steve roberts Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 1 hour ago, moxey63 said: Would that keep away a casual observer in front of his Tv who liked the racing? Some of the football matches I watch on TV have 30,000 in the crowd and it can be deathly quiet. I understand your point though... used to love Wolves coming to Belle Vue in the mid-90s, they brought with them loads of fans and helped whip up some life into the Belle Vue fans. Proper atmosphere. ...used to get great atmospheres when the likes of Swindon, Reading, Coventry & Cradley visited Cowley but even in my time following 'The Cheetahs' travelling support was diminishing and local derbies no longer guaranteed a good all round feel as they once did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 1 hour ago, steve roberts said: ...but not 'blindingly obvious' to those running the sport evidently! Is that really surprising? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 2 hours ago, moxey63 said: Would that keep away a casual observer in front of his Tv who liked the racing? Not all, but it would some. The sheep factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 19 hours ago, moxey63 said: Was it the green helmet, double points, six-lap nominated heats, riders on handicaps and going for double-points, that mole thingy Sky used to sort of mock us all (just remembered that), getting rid of Suzi Perry, then Sophie Blake? Seriously though, racing has been decent standard. But in Speedway, it isn't always about racing. ...I'd agree regarding "it isn't always about racing" as I used to enjoy having a good chat with those around me but when those people began to noticeably diminish over a period of a few years (for many reasons) the attraction began to wear a bit thin and it was left to just a few to add some bite to proceedings. In fact the racing sometimes became very much secondary on occasions! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 Steve, as well as that I had to start paying to get in (ah ah). I often think what many would feel are minor changes - the change in bikes, handlebars, rider styles, race jackets and ditching leathers have made speedway, to me, not as arty as years ago. I only have to get a glimpse of an old photo and I realise, to me, speedway isn't the same sport when you look at modern pictures. I am living in the past. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, moxey63 said: Steve, as well as that I had to start paying to get in (ah ah). I often think what many would feel are minor changes - the change in bikes, handlebars, rider styles, race jackets and ditching leathers have made speedway, to me, not as arty as years ago. I only have to get a glimpse of an old photo and I realise, to me, speedway isn't the same sport when you look at modern pictures. I am living in the past. And still in denial and lying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, Tsunami said: And still in denial and lying. Two words - Mike Ashley! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, moxey63 said: Two words - Mike Ashley! ....and ???? incidently, I've also two words for you and your lying and deceit on this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Tsunami said: ....and ???? incidently, I've also two words for you and your lying and deceit on this thread. Next. Still some way to catch up with Mike Ashley and the way he's had you toon lot! Smalltime club. Bring King Kev back, I say. I'd love it! Edited February 25, 2018 by moxey63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, moxey63 said: Next. Think you had better move on before you make a bigger fool of yourself, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tsunami said: Think you had better move on before you make a bigger fool of yourself, Please don't say anything on keyboard you wouldn't say to someone's face. I am not a liar. You've been had by Mike Ashley, alright, but please don't let it judge your fellow man like it has. Let's be friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukiedesmo Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 This isn't looking good. No update from Flagrag in the week since the concerns over a lack of an announcement were raised or from Phil who was puzzled why it hadn't already happened. As Flagrag said, BT's recent announcement of the continuation of Moto GP would have been the ideal time to announce a continuation of Speedway coverage and reinforce BT as the home of two wheeled sport' but sadly nothing. Is there anything you gents can share with us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 If I were to watch a match that was live on TV, I'd record it and then watch it afterwards, I'd fast-forward the gaps between the races which are only there for filling time. I'd watch the races and not much else. It is like most things now - record, watch later, cut out the ads etc. So, isn't it just as good to give whichever TV company is interested a one-hour highlights' package? I am sure there are enough avenues to do this, all the companies that cover meetings at tracks for small profit every week and are good enough standard and picture quality to show on TV for, after all, mainly speedway fans? They often show these companies' footage during live meetings don't they? Buy a speedway meeting on DVD and you get all the action within the hour, no boring experts telling us what they think will happen or what we've just seen happen during 10 minutes before the next heat, and then for another 10 minutes after the next one. Live Tv has been done. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 hours ago, moxey63 said: If I were to watch a match that was live on TV, I'd record it and then watch it afterwards, I'd fast-forward the gaps between the races which are only there for filling time. I'd watch the races and not much else. It is like most things now - record, watch later, cut out the ads etc. So, isn't it just as good to give whichever TV company is interested a one-hour highlights' package? I am sure there are enough avenues to do this, all the companies that cover meetings at tracks for small profit every week and are good enough standard and picture quality to show on TV for, after all, mainly speedway fans? They often show these companies' footage during live meetings don't they? Buy a speedway meeting on DVD and you get all the action within the hour, no boring experts telling us what they think will happen or what we've just seen happen during 10 minutes before the next heat, and then for another 10 minutes after the next one. Live Tv has been done. ...couldn't agree more. Too much waffle, over analysis, repeated action that it becomes tedious! The great Kenneth "They think it's all over..." Wolstensholme was quoted as saying same about football on TV. ...await the usual suspects! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 The argument for live TV surely gets defeated. A prospective new fan surely won't be that interested to sit through all the pointless waffle and still be tuned for the next race. A highlights package, like the olden days of World Of Sport, shows one race after another. Kids of today don't want to be sat there listening to chitter-chatter. It's action they want. Never mind kids, an old-fogey like me would prefer race after race. I used to sit through all the padding SKY gave us during 15 races crammed into over three hours, but I wouldn't like to do it now. It is pointless. Indeed, transferring my old videos over to dvd, I cut out all the studio stuff. The importing thing is racing, a glance in the pits now and again, at the terraces (if you can find a fan). A live meeting is like watching the two years it takes to make a feature film... you can see it all in usually 90 minutes if you wait for the full edit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 TELEVISION companies want live sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: TELEVISION companies want live sport Whilst that is true the BBC still have excellent viewing figures for 'Match Of The Day'. Speedway would benefit massively with a similar format on a free channel or online. I would bet anyone that an highlights package would get far more viewers than any live meeting on free to air channel than a paying Sports network. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: TELEVISION companies want live sport .. but, it seems, not live speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 TV companies, according to Philip Rising, want live sport. So why the heavy-footedness from these companies to do a deal with speedway? Is it purely that BT, as they did last year, really don't want to get involved until live sport is thin on the ground? This year, though, they might be a bit hesitant because they may have the World Cup to fall back on. Speedway could be looked at as being a sport that is there, but only when there's nowt else to screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 21 hours ago, moxey63 said: TV companies, according to Philip Rising, want live sport. So why the heavy-footedness from these companies to do a deal with speedway? Is it purely that BT, as they did last year, really don't want to get involved until live sport is thin on the ground? This year, though, they might be a bit hesitant because they may have the World Cup to fall back on. Speedway could be looked at as being a sport that is there, but only when there's nowt else to screen. IT isn't BT that are holding up proceedings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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