. There's no money coming in from TV, Terry Russell's SloSport International has failed to get any nationwide sponsorship.The ideas that Rob Lyon, Jonathan Chapman and Tai Woffinden had were far too radical over the years for the old fuddy-duddies to get their heads around. The SCB/BSPA can't afford it and no-one from within is bothered any more. Best just to let someone else have a go, give them the rights, let them take the risks, and see how they overcome the obstacles that the BSPA throw in the way when there's a fixture conflict between club and country at some point in the future. And who are VXR anyway? I thought it was a sporty Vauxhall car of some kind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 I was going to say it would likely be Worrall/Cook/Lambert at Belle Vue & Woffinden/Cook/Lambert at Wroclaw but Worralls injury has scuppered that idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 8 hours ago, Noodles said: I was going to say it would likely be Worrall/Cook/Lambert at Belle Vue & Woffinden/Cook/Lambert at Wroclaw but Worralls injury has scuppered that idea. I thought I had read that the named riders could not change between rounds so to include Woffy in Poland he would have to ride at Belle Vue too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 3 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: I thought I had read that the named riders could not change between rounds so to include Woffy in Poland he would have to ride at Belle Vue too Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted April 8, 2018 Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 14 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: I thought I had read that the named riders could not change between rounds so to include Woffy in Poland he would have to ride at Belle Vue too Thanks, I didn't know that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Tai Woffinden released the news at his talk-in at Berwick that this was going to happen and that he was extremely pleased about it and was involved with it so I would say once Rosco is gone Woffy will be back guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 All the indications are that Rosco is staying on as manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 On 05/04/2018 at 7:19 PM, DJC said: Whilst I agree that the additional pull they would hopefully have in increasing sponsorship and funding would be a job well done, in my mind test matches are a necessity to progress. Top riders do race in major leagues - Woffy and Lambert, how will others get experience. Cook doesn't look as though he will be getting too many chances based on his performance yesterday and the comments about it. The Worralls have struggled as well. The importance will be who would fill the reserve births, getting the likes of Bewley/Clegg/Wajtknecht out there on 'proper tracks' that would be used on the world stage to aid their progression. Just having 1 or 2 decent riders wont get GB anywhere as we've seen in the last 15 seasons! Poland could pick any combination of around 12/13 riders for this new world cup thing and still be favourites, Denmark could pick from 5/6 and Russia the same. Gb have got 2 and only 1 of those is really world class. Disagree. Yes Dudek/zmarzlik/drabik are likely favourites. But im not sure janowski/pawlicki/smaktala would be. And imo nothing between nki/nicki, doyle/holder, emil/laguta and tai/cook. Britains 2nd choice pair would be at least as good as Russia's ( i would saycstronger) though someway short of denmark/australia/poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Only trouble is Nicki and Madsen won’t ride for one reason or the other,so Denmark are weakened.Might even be another who won’t ride....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 7 hours ago, iris123 said: Only trouble is Nicki and Madsen won’t ride for one reason or the other,so Denmark are weakened.Might even be another who won’t ride....... How much longer will Hans Nielsen keep his job as Denmark team manager? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 I think I’ve got to the point where I’m not really bothered about if this Great Britain venture works or not but one thing I am curious about is how is it going to be funded ? All the ideas talked about cost money and mr painter says it will be self funded ,so where is the income coming from ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Could it be, after all the failed attempts to find it's location, that the Magic Money Tree has been found? I too can't see how this grand plan is going to come off. It all sounds great but seems to have little or no substance. Fingers crossed that the Great Britain Speedway Team is not only noticed more than it had been under it's other illegal moniker but that it manages some results which improve it's support. Are Test Matches with other countries really going to appear in the UK? In the crowded world speedway fixture list of today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 15 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I think I’ve got to the point where I’m not really bothered about if this Great Britain venture works or not but one thing I am curious about is how is it going to be funded ? All the ideas talked about cost money and mr painter says it will be self funded ,so where is the income coming from ? Must admit I thought the same thing. Race suits, bike covers, personal trainers, nutritionists, health care, rehabilitation, training camps, away test matches, hotels, travel etc Its all money going out without any money coming in. Another input other teams get is mechanical assistance, also not cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 16 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I think I’ve got to the point where I’m not really bothered about if this Great Britain venture works or not but one thing I am curious about is how is it going to be funded ? All the ideas talked about cost money and mr painter says it will be self funded ,so where is the income coming from ? One or more of the following perhaps: Sponsorship, partnerships, cash wash, merchandise, fundraising events, crowd funding, murder mystery night, Team GBFC, corporate prawn sandwich meet 'n' greets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Looking the best team of ultimate athletes with the best equipment isn’t going to mean jack unless you get results 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 4 hours ago, MattK said: One or more of the following perhaps: Sponsorship, partnerships, cash wash, merchandise, fundraising events, crowd funding, murder mystery night, Team GBFC, corporate prawn sandwich meet 'n' greets? And 50/50 raffle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 Another 2 pages in the speedway star today, it’s all bells and whistles and still no mention of how it’s going to be funded, they even talking about a high performance Center, where is the money coming from ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Another 2 pages in the speedway star today, it’s all bells and whistles and still no mention of how it’s going to be funded, they even talking about a high performance Center, where is the money coming from ? I thought it an excellent, well balanced article. Peter Oakes was able to fill two A4 pages with all the 'major coups' and superlative-packed prose so deftly. Directing the Communication without any hint of a conflict of interest issue. Well done, Granddad. Edited May 3, 2018 by Grand Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 6 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Another 2 pages in the speedway star today, it’s all bells and whistles and still no mention of how it’s going to be funded, they even talking about a high performance Center, where is the money coming from ? MY thoughts exactly so I did enquire further. Allegedly a whole package of major sponsorships are lined up which will fund the operation. I did wonder what exposure all these sponsors were going to get, given that at present just three riders will figure in two televised meetings (assuming GB get through at BV on June 5). Still more questions than answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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