Bluenose Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 What is going on ??? I thought they had done a good job cutting out the gardening,now its back. A couple of years ago Scotty did a lot of gardening the one meeting on TV, he nearly ran in to Titchmarshes Garden Rescue programme, What does everybody think ??????????????????????? THE Speedway Control Bureau have issued an amendment to Regulation 15.2.6. This previously required riders to remain astride their machines when preparing their Start area.With agreement from members of the BSPA Management Committee, the SCB have decided that Regulation 15.2.6 will revert back to the wording as per the 2017 Regulations. It therefore now reads:15.2.6 Only if a rider is at the Starting Gate with sufficient time remaining of the 2-minute allowance, be permitted to prepare their Start Area, provided they remain in full, personal control of their motorcycle, have their Cut – Out Lanyard attached, and with their motorcycle facing the direction of racing. The full SCB Regulations and Supplementary Regulations are available from http://scbgb.co.uk/regulations . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Blue Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 It was working .... therefore no option but to change it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Makes perfect sense - it clearly was not a very well considered amendment for this season. 2 minute clocks are what should have been implemented! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenose Posted March 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Its all health and safety now, the line ( provided they remain in full, personal control of their motorcycle, ) if i was still at work the Safety guys would say An accident waiting to happen !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 why does it matter what they do? what should have happened is they have 2 minute clocks and at the end of the 2 minutes if someone isnt ready to race theyre thrown out. for all i care they can go make a cup of tea, as long as they are ready at the two minutes why does it matter? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 So the rule is back to same as last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Riders have messed about at the start gate ever since I have watched speedway. The referees are the ones to blame for letting it happen. Refs are to lenient and weak to exclude people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWP Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Just get professional and make every club use a 2minute countdown clock. Then that ends all arguments. Not ready for tapes at time zero - excluded. Plus no rider to replace that rider. I saw a rider in Poland last year arrive at start with 20secs left. He was called forward by start marshal. Rider came to tapes then backed off to adjust his goggles and clock hit 0.00. Referee immediately excluded him. This rider had also been excluded for touching tapes earlier. When he got back into the pits the Club manager sacked him on the spot. Told him to f..k off and don’t try collect his pay before leaving the city. Rest of team knew then that 2 minute clock meant 2 minutes. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Fair play to them for realising that the rule wss impractical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Good decision, so embarrasing that rules are rescinded though ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Why don't they trial these things before rushing them through? Glad the rule has gone as it was daft but as Trees says it's embarrassing to have to do a U turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 48 minutes ago, mrss said: Riders have messed about at the start gate ever since I have watched speedway. The referees are the ones to blame for letting it happen. Refs are to lenient and weak to exclude people. In the end the paying public miss out then when a rider is excluded leave it as it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) I totally agree with all the above, and very unfair on the smaller statuared riders. I was talking to little Norman Strachan last week about this subject, he is smaller than all the present riders, and even he was suprised this was brought in. Good on the powers that be to see a little sense. Edited March 27, 2018 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Excellent decision. The only decision it was introduced was to pander to a small minority of vociferous buffoons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Steve0 said: Makes perfect sense - it clearly was not a very well considered amendment for this season. 2 minute clocks are what should have been implemented! Exactly, that's ALL that is required. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Why don't they trial these things before rushing them through? Glad the rule has gone as it was daft but as Trees says it's embarrassing to have to do a U turn. No need really to trial anything... They already have the control mechanic to reduce any drawn out evenings. . It's called the putting the riders on '2 minutes'!! They just need to bloody use it properly!! Put everyone on two minutes after say two minutes of the previous race finishing.. I would also add that if there is an unsatisfactory start then absolutely no pit gates open and the riders come back round straight away, meaning the bike you started the race on is the one you start the re-run on.... No faffing around adjusting clutches or indeed any other mechanical adjustments that get disovered by the 'false start'. (And surely fuel isn't required just by doing a false start)? Call the 2 minutes, and if the race hasnt already started by the time the full 2 minutes have expired, send the tapes up the moment 120 seconds have past and start the race, riders ready or not. (Excluding them will just delay meetings further whilst decisions get made as who will race in the re-run/riders go back to the pits gate to 'faff' with their bikes).. It will take a fortnight or so I reckon to embed the consistent use of what already exists, but isn't used anyway near effectively enough currently.. Edited March 27, 2018 by mikebv 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 41 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Why don't they trial these things before rushing them through? Glad the rule has gone as it was daft but as Trees says it's embarrassing to have to do a U turn. Dont see any need to trial this one. Copypaste it from the FIM rulebook and it would have worked a treat. After 2 mins youre either ready to start or you are out. After which another 2 mins start for either a reserve or 15 m back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, mikebv said: No need really to trial anything... They already have the control mechanic to reduce any drawn out evenings. . It's called the putting the riders on '2 minutes'!! They just need to bloody use it properly!! Put everyone on two minutes after say two minutes of the previous race finishing.. I would also add that if there is an unsatisfactory start then absolutely no pit gates open and the riders come back round straight away, meaning the bike you started the race on is the one you start the re-run on.... No faffing around adjusting clutches or indeed any other mechanical adjustments that get disovered by the 'false start'... Call the 2 minutes, and if the race hasnt already started by the time the full 2 minutes have expired send the tapes up the second 120 seconds have past and start the race.. It will take a fortnight or so I reckon to embed the consistent use of what already exists, but isn't used effectively enough currently.. I agree with most of this, especially the unsatifactory start, no pit gates should be opened. If they are then that said rider/s are put back on 2 minutes.. If they are not at tapes within that fresh 2 minutes they are excluded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Good ride by Fricke although to be fair he should be beating them even off 15 metres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 1 hour ago, f-s-p said: Dont see any need to trial this one. Copypaste it from the FIM rulebook and it would have worked a treat. After 2 mins youre either ready to start or you are out. After which another 2 mins start for either a reserve or 15 m back. Absolutely, couldn't agree more but it was a general point.....don't bring a rule in without trialling it in some form first. As other sports do. It's asking for trouble if not, and risks making the decision makers look silly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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