mickthemuppet Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 I can remember a few seasons back when Ipswich went to another prominent club and had not been paid for their previous match away there a months previously . So sometimes it is not the fault of the promoters because they have not been paid either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 hours ago, adonis said: self employed is a job where you don't get paid , working for Carrillion is another , being a woman who should have retired at 60 but has had an extra 6 years of work added at the last minute , maybe you could ask one of those people how they pay their bills  how does this add to the debate? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 10 hours ago, MARK246 said: The problem Peter Nahlin had was, after not riding in the night in question, he was banned for 28 days by the BSPA for withholding his services. Which prevented him earning money for the rest of the season In which case riders should consult a solicitor, this just isn’t on and it’s only the fact that it’s not being tested that the BSPA keep getting away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 hours ago, stevehone said: there would be a lot of riders not riding Legal action, Scott Nicholls knows a good one I am told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: Legal action, Scott Nicholls knows a good one I am told. He has them on speed dial... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) I remember Terry Lindon (Promoter at Berwick) doing a runner owing Kelvin Tatum thousands. Edited March 11, 2018 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 42 minutes ago, steve roberts said: I remember Terry Linton (Promoter at Berwick) doing a runner owing Kelvin Tatum thousands. Eventually the law pinned something on the serial dodgy dealer.. https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/invaro-collapse-businessman-terry-lindon-3349013 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 14 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: It would only have to happen once.....that would sort it for the future Inclined to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 15 hours ago, griffo said: The Captains of Both Teams still have to sign that they have all been paid whilst they have ridden for their own Team or unpaid by other teams when they have been riding away or in Individuals I am aware of captains that have week after week noted on the document details of unpaid riders only for very little if anything to be done about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 I bet he's far from the only one. Wonder if any other riders would care to comment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 2 hours ago, adonis said: If you can't see that , there would be no point trying to explain Carillion went out of business - Lakeside haven't. I do take your point but doubt its relevance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 8 hours ago, steve roberts said: I remember Terry Lindon (Promoter at Berwick) doing a runner owing Kelvin Tatum thousands. I think its safe to say that there was more than Kelvin Tatum that was owed money by former club owner Lindon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 1 hour ago, screm said: I think its safe to say that there was more than Kelvin Tatum that was owed money by former club owner Lindon. ...yes I seem to remember that both Jimmy Nilsen and Richard Knight were owed money as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofers Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Unfortunately the accounts for Lakeside Hammers are not very positive and make sorry reading. Losses of £16,670 during 2015 and £71,461 in 2016. Amounts owing to creditors up from £49,988 at 31.12.15 to £93,485 at 31.12.16 Net worth £88,031 negative at December 2016 Let's hope that last year was able to make a positive contribution and make some inroads into this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 On ‎10‎/‎03‎/‎2018 at 9:28 AM, OveFundinFan said: I am sure it was the case at Belle Vue in the sixties (at least) that after the meeting the riders went to the office which was under and at the back of the grandstand and received there earnings. Its easy to calculate what someone has earned during a meeting, especially now with computers. Cash may not be the wisest now but money transfers are no problem. I remember the Tim Stone days at Newport where he used to come into the bar after the meeting to give the riders a brown envelope.  He always looked even angrier than usual after a big home win... which wasn't often in fairness! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westlakejawa Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 But fair play to Tim he was always there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Shouldn't there be a proper, official, investigation into Kim's claims Surely the SCB and/or the ACU should get involved It needs stamping out Would be interested to know whether Philip Rising's magazine would care to take the lead on this It is, after all, speedway news, and that's what Speedway Star is there to report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 So? Â Needs sorting, houses put in order, miscreants dealt with, victims satisfied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 hours ago, adonis said: and when the investigation is over , maybe they could find time to investigate all the riders that owe suppliers money , that will have to be second on the list though because it's a far bigger job Pay the riders what they're owed, maybe they can then pay their suppliers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 20 hours ago, woofers said: Unfortunately the accounts for Lakeside Hammers are not very positive and make sorry reading. Losses of £16,670 during 2015 and £71,461 in 2016. Amounts owing to creditors up from £49,988 at 31.12.15 to £93,485 at 31.12.16 Net worth £88,031 negative at December 2016 Let's hope that last year was able to make a positive contribution and make some inroads into this. Last year almost certainly made the financial position worse which led to the sale of Adam and Zach to Swindon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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