BurntFaceMan Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 The only people who prefer bibs to team suits are the dinosaurs of the sport. Frankly the dinosaurs have done enough damage. If we want this to be a professional sport then we need to start acting professionally. Unfortunately many of the promoters have resigned themselves to trying to please the old folks and have practically given up on fresh blood. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Team suits are annoying from a fan's point of view but a must for a pro look! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stainlesssteelride Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) I'm a fan and don't find them annoying in the slightest. One of the best things ever to happen in team speedway. Matt Ford is just being his normal self, and only looking after himself. Edited March 12, 2018 by Stainlesssteelride 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 A big yes to team race suits from me.I support the Belle vue aces with a passion and I like the club I support to look like a team.Just like any other team sport I can think of. Like most supporters of any team in any sport the teams colours and logo are a big part of sport.Seeing my team dressed in red white and black with a big ace of clubs on their chest gives me a buzz even before the 1st race begins. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 British Speedway is everything but professional and clubs going back to bibs proves that point even further. British Speedway shouldn't be and is not taken seriously by anyone outside the sport. British Speedway is just the equivalent to WWE but just less funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, poolebolton said: If it’s team suits or better riders then no question better riders. Ford hasn’t got team suits in protest to the BT deal because it’s perhaps the worst deal in history and worth jack all. Non poole fans would you rather a decent WR track or poole in teamsuits? I know what I want. I don't mind bibs myself,but I agree team suits gives off a better image. So because Ford don't like the TV deal,he's doing the bib thing as a protest...Not sure about that one.If it is correct I guess "It's in the interest of the sport" and not Matt Ford Edited March 12, 2018 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: I don't mind bibs myself,but I agree it is does give off a better image. So because Ford don't like the TV deal,he's doing to bib thing as a protest...Not sure about that one.If it is correct I guess "It's in the interest of the sport" and not Matt Ford. If we are talking TV let's go a stage further. It is very difficult to tell one home rider from another (and away rider) by helmet colour alone especially on TV. If each rider had a lycra* (or similar) top that fits over kevlars, said top could still have all the team sponsors, and individual ones on. The kevlars underneath could be to the riders own design and worn abroad or in individual meetings. Such tops would be far cheaper to replace when riders are sacked or signed mid season. Riders in blue obviously have tops with blue as the base colour, Riders in red have a red base etc. *The tops must be tailored or stretch and not baggy flappy things. I agree with all the comments about baggy tops/bibs etc not being professional but surely a top that fits and looks smart to go over kevlars is not impossible to achieve. Edited March 12, 2018 by Star Lady 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Once a rider has got a helmet & goggles on & is on a bike, can you actually tell who it is? Individual kevlars identify the rider through their own sponsors as well as on the bike covers. I do agree with Star Lady in that a stretch waistcoat type top with club colours, emblem & sponsors would be a better & cheaper option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Wolves used bibs along with race suits until only a few years ago when switching to solely race suits. Race suits look a hell of a lot better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fubar Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Anybody know how much these race suits cost? I am sure that for the top tier clubs that appear on the goggle box, then for the sake of a professional appearance then the cost can be justified. Assuming that they cost around a couple of hundred quid each then for a NL side suits are surely a no goer since £1500 is a big chunk of the budget to blow on an unnecessary vanity item. Personally, I like riders showing a bit of individuality and also promoting their own sponsors a bit. Fringes on the sleeves of leather race suits always looked pretty trick, don't you think? If you go too far down the corporate avenue, then all the riders will be dressed identically and referring to each other as colleagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWP Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 See Lynn are going with team kevlars, as NKI just posted Instagram video of it in the pits in Torun. Don’t know if this was on purpose or accidental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fubar Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 It is being suggested that these suits can cost around £1000. If that's the case, I'm not sure that any level of British speedway should be frittering their money or more accurately, their customers' money, on such unnecessary items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, fubar said: It is being suggested that these suits can cost around £1000. If that's the case, I'm not sure that any level of British speedway should be frittering their money or more accurately, their customers' money, on such unnecessary items. They can - they can also be a lot more.... however they can also be purchased for around £650. So to start throwing figures around that Poole spent £2,000 on suits for certain riders last year is idiotic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 I'm pretty sure that figure is a big liberal so take it with a pinch of salt. If it is so easy to get a big sponsor for these race suits, don't you think the clubs havent tried? The club's where I help have till they are blue in the face but 7000 is a big lay out for little or no return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longlivefrankie Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Why not both? A classic race jacket ( eg belle vue with no advertising on) over team Kevlars with sponsors logos on ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWP Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, fubar said: It is being suggested that these suits can cost around £1000. If that's the case, I'm not sure that any level of British speedway should be frittering their money or more accurately, their customers' money, on such unnecessary items. What should riders wear then, jeans and T shirts. You come off a speedway bike and as your arse is torn off, you can be thinking “I’m glad Club didn’t fritter any money away on my protection “ Its a professional sport, so Club should supply each rider with a good quality Kevlar team suit. Riders have to supply all other equipment, bikes, helmets, under protection etc. Certain Hamilton doesn’t supply his own F1 car, fire suit etc. Rooney doesn’t buy his own football shirt and has to bring a ball to play with. Ok some will say there isn’t the same money in speedway as F1 / football. There isn’t I agree, but is the sport professional or not. If a Club can’t afford this, well they shouldn’t be running as a professional speedway club and if all can’t afford it, British speedway should be an amateur sport and let the Poles, Swedes and Danes run professional speedway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, DWP said: See Lynn are going with team kevlars, as NKI just posted Instagram video of it in the pits in Torun. Don’t know if this was on purpose or accidental. Believe that post has been removed quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWP Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Ha ha! Still there as of now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) 39 minutes ago, DWP said: What should riders wear then, jeans and T shirts. You come off a speedway bike and as your arse is torn off, you can be thinking “I’m glad Club didn’t fritter any money away on my protection “ Its a professional sport, so Club should supply each rider with a good quality Kevlar team suit. Riders have to supply all other equipment, bikes, helmets, under protection etc. Certain Hamilton doesn’t supply his own F1 car, fire suit etc. Rooney doesn’t buy his own football shirt and has to bring a ball to play with. Ok some will say there isn’t the same money in speedway as F1 / football. There isn’t I agree, but is the sport professional or not. If a Club can’t afford this, well they shouldn’t be running as a professional speedway club and if all can’t afford it, British speedway should be an amateur sport and let the Poles, Swedes and Danes run professional speedway. Swedes don't have team race suits and I don't see them being criticised. Even some countries didn't have team suits in the old WTC. Edited March 12, 2018 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 3 hours ago, IronScorpion said: Once a rider has got a helmet & goggles on & is on a bike, can you actually tell who it is? Individual kevlars identify the rider through their own sponsors as well as on the bike covers. I do agree with Star Lady in that a stretch waistcoat type top with club colours, emblem & sponsors would be a better & cheaper option. That's what I meant about being a pain for the fans, of course some riders' styles are immediately recognisable, at least their bikes are individual.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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