ray c Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, Starboy118 said: Chris Holder should manage to increase his carefully manufactured 2017 average! chris holder will improve his average but he wont improve as a rider ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 11 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Fricke is capable of adding a point, as is Bewley. Pieszczek and Newman if he stays injury clear wil up their averages. Kurtz, Woryna and especially Chris Holder will improve, as will Szczepaniak and Shanes. (And the reason Poole are favourites) KK should up his by a point if he has his head in the right place. Jake Allen for Somerset and Adam Ellis for Swindon should both improve. Not sure about Wajtknecht but we shall see. If you're thinking about riders who can add a point or so on their average, I would imagine the list would be quite long. If we are talking about the rider who average will improve the most then Woryna is way ahead of the rest. I hope he doubles his score, then probably it will open the BSPA eyes and see the pathetic situation they have created by using out of date CMA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 13 hours ago, DC2 said: David Bellego. Despite achieving 7.37, everyone rubbishes him like he’s 4.37, so he’ll put on about 3 points. He won't improve his average this year maybe drop a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 35 minutes ago, g13webb said: If you're thinking about riders who can add a point or so on their average, I would imagine the list would be quite long. If we are talking about the rider who average will improve the most then Woryna is way ahead of the rest. I hope he doubles his score, then probably it will open the BSPA eyes and see the pathetic situation they have created by using out of date CMA He could well do that i think Woryna will will average between 7. - 8.20) and on this instance i don't think Poole have done anything wrong and fair play to Ford for being a step ahead everybody else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 9 hours ago, ray c said: chris holder will improve his average but he wont improve as a rider ? If he improves his average which i think he will, he will have improved as a rider. I wouldnt want you as a team manager... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 59 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: He could well do that i think Woryna will will average between 7. - 8.20) and on this instance i don't think Poole have done anything wrong and fair play to Ford for being a step ahead everybody else. Well I also don’t understand how People can be angry about Szczepaniak. He is on loan from Kings Lynn so Buster knew about the deal and didn’t stop it!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 45 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: If he improves his average which i think he will, he will have improved as a rider. I wouldnt want you as a team manager... How do you improve as a rider when you already been world champion ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 For the millionth time people are fed up with the system, not the team(s) taking advantage of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, poolebolton said: Well I also don’t understand how People can be angry about Szczepaniak. He is on loan from Kings Lynn so Buster knew about the deal and didn’t stop it!! I think you are missing the point. Chapman is part of the problem in allowing riders to return on outdated averages. This isn't a Poole problem it's a UK Speedway problem. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, ray c said: How do you improve as a rider when you already been world champion ? Ray, Chris has been through a lot since he was world champ. No, you cannot take that away from him, but he now needs to recapture the sort of form that made him world champ, and if/ no, when he raises his average this season it will be deemed as an improvement. Chris needs to enjoy his racing again, there is no presure on him whatsoever from the club, he just needs to go out and do what he does best. a fit and focused Chris Holder would still top the championship standings and put a big hole and give these young upstarts a run for there money in the GP's. Form is temparary class is permanant.. Edited March 5, 2018 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABS Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 I'm biased, I know, but for me it will be Dan Bewley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 hours ago, foreverblue said: He won't improve his average this year maybe drop a little Hmmmm I can see Bellego finishing higher in the averages than three of Poole’s top five. Woryna, Grajkzonek and Sundstrom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: For the millionth time people are fed up with the system, not the team(s) taking advantage of it. Keeps falling on deaf ears 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Starman2006 said: Ray, Chris has been through a lot since he was world champ. No, you cannot take that away from him, but he now needs to recapture the sort of form that made him world champ, and if/ no, when he raises his average this season it will be deemed as an improvement. Chris needs to enjoy his racing again, there is no presure on him whatsoever from the club, he just needs to go out and do what he does best. a fit and focused Chris Holder would still top the championship standings and put a big hole and give these young upstarts a run for there money in the GP's. Form is temparary class is permanant.. What Holder needs to and does do are 2 different things, the injuries he received at Coventry seemed to mentally affect his riding, then the dreadful accident to his best pal seemed to amplify this. Does C Holder have the ability.............YES......Does C Holder have the mental ability..................we will have to wait and see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 The only way that We the fans can get any fairness from this topic, is to agree an average for Poole's 2 Poles, say both on a 6 or 7 point average and not the silly low average they have been allowed on. On that basis I would expect Dan Bewley,J Shanes M Fricke, Zach from Swindon, Jake Allen,Jack Holder and Cameron Heaps, there are others but only if their away form drastically improves ie R Tungate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Bagpuss said: For the millionth time people are fed up with the system, not the team(s) taking advantage of it. Precisely. At least it is a level playing field for all teams. I am simply exacerbated that Swindon didn't utilise this, especially after winning the league with a ringer last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Starman2006 said: Ray, Chris has been through a lot since he was world champ. No, you cannot take that away from him, but he now needs to recapture the sort of form that made him world champ, and if/ no, when he raises his average this season it will be deemed as an improvement. Chris needs to enjoy his racing again, there is no presure on him whatsoever from the club, he just needs to go out and do what he does best. a fit and focused Chris Holder would still top the championship standings and put a big hole and give these young upstarts a run for there money in the GP's. Form is temparary class is permanant.. I hear what you are saying but at some point all riders go on the downgrade. He is 31 this year , doesnt mean he cant get back to his best but i think those days are gone. He will average around 8 and do well to make top 10 in the gp's World class rider....yes As good as he was..........not in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Starman2006 said: Chris needs to enjoy his racing again, there is no presure on him whatsoever from the club, he just needs to go out and do what he does best. a fit and focused Chris Holder would still top the championship standings and put a big hole and give these young upstarts a run for there money in the GP's. Form is temparary class is permanant.. I think the management will put plenty of pressure on the riders. They have been signed to perform and not just turn up and ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starboy118 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, hyderd said: Keeps falling on deaf ears Pardon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 Drodz, Allen & Davey who i think will surprise plenty this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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