Kim Nilsson owed a few bob

[The Voice Of Reason]

6 hours ago, diamond@heart said:

Should get the baliffs from Can't Pay We'll Take it Away, they nearly always get the cash!!!

Not quite sure what price dilapidated airbags and knackered wooden fences would fetch.

[westhamboy66]

There it was on page 3 of the Speedway Star. I simply cannot believe the attitude of Lakesides Promotion and how they have the front to move up from the NL still owing money to the rider. Whether or not he is a soft touch is of no consequence the promotion are a despicable pair. They more than anyone know the risks riders face since they lost their Captain and the big bills that could follow up a couple of engine blow ups etc. For JC to say he had no idea is laughable. So much for the BSPA taking money from clubs when a new promotion join to cover such eventualities. You couldn’t make it up. 

[The Voice Of Reason]

If I can just correct one point Westhamboy66.

Lakeside have not 'moved up' from the National League to the Premiership. In the words of Lakeside's website, it was 'a promotion'. 

On another point, I wonder if Lakeside will actually run all of their scheduled meetings this year? That possibly hinges on whether their riders get paid.

Edited March 15, 2018 by The Voice Of Reason

[westhamboy66]

I stand corrected 

[griffo]

On ‎10‎/‎03‎/‎2018 at 4:51 PM, griffo said:

The Captains of Both Teams still have to sign that they have all been paid whilst they have ridden for their own Team  or unpaid by other teams when they have been riding away  or in Individuals

I believe that the  Rider that is owed should tell his Captain  where he is Owed  From and when but in my Experience over many Years is that they don`t and some times there is nothing done about it I recall one Rider putting down every single week the details of the Money owed where from and what Date you could have made a Rubber Stamp it went on that long so I don`t know who supposed to look into the non Payment System.

[The Voice Of Reason]

42 minutes ago, griffo said:

I believe that the  Rider that is owed should tell his Captain  where he is Owed  From and when but in my Experience over many Years is that they don`t and some times there is nothing done about it I recall one Rider putting down every single week the details of the Money owed where from and what Date you could have made a Rubber Stamp it went on that long so I don`t know who supposed to look into the non Payment System.

The form goes to the meeting ref; and should be sent along with the Machine Examiner checks, meeting scorecard, etc. to the SCB.

It no doubt then sits on someones desk in Rugby, before ending up in the shredder or paper recycling.

Not quite sure how Jon Cook was apparently unaware of this 5 Grand underpayment. Are we honestly to believe that Kim Nilsson wasn't chasing this payment at anytime during the past two years?

[Blackadder]

Kim has said that some details were written on Meeting Certificates. When the SCB receive their copies, steps should be taken to progress the rider's comments. The rider should then be kept informed, not left in the dark.

[Vince]

The only time Sam was ever owed money it was only a small amount for a CL guest booking and I was told by everybody to just forget about it as it would cause him problems. Everybody except Tim Stone who said chase it up, I tried to contact the promoter several times with no luck so wrote to the SCB saying that it was a matter of principal and I would put it through the small claims court if I hadn't received the money in 30 days. Cheque in the post within the week!

I do think riders don't chase money as they should because they fear that word will get around and they won't get rides in future. I would suggest the only promoters who wouldn't employ a rider because he asked for his due money wouldn't be worth riding for anyway. On the other hand you have riders who will sign for clubs who are known to pay late for extra points money over those who do pay on the nail, makes no sense to me but it happens. It is interesting that the promoters who are accused of being too tight with their money by the fans are often the ones who settle the wage bill.

[woofers]

On 15/03/2018 at 1:24 PM, Najjer said:

I'm not sure what's worse... Owing someone £5,000 from 18 months ago, or not knowing anything about it!

Particularly as both are the sole shareholders of the company.

Wouldn't you ask "What's this £93,485 we owe to Other Creditors then?"

[SPEEDY69]

Thing is, we only have one side of the story here - post above says "some details were written on meeting certificates", which doesn't appear to be conclusive that both parties agree there's a debt.

Disputes over what riders think they're owed and what promoters think they are due are quite common.  This can be down to the fact that not everything is in writing or that funding may be coming from another source.

Edited March 20, 2018 by SPEEDY69

[Lord Skid]

Problem is there is the Official amount, then there is the personal unofficial contract, the amounts are vastly different, and the BSPA/SCB are only interested in the official contract, which is just basic money, the rest you can go sing for.

[montie]

2 hours ago, Lord Skid said:

Problem is there is the Official amount, then there is the personal unofficial contract, the amounts are vastly different, and the BSPA/SCB are only interested in the official contract, which is just basic money, the rest you can go sing for.

which to be fair is correct,any official body can only be interested in an official contract,any thin classed as unofficial should be nothing to the with an Official body

[Garry1603]

That's a disgraceful situation if it's true. These riders put their necks on the line (literally) and chasing payment should be the last thing that they have to think of.

I think that a few promoters need to look at themselves in the mirror.

 

[Lord Skid]

They do, and the reflection is also wearing a BSPA blazer.